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      10-26-2008, 04:31 PM   #45
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For those who say the 'vette is a big car, it's an illusion. It's actually about an inch shorter than a 911 which looks small in comparison.
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      10-26-2008, 07:24 PM   #46
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True cost to ownt according to edmunds







Year 1
Year 2Year 3Year 4Year 55-yr TotalDepreciation$7,719$4,766$4,192$3,716$3,337$23,730Financing$2,968$2,399$1,785$1,123$408$8,683Insurance$1,717$1,777$1,839$1,904$1,932$9,169Taxes & Fees$3,181$78$78$78$78$3,493Fuel$2,612$2,690$2,771$2,854$2,940$13,867Maintenance$0$0$0$967$2,297$3,264Repairs$0$0$0$964$1,477$2,441Yearly Totals$18,197$11,710$10,665$11,606$12,469$64,647


Year 1Year 2Year 3Year 4Year 55-yr TotalDepreciation$10,050$5,375$4,730$4,193$3,764$28,112Financing$3,715$3,003$2,235$1,406$511$10,870Insurance$2,680$2,774$2,871$2,971$3,016$14,312Taxes & Fees$3,947$78$78$78$78$4,259Fuel$2,682$2,762$2,845$2,930$3,018$14,237Maintenance$143$606$353$1,064$2,264$4,430Repairs$0$0$198$470$683$1,351Yearly Totals$23,217$14,598$13,310$13,112$13,334$77,571
Those are the true cost to own according to edmunds. The fist one is a 135 with a cash price of just under 47k, the second is a base model vette cash price at 58k.
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Sorry the copy and paste came out crappy, end result after 5 years, vette is 77.5k while the 135 is 64.6k.
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      10-26-2008, 08:41 PM   #48
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The problem is the cash price is way off for the vette and the 135, as are insurance, fuel, financing, and taxes. This is the reason i don't want to rely on Edmunds True Cost to Own. I like your thinking though.
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How about width? The Vette seems quite wide. I don't have the figures in front of me.
Its very easy to drive and its really not as wide when actually driving it. On the outside the car does look big.
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gas will be cheap for a few years...swing away
The vette is rated at 16/26, which is pretty much equivalent to the 135. People claim 30+mpg is easy on the highway and i can believe that given my test drive.
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      10-26-2008, 08:48 PM   #51
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Reading the opening post, it sounds like someone who should be cross-shopping a Z4 M Coupe vs Corvette, not the 135i. Have you tried the Z4 M Coupe yet?
The synthetic smell you sensed is probably the fiberglass (or SMC, if GM is using that now). Not too uncommon on composite-bodied cars. The complaint of Corvette seats isn't that they're uncomfortable; it's that they're woefully inadequate in support if you do serious work in twisties or on tracks. If you watch some of the roadtest reviews online, you can see the seat moving around quite visibly.

You might also want to try the C6 with MSRC. That would be an awesome bit of high-tech kit to have.
Yes, the Z4m is the first car i went to when i began considering a new car. On paper it was perfect, but in reality i was less than impressed. The gas mileage is dismal, car not great on cargo room, and generally the interior layout wasn't inspiring. The car looked old to me on the inside, the outside still looks great. Its a nice car but i think with the new models coming out soon i would have been disappointed if i bought one.
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      10-26-2008, 08:56 PM   #52
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One thing to remember is that you will be buying either a Chevrolet or a BMW. So you will be living with the reliability of a domestic car or a German car. One reason many of us buy a BMW is because of the superior reliability as well as the superior customer service experience when having our cars serviced at a BMW dealer. The Chevy has a great engine/transmission but the rest of the car is no better than a Malibu or even a Cobalt. Every part in a135 is pretty much the same quality as that found in a 335 or even a 5 series. Little things like the switches can make abig difference in the way a car feels to operate. If you want any luxury in your car, the Corvette is not your car, it is still a Chevrolet and that brings some good things (engine) and some bad things (all the rest of the car). I do agree the Vette is a real bargain in a performance car, but I also believe the 135 is also a real bargain in a performance/luxury car.
Im not so sure on reliability but for quality servicing and no hassles its tough to beat BMW and generally this is what im sensing from current and former owners.

But i think its wrong to say the Corvette isn't a luxurious ride, because it is really a GT car thats so comfortable and effortless to drive. The 135i seems to me to be more sporty.

Quality wise you are probably right. There are definitely some cheap parts on the vette.
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      10-26-2008, 08:57 PM   #53
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I just drove my friends C6 and I own a 135 since 2 days ago. They should not really be compared, 2 different cars for 2 different reasons, and the differences are obvious.

The only general statement I can make is that the 135 is easier to "get a grip on" and the C6 has a sweet brutal feeling drivetrain. The clutch on the vette is just awesome while the 135 is too smooth and will make you fall asleep (if you are an enthusiast).

