Will it be too much $$ for a birthday present?

BForbes · 08-21-2007, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by yRyan

I would say, like most everyone on this board, this is a bad idea. However, I have a bit of a different perspective. I grew up in a very wealthy area. A friend received a Porsche 911 on this 16th birthday and that's significantly more cash then a 1-series. Audis, BMWs and other expensive cars (mainly brand new) are completely common in the student parking lot at my high school. A female friend of mine wanted something unique so her dad bought her a '67 Benz in fantastic condition when she turned 16.

Some of these people are complete financial idiots now (8 years out of high school). One earns almost 100k / yr and lives paycheck to paycheck. However, the majority of these people are very good with money, including the 911 owner.

So I don't believe your parents shouldn't buy it for you just to teach you the value of money and working hard. I don't really see that as a valid arguement. If it is, the same thing could be said about paying for college. "Parents shouldn't pay for college because the kids won't learn the value of money." It should be an issue your parents decide between themselves. Mom and dad get together and answer the following questions:

1. Will we buy him a car? (if yes go on)
2. How much are we willing to spend?

Then they can come to you and say, "son we decided to buy you a car up to X dollars in value." Go from there.

However, I completely agree with performance issues. I ride motorcycles and there is a question often seen on the different forums, "is a [insert favorite modern supersport] a good starter bike?" The simple answer is no. Even the 600cc bikes are putting out a ton of power for their weight. That power can put you in trouble faster then a slower vehicle. That power can also cause problems. Same thing is true here. Even in a 128 it'd be easy to spin out if you're inexperienced and mash the gas mid-turn. And don't give me that crap about traction control, because I'm guessing 90+% of the users on this board turn that off as soon as they get into a car. Even the 128 will be pretty quick (~6 seconds 0-60 if I remember correctly). While this is reasonably slow when compared to a Ferrari, it's still really quick.

You can still get into trouble in a car with only 50 HP. However, you're more likely to get into trouble in a car with 300. At the end of the day it comes down to how much respect a driver has for the vehicle and how much common sense they have. I know a guy who bought a brand new Yamaha R1 (liter bike) for a starter bike two years ago. He had never even drove a bike down a street before he bought it. He is a very conservative person and has done well on the bike. He's now one of the better riders I know. However, for every story like him, there's at least 10 stories where the guy died.

Forum users can't answer your question. The question is entirely up to you and your parents to decide. And the decision is basically up to them.

Just remember to enjoy whatever you get whenever you get it.

-Ryan

Wow, that sounds like my old high school. A best friends girlfriend dumped him for a guy that got a brand new yellow Audi TT. He had an older one! But a 911 to a 16year old makes me sick to my stomach.

I dont believe withholding a nice vehicle from an 16yr old teaches always teaches them the value of money. 23-24k should be the cap for a 16yr old.

Victor.L3IchibanM3 · 08-21-2007, 07:45 PM

Em_What? · 08-21-2007, 08:07 PM

well i'm 23 and I know how it felt like to be bashed for being a young driver back when I was 17 so i am totally supporting you to get that 135i!

As for professional racing school, i think that should come at a later time. The thing is, if soccer moms or trophy wives could handle high powered RWD BMWs, I don't see any reason how this kid couldn't handle it. And I'm sure lot of those moms or trophy wives have never been to driving school before getting in their cars.

atr_hugo · 08-21-2007, 08:25 PM

The only problem with your argument is most trophy-wives/soccer-moms drive at 4/10ths and most young men drive at 11/10ths. ; -)

If you are a typical male 'hero-driver', get to a good driving school, it's the best investment you can make.

