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I think there is a tipping where you can or cannot feel the power in your seat. My 9-3 is 210HP and 1550KG and I don't really feel anything TBH. But a 345HP and similarly heavy base (997) 911 felt pretty good on exit ramps in comparison. So did the heavier but more powerful Mustang GT. Not sure what 600 or 700HP does for you though.
If you don't think one can’t feel the difference then you mustn’t have been in a real fast car before. My 3250lb C6 went from 430bhp to over 600bhp and the difference is astounding when you put your foot in it.
You guys call it bragging rights that’s all good, I call it a ride that can pin passengers deep in their seats and still gives me a rush when I squeeze it hard. I might run it against another car here or there if the opportunity is arises and it’s safe but mostly just drive for my pleasure and a passenger if I have one at the time and to the track on occasion.

By the way, I did a centri so it would give a more linear power delivery(like NA) and it spins up to 6500rpm and makes power all the way to fuel shut off.
Here’s an example of a centrifugal SC on an LS. This isn’t all bottom but loves to rev and make phenomenal power all the way up. A light weight 400hp car is real fun, add 200 more and it’s another world.
https://www.google.com/search?q=c6+c...8wtdDOdY-xyzQM
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I'm sure it's fun to punch on highway, but can't see adding more weight to the front help it corner sharper. Electric car would be the ultimate punch in the face acceleration if that's what we look for (though with less drama)
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Gotta remember that was 7 years ago...Plus this is about 3 or 4 threads merged into one.

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=790845
https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=791463
https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=791792
https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=855441

Just to name a few on THIS forum.

EDIT on an edit: Man these places are like a f**king time machine. Once in a while I'd like to just go back and see what people were talking about back in the days. Anyway, GM's initial claim on the "base" Stingray was 0-60 in 3.8 seconds. As it turned out, the base Stingray does 0-60 as claimed in 4.1. The Z51 package is required to hit 3.8 (surprise, surprise). And on top of that, with PDR (performance data recorder), launch control, and the A8 automatic transmission, people have tried their darn hardest to see if they can come close to GM's claimed time.

THEY CAN'T.

There's literally thousands of videos on YouTube of C7 owners of various trim and options, trying to hit that magical 3.8 second 0-60 claimed time. The best is someone doing it in ideal condition, low humidity, low temp, with warm tires and before heat soak set in, someone in an automatic Z51 managed to hit 3.95 second to 60. Most people, including magazines, have seen 4.1-4.4 seconds consistently. With launch control. On warm tires.

Of course, you sort of have to take GM at their words. They probably managed to hit 2.99 in a Z51 equipped C8 in a controlled test environment somewhere. But I guarantee you, in real world testing, most people will likely only manage a 3.2-3.5 in a C8. Which is nothing to scoff at. But that's standard GM practice, unlike BMW where, when they quote you a 4.9 second 0-60 (my MZ4 Coupe), you can pretty much hit that occasionally and beat it if you're willing to abuse the mother**k out of the clutch (magazines have gotten as low as 4.5s).
But that is the same for any car. Professionally tested, a car will return numbers that street drivers, even really good ones, can't achieve.
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I'm sure it's fun to punch on highway, but can't see adding more weight to the front help it corner sharper. Electric car would be the ultimate punch in the face acceleration if that's what we look for (though with less drama)
Mine has the Z51 package and you really can’t feel the marginal weight increase up front and it handles very well. I upgraded to Z06 brakes and wheels and it has 325/275 pole position tires and it sticks very well and stays flat in curves.

Electric is fun I guess for a while but after only a couple of hard blasts and they quickly start bleeding off battery power. So much so the Tesla ludicrous hasn’t even been able to do one complete lap on the Ring without failing. Me, I like the ‘drama’ of the internal combustion engine. I’ll stick with old school engines.
I did run a Tesla S P90 once off a light, he got me out of the hole but I quickly reeled him in inside an eighth and blew past him hard.
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Well the new Porsche one is suppose to be able to keep hard launch multiple times guess we will see, ICE just had so much more drama...

Edit: also looks like model 3p is able to do at least 1 lap on the ring without any drop in performance... (one lap isn't a lot but it's getting there)
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But that is the same for any car. Professionally tested, a car will return numbers that street drivers, even really good ones, can't achieve.
And like I said in my previous post, magazines were spot on GM's times for the most part.
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