BMW 1 Series Coupe Forum / 1 Series Convertible Forum (1M / tii / 135i / 128i / Coupe / Cabrio / Hatchback) (BMW E82 E88 128i 130i 135i)
 





 

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      06-20-2015, 01:14 PM   #1
Bimmer-Bob
!
Bimmer-Bob's Avatar
United_States
692
Rep
3,266
Posts

Drives: 2010 128i
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Anacortes, WA

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
OEM Resonator Size?

If anyone is out working on their car soon, would you mind taking a tape measure to the stock resonator and getting some dimensions for me?

I'm looking at replacing mine with a Borla ProXS at 19"x4"x9.5", assuming that it's bigger (and thus presumably quieter).

I would measure myself but I'm currently deployed and won't be home for a while longer.
__________________
____________________________
Appreciate 0
      06-22-2015, 10:41 AM   #2
chris82
Brigadier General
chris82's Avatar
United_States
825
Rep
3,856
Posts

Drives: 128i
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: NY NY

iTrader: (8)

Garage List
2009 BMW 128i  [9.80]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bimmer-Bob View Post
If anyone is out working on their car soon, would you mind taking a tape measure to the stock resonator and getting some dimensions for me?

I'm looking at replacing mine with a Borla ProXS at 19"x4"x9.5", assuming that it's bigger (and thus presumably quieter).

I would measure myself but I'm currently deployed and won't be home for a while longer.
Yes, I can do this later today when I get home. You just need LxWxH ? Any other measurements? My entire resonator and part of the mid pipes are off the car right now
Appreciate 0
      06-22-2015, 03:32 PM   #3
Blacksport
Second Lieutenant
Blacksport's Avatar
54
Rep
246
Posts

Drives: 2013 128i
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Ft Lauderdale

iTrader: (0)

Just my opinion, but I would leave the stock resonator in place and change the muffler...you might want to think twice about using the ProSX, they have a flap that opens under pressure, which I don't really like, and should really be back where the muffler would go, not where the resonator is. I just picked a Borla 400496; it's a straight-thru stainless muffler, no fiberglass, with 2.5" centered openings and a 14" long, 4" x 9" oval body; which will fit perfectly where the stock muffler goes, and it's only 90 bucks. Pretty sure this will quiet down the headers without robbing the HP that the headers added. FYI, I'm not getting a CEL from the headers, at least not yet.
__________________
'13 128i 6sp, '19 Cherokee Ltd 3.2, '17 Ducati SuperSport S Gone But Not Forgotten: 74 Z28, 77 Datsun 280Z (1st 5sp in US), 92 Nissan 300ZTT, 94 MB SL600 V12, 01 M Roadster, 66 Yamaha TwinJet 100, 70 Suzuki X6 Hustler Race: GP/FP Spitfire SCCA, Merlyn FF SCCA, Mazda RX7 IMSA GTU, Yamaha FZR 400 AMA.
Appreciate 0
      06-22-2015, 09:09 PM   #4
Dafttt
Captain
Dafttt's Avatar
33
Rep
691
Posts

Drives: 128i 6MT
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Malibu

iTrader: (0)

About 15" long, 9" wide, and 4" tall.
Appreciate 0
      06-23-2015, 12:11 PM   #5
Bimmer-Bob
!
Bimmer-Bob's Avatar
United_States
692
Rep
3,266
Posts

Drives: 2010 128i
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Anacortes, WA

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dafttt View Post
About 15" long, 9" wide, and 4" tall.
Thanks! The Borla is about 1/3 bigger then, by cubic inches. Might be just what I'm looking for.
__________________
____________________________

Last edited by Bimmer-Bob; 06-23-2015 at 01:30 PM..
Appreciate 0
      06-23-2015, 12:21 PM   #6
Bimmer-Bob
!
Bimmer-Bob's Avatar
United_States
692
Rep
3,266
Posts

Drives: 2010 128i
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Anacortes, WA

