M235i racing flyer

[Mpro]

I think some of you will like this one...

[IEDEI]

i really can't understand WHY they would call this the "M235i Racing"....and it makes me wonder if there really is even an M2 in the works or not. For example, when the E30 M3 production version came out, it was parallel to the E30 M3 DTM racing car......so will there really be an M2?

[nacaruh]

[nachob]

Mr. Lucifer...where do I sign????

[nachob]

Honestly, it upsets me.....this is what the M235i should be not the Active Suspension, fake sound, leatherette-only, NAV-screen-in-the-field-of-view crap they are sending over here!

I hope they M2 is like this...if so, BMW will get their Ultimate Driving Machine credentials back in my book!

[Splinterz88]

Originally Posted by nachob

Honestly, it upsets me.....this is what the M235i should be not the Active Suspension, fake sound, leatherette-only, NAV-screen-in-the-field-of-view crap they are sending over here!

I hope they M2 is like this...if so, BMW will get their Ultimate Driving Machine credentials back in my book!

I agree, but only if comes in a manual option in my book.

[Reedomn]

FYI.......I emailed the contact on the flyer asking to purchase one for the track....here's the response I received...

"We cannot confirm when the car will be available for the US. We are working on that topic but I suppose it won’t happen before 2015."

Kind regards

[Joaco135]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

i really can't understand WHY they would call this the "M235i Racing"....and it makes me wonder if there really is even an M2 in the works or not. For example, when the E30 M3 production version came out, it was parallel to the E30 M3 DTM racing car......so will there really be an M2?

Probably this is it, no M2 just M235 Racing. Hoping for the M2 myself but don't see it happening..

[Splinterz88]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

i really can't understand WHY they would call this the "M235i Racing"....and it makes me wonder if there really is even an M2 in the works or not. For example, when the E30 M3 production version came out, it was parallel to the E30 M3 DTM racing car......so will there really be an M2?

From another M235i racing thread:

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Another look at the new M2, sorry 2er Motorsport.

[nachob]

Originally Posted by Joaco135

Probably this is it, no M2 just M235 Racing. Hoping for the M2 myself but don't see it happening..

The M badge has lost it's meaning with the X5M, X6M, etc. I personally don't care what they call it as long as it's "the real deal." This M235i Racing or M235 DTM as someone else had suggested is absolutely exciting to me. Make it street legal and as I said......Mr. Lucifer where do I sign!

The only downside is that it's automatic but this is one instance that if it's a real ///M whatever car, I would actually consider the automatic much like you can only get an automatic ferrari. BMW needs to produce Halo weekend track/autocross cars to maintain their credibility in my opinion. This is a great start. I remember you used to be able to buy a special camaro with aluminum driveshaft and no options for club racers in the 90s. Honda had the S2000 club racer, etc.

Frankly, I understand that most people want these bloated luxo boxes with an ///M badge. My frustration comes from the fact that you can't get focused cars anymore. When I autocross the first thing I do is get the mirror out of the way for best visibility, now BMW puts this big screen right in your field of view for the gadget crowd. Last year, you could order a car with no nav and get a clean unobstructed dash. Now you can't! Every car has this big screen in the your field of view and no option to remove it! US M235i only come with leatherette and active suspension. No option to get fixed manly suspension or cloth/alcantara. yes, you can buy coilovers and deal with suspension warning lights BUT you are supposedly buying a car tuned by M experts at the ring!

So bottom line, this is super exciting and I hope they bring it to the US and make it street legal much like the Laguna Seca Mustang Boss! This would make me sooooooooo happy!!!!!

BMW are you listening???

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by nachob

The only downside is that it's automatic but this is one instance that if it's a real ///M whatever car, I would actually consider the automatic much like you can only get an automatic ferrari.

not really comparable...as the M235i has the frankly ordinary ZF automatic gearbox......and does not have a DCT (dual clutch) gearbox like a Ferrari has. No, all automatic gearboxes are NOT the same.

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by Splinterz88

From another M235i racing thread:

yeah i remember seeing that. i hope he's right. that being said...in 2005, he also predicted there was going to be an E82 "M2" coupe and cabrio.....so i'm not sure how accurate he is!

[mb135is]

Do you guys get that this is a production race car and not meant for street use or typical customer purchase? It's not an m2 because it's not an m2, and the relation to the e30 m3 is not relevant. We are in a totally different time of how BMW ///Markets their cars.

Here is what we take from this (unless you own a race team): the eventual m2 is going to look great.

[Mpro]

Originally Posted by mb135is

Do you guys get that this is a production race car and not meant for street use or typical customer purchase? It's not an m2 because it's not an m2, and the relation to the e30 m3 is not relevant. We are in a totally different time of how BMW ///Markets their cars.

Here is what we take from this (unless you own a race team): the eventual m2 is going to look great.

+1

[Splinterz88]

Originally Posted by mb135is

Do you guys get that this is a production race car and not meant for street use or typical customer purchase? It's not an m2 because it's not an m2, and the relation to the e30 m3 is not relevant. We are in a totally different time of how BMW ///Markets their cars.

Here is what we take from this (unless you own a race team): the eventual m2 is going to look great.

Not sure about others, but myself and others I know track a lot and would be interested in a production race car straight from the manufacturer.

[LuuZ]

Thx for the link, looks great !

[fastauto]

Originally Posted by Joaco135

Probably this is it, no M2 just M235 Racing. Hoping for the M2 myself but don't see it happening..

I am hoping it will mean the M2 will just be limited when it comes out like the 1m. It may be a homage to the m235i

[fastauto]

Originally Posted by Splinterz88

Not sure about others, but myself and others I know track a lot and would be interested in a production race car straight from the manufacturer.

Agreed. I do not own a race team but would purchase this as a track toy for nasa club and bmwcca club events

[mb135is]

Originally Posted by Splinterz88

Not sure about others, but myself and others I know track a lot and would be interested in a production race car straight from the manufacturer.

Well then I say congrats to you for being in position to spend this sort of $ on a car that can only be used on the track. That is my dream!!!

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by mb135is

Do you guys get that this is a production race car and not meant for street use or typical customer purchase? It's not an m2 because it's not an m2, and the relation to the e30 m3 is not relevant. We are in a totally different time of how BMW ///Markets their cars.
Here is what we take from this (unless you own a race team): the eventual m2 is going to look great.

Another hot track puppy from the recent past. Wasn't even for sale.

[Artemis]

Okay, fair enough BMW. Next stop: the M2.

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by mb135is

Do you guys get that this is a production race car and not meant for street use or typical customer purchase? It's not an m2 because it's not an m2, and the relation to the e30 m3 is not relevant. We are in a totally different time of how BMW ///Markets their cars.

Here is what we take from this (unless you own a race team): the eventual m2 is going to look great.

the reason I bring up the E30 is that BMW have been trying to recapture that E30 spirit....and if they truly want to then the M2 must be rooted in a race car, which it really isn't. One of the big problems with the 1M comparison to the E30 M3 is that the 1M was never a race car.....it has no racing pedigree! a safety car doesn't count