MD dealers

KL2DC · 02-15-2006, 06:24 PM

Any experience on loaner availability / model ranges / policy at Passport BMW??

mike20022 · 02-15-2006, 07:13 PM

What is your salesmens email address?

mike20022 · 02-15-2006, 07:15 PM

I have been offered $2700 off so far on a 330i. That was from Jim at Passport. I am shopping that around MD and VA now.

mikepinkerton · 02-16-2006, 09:12 PM

Passport still never emailed me back after 4 days. Wonder why not

-Mike

kobechrome · 02-16-2006, 09:32 PM

Just call Jim directly.

mikepinkerton · 02-17-2006, 05:20 PM

I ordered from Sterling, I got a pretty good deal with zero hassle, zero run-around, and they were very helpful with making sure I agreed with every number on the sheet. I was very happy, probably because I had them agree to everything over email first.

-Mike

hollasrj · 03-15-2006, 10:48 AM

I had almost the exact same experience. Test drove the car at Fairfax got the run around and a high quote and left Posted through Edmunds.com and was contacted through e-mail by several dealers. Passport knocked everyone out immediately. Took Passport quote back to several dealers and they wouldn't touch it. Fairfax initially said no way, then a manager contacted me to say he 'd knock $100 off the Passport price but I found them real sleazy and didn't trust that they would come through. Passport picked me up at the Metro with my car and I was in and out of the dealer in a flash. Great experience, highly recommended.

KL2DC · 03-15-2006, 11:19 AM

Just wanted to add: Well, I finally took delivery last Friday, CA (Jim Redden, Passport BMW) shared that because of his working relationships with people at the VPCs/POEs and at Bremerhaven, he is generally able to "work the system" to get your order in a tad bit faster.

He added that not all priority-1 tagged cars are equal and insists on putting the customer's last name on his customer P-1 cars to facilitate quicker processing at the POE (Bremerhaven) - lends a greater air of urgency?. Apparently, this is not new but not all CAs/Dealers go the distance, he mentioned some dealers who attempt to do so, do it half-heartedly and label all ordered cars with the manager's last name (which would start to look funny when you have a number of cars sitting at Bremerhaven with the same last names).

The other thing (claimed) about Passport is that their sales/order volume is high (finance guy mentioned more than 200 cars per month?) which translate to some degree of internal preferential treatment.

FWIW my car took 6 weeks from ordering to arrival at dealership...might have taken less time as I cancelled PCD (priority-9) mid-voyage, consequently my car rode the boat all the way down to Charleston and had to be trucked back up to DC metro.

Btw CA proudly claimed that there is literally no extra wait or markup to put in an order for an e60 M5, if interested. When I took delivery, a silverstone M5 was ready for pickup by a couple from FL. Looks stunning!!!

Also, delivery was smooth as butter, in and out of finance/paperwork in 30 minutes... Awesome

... I stand by my recommendations...

ase2dais · 03-17-2006, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by know1isgod

Yves Badji (Internet Sales Person)
Joe Long (General Sales Manager)

My third BMW purchase 95 325, 96 318ti, 06 325i, from Passport BMW in Marlow Heights MD. I highly recommend dealing with these two outstanding gentlemen. Joe can be reached at 301-702-6423. He is willing to go the double extra mile for a customer. BMW USA are you paying attention?

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Originally Posted by andylee97

well I bought my car from Yves Badji and yes they went the extra mile. and when i say extra mile, they picked me up at the sterling Carmax, which is about a hour away. Yves is a nice guy and everything went fast.

+1 more

THE JEDI · 03-18-2006, 03:58 AM

Wow

2700 off on a 2006 330, what are you waiting for if you were in germany they would look a

t ya and go..discount.....what is a discount....but just for sake of argument....what are they asking for the 330.

SteveMD · 03-18-2006, 01:35 PM

Let me add. I am a member of a football fan club. We have State of MD organizational tags. I have three cars and all three have the club tags (cus the Ravens are da bomb....sorta).

Passport went out of their way to get those tags on my car. You may thing that that is no big deal but when they are coming off a leased car and going onto a leased car, it is a huge pain in the arse. Affidavits and all kinds of red tape.

Jim Redden at Passport got it done and I am nothing but happy.

RGRAY · 03-19-2006, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMD

...Jim Redden at Passport got it done and I am nothing but happy.