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacksport View Post
Just my opinion, but I would leave the stock resonator in place and change the muffler...you might want to think twice about using the ProSX, they have a flap that opens under pressure, which I don't really like, and should really be back where the muffler would go, not where the resonator is. I just picked a Borla 400496; it's a straight-thru stainless muffler, no fiberglass, with 2.5" centered openings and a 14" long, 4" x 9" oval body; which will fit perfectly where the stock muffler goes, and it's only 90 bucks. Pretty sure this will quiet down the headers without robbing the HP that the headers added. FYI, I'm not getting a CEL from the headers, at least not yet.
I'm confused - the part number you quoted, Borla #400496 is a ProXS. Also, I don't see anything about a flap - it's just a straight-through muffler. Also, it's reversible, so I don't see how a flap could be incorporated.

Also, I'm confused what people mean when they say muffler and resonator, because they seem to be used interchangeably sometimes. When I changed out my stock exhaust for the BMW PE, it changed out what I call the muffler (with the tailpipes coming out of it).

A little further up (section 2) there is what I'm calling the resonator (but what RealOEM calls the "front muffler"). This is a straight-through piece in a very similar shape to the Borla universal mufflers. I can see how a Borla would "fit perfectly" there, but I don't see how it could be fitted in place of the BMW PE. Can you clarify please?

EDIT: To add to the confusion, here's what Borla has to say about their universal mufflers (of which the ProXS is one): "For custom needs, BORLA® offers universal mufflers (also called resonators)." Given that Borla calls this part a resonator and a muffler, and BMW calls their resonator a muffler, and the two units are dimensionally similar - I think it's worth a shot.
__________________
____________________________

Last edited by Bimmer-Bob; 06-23-2015 at 02:50 PM..
Appreciate 0
      06-23-2015, 05:22 PM   #7
Blacksport
Second Lieutenant
Blacksport's Avatar
54
Rep
246
Posts

Drives: 2013 128i
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Ft Lauderdale

iTrader: (0)

Yeah that's my bad...the ProSX is straight thru, with stainless and ceramic stuffing, not fiberglass...it does NOT have a baffle plate that opens under pressure...that baffle plate might be on certain cat-back systems...it's not on individual mufflers.

I'll know for sure tomorrow when the muffler shows up.
__________________
'13 128i 6sp, '19 Cherokee Ltd 3.2, '17 Ducati SuperSport S Gone But Not Forgotten: 74 Z28, 77 Datsun 280Z (1st 5sp in US), 92 Nissan 300ZTT, 94 MB SL600 V12, 01 M Roadster, 66 Yamaha TwinJet 100, 70 Suzuki X6 Hustler Race: GP/FP Spitfire SCCA, Merlyn FF SCCA, Mazda RX7 IMSA GTU, Yamaha FZR 400 AMA.
Appreciate 0
      06-24-2015, 12:18 PM   #8
Blacksport
Second Lieutenant
Blacksport's Avatar
54
Rep
246
Posts

Drives: 2013 128i
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Ft Lauderdale

iTrader: (0)

Just got it, it's straight thru...very nice quality, very light...Rob's installing it this afternoon, I'll know tonight what it sound like...
__________________
'13 128i 6sp, '19 Cherokee Ltd 3.2, '17 Ducati SuperSport S Gone But Not Forgotten: 74 Z28, 77 Datsun 280Z (1st 5sp in US), 92 Nissan 300ZTT, 94 MB SL600 V12, 01 M Roadster, 66 Yamaha TwinJet 100, 70 Suzuki X6 Hustler Race: GP/FP Spitfire SCCA, Merlyn FF SCCA, Mazda RX7 IMSA GTU, Yamaha FZR 400 AMA.
Appreciate 0
      06-24-2015, 04:30 PM   #9
Blacksport
Second Lieutenant
Blacksport's Avatar
54
Rep
246
Posts

Drives: 2013 128i
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Ft Lauderdale

iTrader: (0)

Just took the car for a spin with the Borla muffler...fantastic, throaty, sounds elegant, like a 911 with stock exhaust...

Here's the history of my exhaust sound:

Stock - too quiet, can't hear anything.

Stock, muffler removed - decent sound, not too loud, a little too much gurgling, a little bit too "high school".

