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01-15-2021, 05:40 PM | #45 |
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Is negative 2 degree camber to much for the street? I understand camber, but not caster and toe setting. Again, I need to learn that stuff, so I can understand how alignment work
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01-15-2021, 06:24 PM | #46 |
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Yes, -2 degrees is too much camber for the street. I have built track cars that perform well with under -2 degrees of camber.
Couple things to note....the Macpherson strut front suspension will have very little camber gain as the suspension compresses in a corner, so you usually want a larger static camber setting if you are tracking. A car like a Miata with a double wishbone front suspension can get away will little camber statically, as it gains camber in the corner as the suspension compresses. Think of camber as setting the contact patch of the tire, caster as the tendency to self align, and toe as the amount the tire scrubs. |
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So many things can contribute to steering feel. I don't know about the condition of your tires, but tires with uneven wear can create horrible steering feel. Once you upgrade your suspension and get an alignment, I'd be very surprised if you still preferred the feel of the 328.
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Also, I found that e46 ZHP and even regular 330s have 13.7 ratio. I wonder if ZHP steering rack is possible to swap in vs m3 rack. I think this car with quicker steering would be phenomenal+ the suspension upgrades. I think it's a good platform, but I wonder if all the mods I'm planning of doing is worth the effort and money. I like the looks of the 1er and want to make it work. I definitely think this platform has a great potential, I just wonder if I'll be happy in the end. I don't much care for straight line speed, I'd rather have a phenomenal/neutral handling car that you have fun in regardless how fast you're going if that makes sense. Thank you all, that have replied and contributed to my noob questions! |
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No way you are getting decent track handling under 2 degrees. Need more like 3-3.5 degrees. Tracks like Daytona we run 4.5 degrees. |
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The "street cars capable of track days" that I set up with 2 degrees of camber or less were double wishbone front suspension, with very good camber gain curves (NA Miata and RX-8). That is why I was making note of the different suspension types. If you read my post again you can see that I am stating that toe wears tires, not camber. |
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Generally speaking, especially for strut suspensions: If you're driving miss daisy, -2* is overkill. If you're driving it like you stole it, -2* may not be enough.
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12-26-2021, 01:44 PM | #52 |
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Thank you all for all of your advice and knowledge! I was gonna sell the car but decided to keep it! I still haven't done anything to the car. But, when I'm ready, I'll make sure to keep coming back to this thread as there are a lot good info in here. I understand more about the suspension now and different brands/options that are available for our cars. My car needs a lot of work for it to be "fun". I remember my old 328i had a sport package and it was a lot more fun to drive than base 128i. Can't believe how much noticeable difference a sport package makes.
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12-27-2021, 04:16 PM | #53 |
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Well, I might get new suspension sooner than later. I just discovered/think I have a blown strut/shock on the passenger front side. That would make sense why my car is so bouncy and has too much body roll. When pressing down to the passenger side the shock/strut doesn't offer a lot of resistance and my car feels like a boat, too much bouncing! Might do the B12 kit if I can get it.
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01-09-2022, 11:54 PM | #54 |
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Highly recommend B12 kit , the eibach springs are a bit soft at the front and being progressive springs not linear imho so upgrade to a stiffer front arb to compensate, keeps it flatter in corners , less dive when fast cornering, better transitions - overall an improvement you can debate endlessly about stiffer arb vs stiffer springs / camber and grip ... ditch the run flats ASAP with a square 225 setup ps4 or similar and do poly rear subframe bushes- this will get you a decent neutral sweet handling machine, add trw m3 front control arms for added camber also
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01-16-2022, 02:59 PM | #55 |
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I actually had both a base model car and one with the sport package and there is a very noticeable difference. Mainly in being able to rotate the car which I'm guessing is due to the sport package including a rear sway bar, while the base model doesn't have one at all.
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Currently running BMWP springs and considering the Eibach front bar since the my spring rates are pretty close to those of the prokit (BMWP:160/420, Eibach: 148/456). I've also eyed the E93 M3 bar but that seems to be a mild upgrade and is almost twice the price. |
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06-19-2022, 09:40 PM | #58 |
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It's been a while, but I finally ordered Koni Street Pro kit. I'm intending on doing a review of that kit once I get it installed.
I think why I'm not satisfied with the handling of my car because my front passenger strut is blown. You can make that side bounce a lot just by pushing on the fender with your hand. I've been contemplating wether to keep or sell the car and I've decided on keeping it. My car doesn't even have 80k miles yet (although VERY close). Thanks to all that chipped in! And Happy Father's Day! |
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06-23-2022, 09:54 PM | #59 |
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Wow! I was re-reading this thread from the beginning and saw the error of my thinking. A lot of members gave me sound advice that I brushed off. My Koni Pro kit came in today and I'll be installing it in the next week or two. I'm currently gathering tools that I'll need to tackle this job. Once new shocks and struts are installed, I'll be ordering the M3 control arm kit for the front and eventually I'll buy rear M3 arms as well. Rear subframe bushings will be next. Then, sway bars depending how I feel the car handles.
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I just did front m3 Arms and whiteline 27mm bar. But honestly the rear subframe bushings were the biggest change in handling. I had low expectations i thought it was kind of just a thing everyone parrots here, but it absolutely made a difference and really makes your dampers work better. Konis are great dampers I have used them on many cars and always preferred them to bilsteins. Tons of shops will revalve them too.
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whiteline 2piece urethane bushings. i knew i wanted a 2 piece because i could install in my driveway in a few hours just lowering the subframe a tiny bit. versus dropping the subframe and having to re-bleed the brakes which have always been finicky on this car. removal was good they popped right out with the $90 ebay tool. no crazy methods or even any wd40, the tool fit perfect and tugged them out. it was very sketchy when my car fell of the jackstands and almost killed me. pro tip:chock your wheels real good
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