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      09-19-2025, 10:24 PM   #1
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ICE 718 Cayman Is Coming Back

Porsche finally saw the writing on the wall and announced ICE Cayman/Boxster 718 models will return in the future. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...-slows-ev-push

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      09-19-2025, 11:15 PM   #2
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In other surprises, the sun will come up tomorrow.

This was always going to happen. It was just it going to sell as an EV only.
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      09-20-2025, 04:05 AM   #3
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Damn it! No one you can trust in this world!
I was so hopping that my Spyder will go up in price because it was the last one produced
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      09-20-2025, 04:40 AM   #4
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Good news if true.
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      09-20-2025, 07:02 AM   #5
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Money talks, morons walk. All for options, but the 100% goal talk was nothing short of insanity.

Thick walled silo dwellers fail, yet again.
They're probably sticking to their massive recession predictions.
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      09-20-2025, 02:27 PM   #6
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Sometimes I wonder if all this discussion of future electrification was done to drive up current sales and inflate prices when in reality there would have still been ICE offerings down the pipeline anyways...
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      09-20-2025, 02:30 PM   #7
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Wonderful news. 100% predicable since Porsche likes money, but wonderful all the same.

Cayman is probably the only car I want at this point.
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      09-20-2025, 04:07 PM   #8
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Wonderful news...
Cayman is probably the only car I want at this point.
It's pretty much the only thing on my future list as well. Nothing else out there excites me even a little.
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      09-20-2025, 07:53 PM   #9
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      09-21-2025, 03:50 AM   #10
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Now, how about go bat shit crazy and put a NA flat 6 in the base trim...
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Now, how about go bat shit crazy and put a NA flat 6 in the base trim...
Later. I could not afford a "top" version anyway.
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      09-22-2025, 07:22 AM   #12
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Porsche is suffering from mismanagement and this is an initial step back toward the light.
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      09-22-2025, 12:33 PM   #13
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Porsche’s stock value continues to decline. Can’t help but think their horribly overpriced vehicles aren’t helping their bottom line.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...ce-2025-09-22/
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Now, how about go bat shit crazy and put a NA flat 6 in the base trim...
Come on! That's EU... they will never be crazy enough to do that
turbo H4 hybrid is most likely it's gonna be
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Only matters to me if manual in a few models. Still pissed 911 is limited to the T and the GT3. Frustrating.

But if they bring it back in enough manual options. Might have an option besides the Blackwing, M2 and GT I’m considering putting next to my Z06 C7.
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I knew this would happen...enthusiasts want ICE, not an EV.
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I knew this would happen...enthusiasts want ICE, not an EV.
Pretty much everyone wants ICE & not an EV. A very small % of the population has the means to charge at home, range is not great, and who wants to sit for 20 min at a charging station.
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Pretty much everyone wants ICE & not an EV. A very small % of the population has the means to charge at home, range is not great, and who wants to sit for 20 min at a charging station.
Beyond that, the economics don't make a lot of sense.

I was looking at a lease on a Lightning. The cost to drive 120 miles (my wife's weekly use to the gym before I go to work) was $11 in the Lightning. In her Expedition, getting 21mpg highway, it's $15. So it's $4 a week cheaper, but I have to buy a charger, and pay to have it installed to charge at 220V. A charger alone is like $600 (3 year break even), let alone the money to install it, add a new breaker for it, run the wire and conduit for it, and add some sort of waterproof grommet to pass the charging cord through. I would never come CLOSE to breaking even during the lease, so to get any use out of that sink cost I'd have to get another EV, which will likely be more expensive to lease next time as this is fire sale time and government subsidized.

Admittedly, this is based only on her use, but my use is very similar but with slightly more city use. So maybe another $5 a week in savings, and at $9 a week I would pay for the charger ina bit less than 2 years, but not the install or any of the other costs.
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Beyond that, the economics don't make a lot of sense.

I was looking at a lease on a Lightning. The cost to drive 120 miles (my wife's weekly use to the gym before I go to work) was $11 in the Lightning. In her Expedition, getting 21mpg highway, it's $15. So it's $4 a week cheaper, but I have to buy a charger, and pay to have it installed to charge at 220V. A charger alone is like $600 (3 year break even), let alone the money to install it, add a new breaker for it, run the wire and conduit for it, and add some sort of waterproof grommet to pass the charging cord through. I would never come CLOSE to breaking even during the lease, so to get any use out of that sink cost I'd have to get another EV, which will likely be more expensive to lease next time as this is fire sale time and government subsidized.
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Hehe... and in 5-7 years it will ask you to buy it a new battery Which will cost twice as much as the entire car.
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Reading the article above, it looks like the ICE will only return in top 718 models like the GT4 and GT4 RS, Spyder, Spyder RS, etc.
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      09-24-2025, 03:30 PM   #22
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Hehe... and in 5-7 years it will ask you to buy it a new battery Which will cost twice as much as the entire car.
That's if you can get a replacement.
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