Jim is Great.

No hassle price (any car $500 over dealer invoice) and good communication.

I could not have asked for anything more.

KL2DC · 03-19-2006, 07:16 PM

ok 1 more for Passport and Jim...(I know he lurks around these posts at times to keep abreast of things)

kabhatti · 03-24-2006, 02:26 PM

I haven't taken delivery yet, but I'm driving over 130 miles to Passport for my first BMW. They were very upfront with their prices where others simply didn't wish to offer their best price.

All the negotiations were done over email.

Just one question, was their invoice price about $250 higher then what edmunds lists?

Kalim

KL2DC · 03-24-2006, 02:44 PM

kabhatti:...our invoice figures were in line with edmunds and BMW Confidential Wholesale Pricing. Could the price discrepancy be due to the $200 DAG fee (dealer ad group) they charge everyone here?? Who's your CA??

RGRAY · 03-24-2006, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KL2DC

kabhatti:...our invoice figures were in line with edmunds and BMW Confidential Wholesale Pricing. Could the price discrepancy be due to the $200 DAG fee (dealer ad group) they charge everyone here?? Who's your CA??

I think that's what happened.

My destination charge was listed as $895 not $695 ($200 DAG).

kabhatti · 03-24-2006, 08:42 PM

Ok, that's what they said at Passport BMW, Omid Sakih is my SA. Dumb question.... what exactly is the DAG, is that what the dealer expects to keep the lights on and have soda for the customers?

KL2DC · 03-24-2006, 08:54 PM

kabhatti: well...DAG is simply our share of the dealer group's advertising expense (Passport is a big group, they do Chrysler, Nissan Infiniti and gawdknows...). Its debateable...but $200 is really not a big deal in light of the great price and service we get from them and also the relatively low processing/documentation fee ($100 which includes mats, keychains and full tank). Also after hearing California posters getting hit with compulsory MACO and training fees in the high $400s, the $200 Passport asks us begins to look good...

mikepinkerton · 03-25-2006, 08:36 AM

Interesting, at Sterling I paid MACO ($200, part of the invoice) but no DAG. Wonder why it's called something different for you guys.

-Mike

KL2DC · 03-25-2006, 10:05 AM

Actually not quite sure what MACO stands for...my impression is MACO is set or determined by BMW NA (national advertising??) and DAG is strictly on the dealer/local level...why and how some regions or dealers charge MACO or DAG (or both!!) with or without traning fee is beyond me at this time but surely would like to know ...

tjmsquared · 03-26-2006, 04:55 PM

I just ordered my 330i from Jim at passport. Very easy transaction, Jim is by far the best dealer I've ever purchased from. He was even advising us not to get options that we don't need!! Fantastic expierence, we'll be buying from him again next time we're int he market.

KL2DC · 03-26-2006, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tjmsquared

I just ordered my 330i from Jim at passport. Very easy transaction, Jim is by far the best dealer I've ever purchased from. He was even advising us not to get options that we don't need!! Fantastic expierence, we'll be buying from him again next time we're int he market.

Congratulations...

Specs??

Jim is a pleasure to deal with, very straight up. He's also very communicative wrt order tracking...