Headers, no muffler, only cats and resonator - idle's okay but everything else is bad...goes from harsh to unbearable; sounds like a track car, a loud one.

Headers, cats, resonator, and Borla muffler - perfect, elegant, sounds expensive, but never overbearing...love it. And still no CEL...great headers for under $1000. Next weekend the DISA goes on, then up to Eurowerke, an AA dealer, for a re-flash.
__________________
'13 128i 6sp, '19 Cherokee Ltd 3.2, '17 Ducati SuperSport S Gone But Not Forgotten: 74 Z28, 77 Datsun 280Z (1st 5sp in US), 92 Nissan 300ZTT, 94 MB SL600 V12, 01 M Roadster, 66 Yamaha TwinJet 100, 70 Suzuki X6 Hustler Race: GP/FP Spitfire SCCA, Merlyn FF SCCA, Mazda RX7 IMSA GTU, Yamaha FZR 400 AMA.
Appreciate 0
      07-02-2015, 03:26 AM   #10
Bimmer-Bob
!
Bimmer-Bob's Avatar
United_States
692
Rep
3,266
Posts

Drives: 2010 128i
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Anacortes, WA

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacksport View Post
Just took the car for a spin with the Borla muffler...fantastic, throaty, sounds elegant, like a 911 with stock exhaust...

Here's the history of my exhaust sound:

Stock - too quiet, can't hear anything.

Stock, muffler removed - decent sound, not too loud, a little too much gurgling, a little bit too "high school".

Headers, no muffler, only cats and resonator - idle's okay but everything else is bad...goes from harsh to unbearable; sounds like a track car, a loud one.

Headers, cats, resonator, and Borla muffler - perfect, elegant, sounds expensive, but never overbearing...love it. And still no CEL...great headers for under $1000. Next weekend the DISA goes on, then up to Eurowerke, an AA dealer, for a re-flash.
You got pics of that Borla installed? I'm thinking it will be the cheapest, best solution. I hate to lose my BMW PE, but I know it's going to be obnoxiously loud with headers fitted.
__________________
____________________________
Appreciate 0
      07-05-2015, 01:56 PM   #11
Blacksport
Second Lieutenant
Blacksport's Avatar
54
Rep
246
Posts

Drives: 2013 128i
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Ft Lauderdale

iTrader: (0)

I've gotten a few PM's asking about the Borla muffler...so here's a pic; it's lightened so you can see the pipe better.

The muffler sits at about 45 degrees...you need 2 short 2.5" pipes, both curved; one to the left/outboard connects to the muffler, one to the right/inboard, attaches to the dual-tip. Cut the support off the muffler and weld it to the dual-tip.

Ahhhh, the sweet sound of Borla without the shocking price of a cat-back!

BTW, that hemi Durango in the background has a Borla cat-back with over 100,000 miles on it...and it still has that sweet, subtle NASCAR sound....
Attached Images
 
__________________
'13 128i 6sp, '19 Cherokee Ltd 3.2, '17 Ducati SuperSport S Gone But Not Forgotten: 74 Z28, 77 Datsun 280Z (1st 5sp in US), 92 Nissan 300ZTT, 94 MB SL600 V12, 01 M Roadster, 66 Yamaha TwinJet 100, 70 Suzuki X6 Hustler Race: GP/FP Spitfire SCCA, Merlyn FF SCCA, Mazda RX7 IMSA GTU, Yamaha FZR 400 AMA.
Appreciate 0
      07-05-2015, 04:22 PM   #12
Bimmer-Bob
!
Bimmer-Bob's Avatar
United_States
692
Rep
3,266
Posts

Drives: 2010 128i
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Anacortes, WA

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
Thanks for the pic! I think this might be the way to go. Just so much cheaper than a dedicated muffler. And honestly, the only other option I'd consider that is quieter than my BMW PE is the Supersprint muffler at nearly $1200. And Borla has a great reputation for quality and an "OEM+" sound. Will update this thread with install pics and impressions if/when it happens.
__________________
____________________________
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:06 AM.




1addicts
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST