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      08-27-2025, 04:07 PM   #23
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Looking at the G37 manuals, they don't seem to be collectables. I don't think any Infiniti models are collectables. If any manual should be a collectable, it should be my F13 M6 manuals, but even those are worth less that 40% of MSRP. They are the last true manual transmissions ever produced...literally (RWD, hydraulic steering, V8, looks awesome, etc).
The f13 is electronic steering.
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      08-27-2025, 04:38 PM   #24
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I used to be a huge Infiniti fan especially when they made great cars in the 90's and early to late 2000's. Johan de Nysschen stepping in as the CEO in 2012 really made the brand suffer.
I also loved Infiniti and have owned a 2008 G35X S which back then was a car I wanted and liked.

I had a full catback ARK exhaust and wrapped matte white.

I can see myself picking one of these up to beat up during the weekdays instead of driving my G80 non stop.

Maybe ill get one for my son if they are not too fast.
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      08-27-2025, 04:40 PM   #25
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I still see the mose from.time to time, and they're still sharp.

Fun fact, you can buy this car now. It's the Q50 S Red Sport 400. They're cheap. And the "new" one coming in 27 is gonna be basically the same car.
in a 6MT?
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      08-27-2025, 07:02 PM   #26
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The f13 is electronic steering.
Not M6 and 650 xdrive. Same for F06 and F12.
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      08-27-2025, 08:07 PM   #27
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Kinda interesting to read comments about the “dated” Nissan Z…..while common complaints about modern BMW M cars is lack of feel, too much weight, big curved screens…..longing for older tech.

We have a 2022 QX80 family hauler and absolutely love it, V8 engine, simple and effective, cheap to maintain, built like a tank, super reliable. Used for long east coast trips up and down I95. Don’t care about the criticism it’s “old.”

It’s a good thing to have options, I’m rooting for Nissan to stick around and make some more interesting cars.
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      08-28-2025, 08:06 AM   #28
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Not M6 and 650 xdrive. Same for F06 and F12.
I see conflicting information on this online. Can you help me out with some sources?
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      08-28-2025, 09:35 AM   #29
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I see conflicting information on this online. Can you help me out with some sources?
Realoem never lies, does it?
https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=32_2089

The F13 LCI has hydraulic steering as well.
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      08-28-2025, 09:58 AM   #30
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in a 6MT?
You know, I could have swore I saw them with a manual when I was shopping them, but apparently not.
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      08-28-2025, 10:08 AM   #31
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Kinda interesting to read comments about the “dated” Nissan Z…..while common complaints about modern BMW M cars is lack of feel, too much weight, big curved screens…..longing for older tech.

We have a 2022 QX80 family hauler and absolutely love it, V8 engine, simple and effective, cheap to maintain, built like a tank, super reliable. Used for long east coast trips up and down I95. Don’t care about the criticism it’s “old.”

It’s a good thing to have options, I’m rooting for Nissan to stick around and make some more interesting cars.
My only complaint about the older QX is the stupid touchscreen for the HVAC, and that the packaging isn't great. The 3rd row doesn't fold down into the floor like the domestic rivals, and the space behind the 3rd row was pretty garbage. It was high on my list when shopping, but elwe ended up with an Expedition Stealth.
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I see conflicting information on this online. Can you help me out with some sources?
Of course, you can look at spec sheets and mechanical diagrams that are readily available.

But the best source of information is my garage. I own M6 manual, M6 dct, M6 coupe, M6 Gran Coupe, 650 RWD, 650 AWD, 650 manual, and 650 automatic. All M6s have hydraulic. AWD 650s have hydraulic. I know a thing or two about this platform lol.

F gen 6 series is the last great platform that incorporates old school and new school. None of the ugly new styling, touch screen bs, and horrid electronic steering. And it comes with real full leather and carpeting. None of the hard plastic BS that we see in even the top end cars now. Did I mention the waterfall dash? Will never be reproduced and in this plastic tub electronic dash world we live in now.
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      08-28-2025, 11:18 AM   #33
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Expedition Stealth ..... stealth ... it's the size of a small european nation.
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Expedition Stealth ..... stealth ... it's the size of a small european nation.
To be fair, it's larger than medium European countries too, lol

But yeah, stealth is what they called their blackout package. There's also the stealth performance that adds the raptor tune to the motor (450hp), but we just have the regular motor (375hp).
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Calling it "Stealth" is better than when people say "murdered out".
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Calling it "Stealth" is better than when people say "murdered out".
It's not .murdered out because it still has a little bit of chrome trim, and the wheels are black and machined finish. I wish they made it just murdered out.
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It's not .murdered out because it still has a little bit of chrome trim, and the wheels are black and machined finish. I wish they made it just murdered out.
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As long 3-pedals are an option, I will exercise my right to suffer the handicap and indignity of slower shifts and reaction times.
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AI honestly makes better renderings than actual car designers. I'd 100% buy this.
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Yeah not going to lie.

IF they released this, exactly how it looks here. I'd be first in line with money in hand.

That looks sexy.
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Yeah not going to lie.

IF they released this, exactly how it looks here. I'd be first in line with money in hand.

That looks sexy.
You and me both. Give Nissan this: they can make a good-looking car. I really hope they manage to get their house in order and pull through.
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You and me both. Give Nissan this: they can make a good-looking car. I really hope they manage to get their house in order and pull through.
This is an AI generated image (not from Nissan/Infiniti).
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Looks like a Hyundai from 20 years ago (Tiburon?) and even AI is too stupid to integrate the screen in the dash. Tacked on ipads do my head in.
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Looks like a Hyundai from 20 years ago (Tiburon?) and even AI is too stupid to integrate the screen in the dash. Tacked on ipads do my head in.
Would love for you to find me a tiburon that looks like this lol.
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