02-15-2006, 06:24 PM	#45
KL2DC Moderator 318 Rep 17,767 Posts Drives: F36 428i,E90 328i, E85 Z4 3.0i Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: DC Metro iTrader: (23) Garage List 2015 F36 428i [0.00] 2011 E90 328i [0.00] 2006 E85 Z4 3.0i [0.00]	Any experience on loaner availability / model ranges / policy at Passport BMW?? __________________ Official DC Metro Registry - Current, New & Prospective Area Members Roll Call!
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02-15-2006, 07:13 PM	#46
mike20022 Private 16 Rep 86 Posts Drives: Honda Accord Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: MD iTrader: (0)	email? What is your salesmens email address?
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02-15-2006, 07:15 PM	#47
mike20022 Private 16 Rep 86 Posts Drives: Honda Accord Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: MD iTrader: (0)	I have been offered $2700 off so far on a 330i. That was from Jim at Passport. I am shopping that around MD and VA now.
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02-16-2006, 09:12 PM	#48
mikepinkerton Private First Class 5 Rep 196 Posts Drives: '06 330i Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Northern VA iTrader: (0)	Passport still never emailed me back after 4 days. Wonder why not -Mike
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02-16-2006, 09:32 PM	#49
kobechrome Captain 38 Rep 699 Posts Drives: 2013 F30 335xi Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ashburn, VA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW 335xi Sport [0.00] 2013 Lexus RX 350 [0.00] 2006 BMW 325i [0.00]	Just call Jim directly. __________________
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02-17-2006, 05:20 PM	#50
mikepinkerton Private First Class 5 Rep 196 Posts Drives: '06 330i Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Northern VA iTrader: (0)	I ordered from Sterling, I got a pretty good deal with zero hassle, zero run-around, and they were very helpful with making sure I agreed with every number on the sheet. I was very happy, probably because I had them agree to everything over email first. -Mike
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03-15-2006, 10:48 AM	#51
hollasrj New Member 0 Rep 5 Posts Drives: 325i Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: N. VA iTrader: (0)	Go to Passport skip Fairfax I had almost the exact same experience. Test drove the car at Fairfax got the run around and a high quote and left Posted through Edmunds.com and was contacted through e-mail by several dealers. Passport knocked everyone out immediately. Took Passport quote back to several dealers and they wouldn't touch it. Fairfax initially said no way, then a manager contacted me to say he 'd knock $100 off the Passport price but I found them real sleazy and didn't trust that they would come through. Passport picked me up at the Metro with my car and I was in and out of the dealer in a flash. Great experience, highly recommended.
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03-15-2006, 11:19 AM	#52
KL2DC Moderator 318 Rep 17,767 Posts Drives: F36 428i,E90 328i, E85 Z4 3.0i Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: DC Metro iTrader: (23) Garage List 2015 F36 428i [0.00] 2011 E90 328i [0.00] 2006 E85 Z4 3.0i [0.00]	Just wanted to add: Well, I finally took delivery last Friday, CA (Jim Redden, Passport BMW) shared that because of his working relationships with people at the VPCs/POEs and at Bremerhaven, he is generally able to "work the system" to get your order in a tad bit faster. He added that not all priority-1 tagged cars are equal and insists on putting the customer's last name on his customer P-1 cars to facilitate quicker processing at the POE (Bremerhaven) - lends a greater air of urgency?. Apparently, this is not new but not all CAs/Dealers go the distance, he mentioned some dealers who attempt to do so, do it half-heartedly and label all ordered cars with the manager's last name (which would start to look funny when you have a number of cars sitting at Bremerhaven with the same last names). The other thing (claimed) about Passport is that their sales/order volume is high (finance guy mentioned more than 200 cars per month?) which translate to some degree of internal preferential treatment. FWIW my car took 6 weeks from ordering to arrival at dealership...might have taken less time as I cancelled PCD (priority-9) mid-voyage, consequently my car rode the boat all the way down to Charleston and had to be trucked back up to DC metro. Btw CA proudly claimed that there is literally no extra wait or markup to put in an order for an e60 M5, if interested. When I took delivery, a silverstone M5 was ready for pickup by a couple from FL. Looks stunning!!! Also, delivery was smooth as butter, in and out of finance/paperwork in 30 minutes... Awesome ... I stand by my recommendations... __________________ Official DC Metro Registry - Current, New & Prospective Area Members Roll Call!
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03-18-2006, 03:58 AM	#54
THE JEDI Major 123 Rep 1,461 Posts Drives: 2005 Z4 2.5i Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: JAPAN, Okinawa iTrader: (0)	Wow 2700 off on a 2006 330, what are you waiting for if you were in germany they would look a t ya and go..discount.....what is a discount....but just for sake of argument....what are they asking for the 330.
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03-18-2006, 01:35 PM	#55