Apples & oranges
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      10-26-2008, 09:37 PM   #54
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Well pardon me to intrude. But, if some cargo space is what your looking for. Highly consider an 2001-2002 Z3M. Lots of room, weighs much less than current Z4M, will always get looks due to rarity, amazing car overall, sky is the limit for mods, can easily pick up very low miles Z3M for 20k. This may seem VERY off topic, but after driven one (S52 only) I am sold. I will own one at some point in my future career. :biggrin:
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      10-27-2008, 07:48 AM   #55
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my boss is a vet guy, loves the things, maybe I'm not old enough yet, but I dont want to give my my back seat for a few tenths in the 1/4 mile. It's a fair comparison as far as performance, I'm not sure if the vet posters on that other forum have driven a 135i yet, it seems like most have not, because of the comments that were made, they dont realize how close they are on the street.

I had the c6 in the list, it's not apples to oranges, like you I directly compared them, with a bunch of other sports cars and coupes, I had a list of about 10 cars, the c6 and the cayman S were the only 2 seaters on my list, the rest were coupes with back seats.

For me the interior and ergonomics were the main issue against the c6, however that engine makes up for that, so it came down to the back seat. The zo6 interior seemed nicer, but I never got used to how high the center console and shifter are, I prefer the bmw controls and locations, and that is a very big deal because that's what I'm using/touching every day.

Size was also an issue, I prefer smaller cars, the c6 is pretty large, but it feels really large, I did not enjoy driving it because of that, or the zo6 my boss owned.
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^ I agree with you that the center console and the shifter are a bit high.
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      10-27-2008, 11:59 AM   #57
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It kind of sounds like you are leaning to the vette, but I can tell you it isn't that hard to get 30 on the highway with a 135. I did it on a level highway for about 60 miles. 30.5 to be exact, I was doing sixty, if you are willing to drop to 55 it would be even better. Not to mention city driving is at least 2-3 mpg better. At any rate, I wouldn't make mpg a large factor in this decision, just which will be the best car for your needs.
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I keep flip flopping between them. One week im all for the vette, and this week i made the mistake of looking through the Official Monaco thread and im back to the 1. Shoot, with all my flip flopping i could have ran for president.

The thing that keeps me looking at the 135 is that its better built, has nicer features and good safety, and no problems with servicing for at least 4 years. I was watching jeremyc74's adaptive headlights video on youtube and i just love hearing the engine.

Its going to be a battle till the end. We'll see what happens.
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It kind of sounds like you are leaning to the vette, but I can tell you it isn't that hard to get 30 on the highway with a 135. I did it on a level highway for about 60 miles. 30.5 to be exact, I was doing sixty, if you are willing to drop to 55 it would be even better. Not to mention city driving is at least 2-3 mpg better. At any rate, I wouldn't make mpg a large factor in this decision, just which will be the best car for your needs.
where do you drive where city mpg is higher than highway mpg?
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The vette is rated at 16/26, which is pretty much equivalent to the 135. People claim 30+mpg is easy on the highway and i can believe that given my test drive.
my 135i gets 21mpg city, 28 highway.
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Is it true that you have to buy from your local dealer to be able to get a loaner from them when the cars goes in for service? Is there some universal rule from BMW or does this change on a dealer-by-dealer basis?
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if any dealer I go to does not give me a loaner for extended warranty repairs I would be on the phone with bmw NA and it would be the last bmw I buy
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since many years ago, since 16, (I'm not 16 anymore LOL) I always said I would have a vette someday. Well that someday came and I own a 135i and I've not looked back.. well, except in my rear view...

I'm on day 5 of ownership - loving it - period. And, yes the sound, fit, finish, and smile factor are off the charts in my opinion.

but, your personal preference will prevail...best of luck in your 135i LOL

I will miss the autobahn when I return to the states, that's for sure.

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      10-27-2008, 03:34 PM   #64
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if any dealer I go to does not give me a loaner for extended warranty repairs I would be on the phone with bmw NA and it would be the last bmw I buy
Funny you are in atlanta, the CA that told me this was from Global Imports off of 285. He said they only service and give loaners to owners who buy from them. I smelled BS but i want to clear it up. Maybe i should ask dbtheo.
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since many years ago, since 16, (I'm not 16 anymore LOL) I always said I would have a vette someday. Well that someday came and I own a 135i and I've not looked back.. well, except in my rear view...

I'm on day 5 of ownership - loving it - period. And, yes the sound, fit, finish, and smile factor are off the charts in my opinion.

but, your personal preference will prevail...best of luck in your 135i LOL

I will miss the autobahn when I return to the states, that's for sure.

What part of KY....
Congrats on your 1! I live in lousville.
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Its very easy to drive and its really not as wide when actually driving it. On the outside the car does look big.
To my surprise I found out the Corvette is only 2.4" longer and 3.8" wider with a wheel base that is 1" longer. Very deceiving since the Vette looks quite a lot bigger. Maybe because the 135 is almost 6 1/2" taller it looks shorter.
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