HKF · 08-21-2007, 08:45 PM

Tubby:
I'm in the 'no, it's not a good idea' camp. If you want such a nice car, you should have to pay for it yourself. In a world in which millions of people have to worry about whether they will eat tonight, it's a horrible idea to simply give such an unnecessary luxury to a child as a gift. Be a socially responsible young person, ask for a basic used car, and go work at a soup kitchen for a few weekends.

ice13water · 08-21-2007, 09:48 PM

get a civic si or a altima coupe that what ima do cause im not gonna be able to work as many hours with school

Victor.L3IchibanM3 · 08-21-2007, 09:54 PM

start out with this car and move ur way up :thumbup:

1monkey · 08-22-2007, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tubbypwnz

Hi, im turning 16 next year on october, i was wondering if this 128i, or the 135i, will be too much money for a 16 year old birthday present. Like, would i be asking for too much from my dad? And when would he have to order it to make sure he has it on October 6th?

You sound like Paris Hilton

kurichan · 08-22-2007, 12:54 AM

This thread was a JOKE, right?

Victor.L3IchibanM3 · 08-22-2007, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 1monkey

You sound like Paris Hilton

No...he or she sound like one of those brat from "My super sweet 16" show on MTV

Vornado · 08-22-2007, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by kurichan

This thread was a JOKE, right?

I think so. These threads happen on just about every forum.

vinazzurro · 08-22-2007, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Vornado

I think so. These threads happen on just about every forum.

They do happen on every forum, but I think they're real. Otherwise we wouldn't see the street racing posts by 17 year-old STI owners over on NASIOC.

Notice that the original poster hasn't checked in. He probably has already justified why he "deserves" a 135i for his birthday, has written us off as old a$$holes, and has put in his request with dad and mom.

Victor.L3IchibanM3 · 08-22-2007, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by vinazzurro

They do happen on every forum, but I think they're real. Otherwise we wouldn't see the street racing posts by 17 year-old STI owners over on NASIOC.

Notice that the original poster hasn't checked in. He probably has already justified why he "deserves" a 135i for his birthday, has written us off as old a$$holes, and has put in his request with dad and mom.

atr_hugo · 08-22-2007, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by vinazzurro

. . . has written us off as old a$$holes . . .

Could that be because I fit the description? ; -)

Victor.L3IchibanM3 · 08-22-2007, 10:45 AM

He or she is better of racing this

Vornado · 08-22-2007, 10:53 AM

reminds me of this thread.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=214886

joelk · 08-22-2007, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Vornado

reminds me of this thread.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=214886

:biggrin:

great stuff. nice work.

atr_hugo · 08-22-2007, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Vornado

reminds me of this thread.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=214886

Geez Vornado - here I put on my "Father Knows Best" facade and I shoulda looked at the *pwnz at the end of Tubby's name. Good job!!

InsaneSkippy · 08-22-2007, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vornado

reminds me of this thread.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=214886

joelk · 08-22-2007, 12:33 PM

my personal fav was 22s on a 335 but "not to flasshy" ... no flames please. :biggrin:

lib · 08-22-2007, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by joelk

my personal fav was 22s on a 335 but "not to flasshy" ... no flames please. :biggrin:

You must not have seen the thread with spinners.

larryn · 08-22-2007, 01:10 PM

I guess there's REALLY no new 1er news, when this thread is the busiest one today.

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Em_What? Enlisted Member 1 Rep 46 Posts Drives: Join Date: Jul 2007 iTrader: (0)	well i'm 23 and I know how it felt like to be bashed for being a young driver back when I was 17 so i am totally supporting you to get that 135i! As for professional racing school, i think that should come at a later time. The thing is, if soccer moms or trophy wives could handle high powered RWD BMWs, I don't see any reason how this kid couldn't handle it. And I'm sure lot of those moms or trophy wives have never been to driving school before getting in their cars.
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atr_hugo No longer moderate 325 Rep 4,401 Posts Drives: '13 135i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: - iTrader: (0)	The only problem with your argument is most trophy-wives/soccer-moms drive at 4/10ths and most young men drive at 11/10ths. ; -) If you are a typical male 'hero-driver', get to a good driving school, it's the best investment you can make.
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