SteveMD Colonel 193 Rep 2,485 Posts Drives: 2016 F10 535i MSport Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Raventown! iTrader: (3)	Let me add. I am a member of a football fan club. We have State of MD organizational tags. I have three cars and all three have the club tags (cus the Ravens are da bomb....sorta). Passport went out of their way to get those tags on my car. You may thing that that is no big deal but when they are coming off a leased car and going onto a leased car, it is a huge pain in the arse. Affidavits and all kinds of red tape. Jim Redden at Passport got it done and I am nothing but happy. __________________ 2006 E90 330i (retired) 2009 E90 335i (retired) 2012 E70 X5 50i M Sport (retired) 2016 F10 535i M Sport
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03-19-2006, 07:16 PM	#57
KL2DC Moderator 318 Rep 17,767 Posts Drives: F36 428i,E90 328i, E85 Z4 3.0i Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: DC Metro iTrader: (23) Garage List 2015 F36 428i [0.00] 2011 E90 328i [0.00] 2006 E85 Z4 3.0i [0.00]	ok 1 more for Passport and Jim...(I know he lurks around these posts at times to keep abreast of things) __________________ Official DC Metro Registry - Current, New & Prospective Area Members Roll Call!
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03-24-2006, 02:26 PM	#58
kabhatti Second Lieutenant 7 Rep 203 Posts Drives: 325i Alpine White Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pennsylvania USA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 325I [0.00]	I haven't taken delivery yet, but I'm driving over 130 miles to Passport for my first BMW. They were very upfront with their prices where others simply didn't wish to offer their best price. All the negotiations were done over email. Just one question, was their invoice price about $250 higher then what edmunds lists? Kalim
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03-24-2006, 02:44 PM	#59
KL2DC Moderator 318 Rep 17,767 Posts Drives: F36 428i,E90 328i, E85 Z4 3.0i Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: DC Metro iTrader: (23) Garage List 2015 F36 428i [0.00] 2011 E90 328i [0.00] 2006 E85 Z4 3.0i [0.00]	kabhatti:...our invoice figures were in line with edmunds and BMW Confidential Wholesale Pricing. Could the price discrepancy be due to the $200 DAG fee (dealer ad group) they charge everyone here?? Who's your CA?? __________________ Official DC Metro Registry - Current, New & Prospective Area Members Roll Call!
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03-24-2006, 08:42 PM	#61
kabhatti Second Lieutenant 7 Rep 203 Posts Drives: 325i Alpine White Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pennsylvania USA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 325I [0.00]	Ok, that's what they said at Passport BMW, Omid Sakih is my SA. Dumb question.... what exactly is the DAG, is that what the dealer expects to keep the lights on and have soda for the customers?
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03-24-2006, 08:54 PM	#62
KL2DC Moderator 318 Rep 17,767 Posts Drives: F36 428i,E90 328i, E85 Z4 3.0i Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: DC Metro iTrader: (23) Garage List 2015 F36 428i [0.00] 2011 E90 328i [0.00] 2006 E85 Z4 3.0i [0.00]	kabhatti: well...DAG is simply our share of the dealer group's advertising expense (Passport is a big group, they do Chrysler, Nissan Infiniti and gawdknows...). Its debateable...but $200 is really not a big deal in light of the great price and service we get from them and also the relatively low processing/documentation fee ($100 which includes mats, keychains and full tank). Also after hearing California posters getting hit with compulsory MACO and training fees in the high $400s, the $200 Passport asks us begins to look good... __________________ Official DC Metro Registry - Current, New & Prospective Area Members Roll Call!
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03-25-2006, 08:36 AM	#63
mikepinkerton Private First Class 5 Rep 196 Posts Drives: '06 330i Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Northern VA iTrader: (0)	Interesting, at Sterling I paid MACO ($200, part of the invoice) but no DAG. Wonder why it's called something different for you guys. -Mike
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03-25-2006, 10:05 AM	#64
KL2DC Moderator 318 Rep 17,767 Posts Drives: F36 428i,E90 328i, E85 Z4 3.0i Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: DC Metro iTrader: (23) Garage List 2015 F36 428i [0.00] 2011 E90 328i [0.00] 2006 E85 Z4 3.0i [0.00]	Actually not quite sure what MACO stands for...my impression is MACO is set or determined by BMW NA (national advertising??) and DAG is strictly on the dealer/local level...why and how some regions or dealers charge MACO or DAG (or both!!) with or without traning fee is beyond me at this time but surely would like to know ... __________________ Official DC Metro Registry - Current, New & Prospective Area Members Roll Call!
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03-26-2006, 04:55 PM	#65
tjmsquared New Member 0 Rep 7 Posts Drives: Black 330i Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: VA iTrader: (0)	I just ordered my 330i from Jim at passport. Very easy transaction, Jim is by far the best dealer I've ever purchased from. He was even advising us not to get options that we don't need!! Fantastic expierence, we'll be buying from him again next time we're int he market.
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