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07-26-2010, 04:30 PM | #92 |
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350hp versus 414hp i'm doing the math 64 hp defecit. Plus turbo lag and no oompf on the top end. Whom walked is a very bold statement especially on a track like the Nordschleife. The 1Mcoupe will be a little terror on the track but it won't walk an M3
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07-26-2010, 08:24 PM | #93 | |
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07-26-2010, 08:32 PM | #94 |
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Hey didn't your mom ever teach you if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything? Not sure what you are trying to prove coming over to a 1 series forum to demonstrate superiority of a M3. Or trying so hard to demonstrate so.
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07-27-2010, 02:16 AM | #95 |
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No she told me to speak whats on my mind freely and openly. I'm Not trying to state superiority! Just admiring another up and coming ///M car. The original debate was about the car needing to sound like an ///M car. The ///M division did not have enough lead time to devolop a FI motor from scratch so there still tweaking with the N54/55 variant. But I guess we will all find out in about 5-6 months what this little hot rod has under the hood an N54/55 variant or something fresh out of developtment from the ///m division. This would be the first ///M car to share powerplant with a series car if it doesn't get it's unique ///m powerplant.
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07-27-2010, 03:46 AM | #96 | |
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What you are saying, but in other words: "M3 GTS does not have a special M engine, is is just stroked, it makes less HP/l than M3 engine. You can get this done by Dinan, Noelle Motors or RD Sport, for less and with better figures." |
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07-27-2010, 06:21 AM | #98 |
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BMW M is not that stupid. They know that if the M1 engine is N54 or N55 and not S55, not a single M1 will be sold. And they know that all will look carefully at what was done to the engine, because it is the "first" FI M car. X6 M was first, but it is hard to tell how good the S63 engine is, because of the car itself. X6 is AWD, AUT and heavy. If the engine was just a tuned N54 they would not need so much of testing, as the first N54 was tested, it was tesed with over 400 HP, and the production car HP went down to 300 HP. That is why there are not many blown up 400 HP N54 engines. M1 engine will surely handle close to 500 HP.
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I said with a tune !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its going to 400 to the tire with a tune !!!
Says the guy who is going to get his M3 walked by a 1M with a tune in the 1/4 and on the track! Dont be all butt hurt cause your m3 is about to become old hat with the new 1M and the new M3 comming out . Boosted is where its at buddy unless its a dedicated road race car,face the facts. Oh and a real track car doesnt have 4 doors dude. You act all bmw pure well a real M3 only has two doors!!!!!! Last edited by mixxer; 07-27-2010 at 07:33 AM.. |
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4 doors is where it's at; same exact capabilities as a coupe big trunk 4 doors oh and it eats 135I's and 335 with tunes at the Nordschleife for breakfast,lunch and dinner. I'm not butt hurt! if the 1M coupe is a capable car with a rev happy top end I will consider it for a weekend toy to play with. but if it sticks with the N54/55 concept of running dead at 5500RPM and zero oomph at the top end I will save my pennies and get a GT3 Porsche.
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Sounds like you haven't narrowed your purchasing decision because its all over the map. I think you are shopping no frill, purebred sports car at economy pricing. Something that doesn't exist in real world unless its a pricing error, but if you do find it, let me know. |
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To enjoy the top end of a motor, you certainly don't need anything like an unrestricted autobahn. You notice it at redline shifts in every gear (not going too fast at redline in 1st or 2nd gear). And I encourage people to drive these cars on road courses where you can hit over 140mph every lap...
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