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I think you nailed it, and right now all I can think of, is Advevo had more insight, then anybody including myself ever gave him credit for.
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08-28-2010, 11:38 PM | #47 |
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Scott didn't say no DCT option. He said no M-DCT option due to time-constraint. There may still be a DCT option. Just not an M-DCT option.
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08-29-2010, 12:13 AM | #48 | |
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DCT would make it look more pricey, but I think this is a secondary issue. |
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08-29-2010, 12:21 AM | #50 |
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We can only speculate.
It could be many things, like it is a tuned N54, and they have less data-logging on that combo, so they will not be ready before the car comes to market. Last edited by ORIGIN M.; 08-29-2010 at 12:58 AM.. |
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08-29-2010, 01:20 AM | #51 |
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Shame about auto. I would have liked the choice but was 99% set on manual despite M25 traffic here in London.
Thing I have to ask is why are you sitting in a car for 4-5 hours on a regular basis. Is public transport that bad over there? I think I too would be biased to auto if that were the case here |
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08-29-2010, 01:27 AM | #52 |
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Great cars like Zonda, F1 come only with MT
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08-29-2010, 01:37 AM | #55 |
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only in drag race...where it will shift faster for you and it will not loose the boost when it shift up.
In a lap race manual gives you more control on corners if you knew what to do.."According to M. Schumacher when he was reviewing the F-40" Also cars with MT at Nuremberg are usually faster than PDK or DCT.
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08-29-2010, 02:17 AM | #56 |
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No dct option means one thing: this car is really what it should be in terms of ability and they need to ringfence M3 sales. Great! Cheaper too!
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Like someone else mentioned on this topic...man up! Really its a 1m, you dont get the dct to help you in a traffic! If this is an issue by a beater to commute back and forth to work. As far as im concerned, in the sports car world a true sports car is (manual) not tap into gear and it goes my girlfriend can do that p,r,d,ds,m please...learn how to drive the car the real way the "m" way.
The first true orginal sports cars came in manual. All the first m's for BMW were manual so whats the problem?....learn how to drive then buy one. Until then bmw can really careless about the lazy american "benz" style drivers not having there automatic, this is what sets bmw apart from anyone else they make there cars the real european way. Bmw is just making it harder for the clowns to get into the m's...as far as im concerned. Your talking about bmw's (auto guys) maybe you should check out acura tl's its right up your alley. I heard they have some specials also.
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Hey Guys. Been watching from the Sidelines for a while!! Great site.
Unfortunately, the NO DCT news is extremely disappointing! If this is true I WILL CANCEL MY ORDER and refund deposit! I've owned many cars over the years from S2000, WRXs to Audi R8's and 2 M3s. I spend at least one weekend a month club racing. The 1M was going to be my club racer. BMW has been promoting it as such, time and time again. However, they NOW decide that Club Racers don't need DCT and the M in motorsport is for Manual only. Well, let's be honest, when they released the first SMG M3 many years ago the marketing pitch was "SMG = Best for Track" Blah Blah Blah Now with the 1M they decide a "Club Racer" doesn't warrant an Sequential gearbox. Just goes to show BMW really don't care about their market. They will change their argument and marketing to suit. It's all about the $$$. The poll above shows that about 20-30% of the users of this site will cancel their order if there is NO DCT. I suspect this proportion will be even higher out there in the "NON ENTHUSIAST" market. So, if BMW are happy to lose 30-50% off the initial orders, then good for them! NO DCT mean's I'm out. The 1M could have been AWESOME. But, now it seems it's just a rush job and they are taking some shortcuts. Sad. |
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Funny how most of the people on this forum try to compensate for their lacking in other areas of life with this "real men drive manuals" mentality.
I live in NYC, why would i want a manual as my DD |
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08-29-2010, 04:59 AM | #61 | |
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I can understand those wanting DCT to shave a few tenths of a seconds and that it's a better technology. But for those wanting it because of traffic? C'mon! Why are you in an M? If you're afraid to be seen in a cheap DD, you're compensating for your lack in other areas.
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Either way, I'll be taking my FJ down to the OBX next weekend from Baltimore by way of the Delaware Outlets (wife needs some tax free shopping) and I'm not worried about stop and go traffic. The 1's clutch is a cakewalk compared to my FJs.
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These comment, about why people choose what they choose, like any of you have a clue as to why. -- And, why you even care?
This is about there being a choice, not about anything else. I would not be caught dead or alive in, is a cheap car. I value my life, more than I care what others think. |
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OK for you if you have somewhere to put a snotter DD..... Not all of us live in a part of the world where we have the luxury of having loads of space for more than one car, or can afford more than one car. My best friend emigrated from the UK to California nearly ten years ago, and he can insure and run three cars and a motorbike for less than it costs me to insure and run ONE car here in London where space for one car is at a premium. I was hoping a 1M with ///DCT and competition package was going to be my holy grail car that would fullfill my weekend track use fun, and yet still work as a daily car. BMW would rather build a pointless cabrio version though it seems |
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You still haven't explained how a car is useless for daily driving unless it has a dual clutch transmission..?
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