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335i could be a better car than new M3 for many people
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04-26-2006, 06:21 PM | #23 | |
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The M3 is not thought of or marketed as being an extension of the base 3 series line. Never has...probably never will. This goes back to the original E30 M3, which was really a production race car sold to the public only to allow the M3 to be homologated for touring car races. Despite the fact that the M3 has become more of a grand tourer through recent iterations of the model, it is still a different car with a different purpose and a different target audience. Note that there's a $20,000+ gap between the 550i and M5 and an even bigger gap between the 650i and the M6. A $20,000 gap between 335i and M3 is not inconceivable. The end. |
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04-26-2006, 07:06 PM | #24 | |
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04-26-2006, 07:12 PM | #25 | |
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But back to the original topic, I'd wait for a M3, well actually I am waiting for the M3.
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04-26-2006, 07:18 PM | #26 | |
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EDIT: Okay, I take that back. I just saw the 330Cic and 525i. But it's still inconceivable. |
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04-26-2006, 07:55 PM | #27 | |
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What do you think will be a base MSRP on an e92 328 if the 335 will be $50K? Keep in mind the coupe historically is only $1000 more than the sedan equivalent and the e92 328 will not be as powerful as the e90 330. |
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04-26-2006, 08:24 PM | #28 | |
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Cheapest hardtop Porsche is the Cayman S. That thing starts off at 49,999 and can easily be configured to 70,000. I think Porsche has increased their terrority and BMW step up to fill the gap. Us consumer gets rape.
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04-26-2006, 09:37 PM | #29 |
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The M badge on a 3 series in saloon , coupe on convertible form always has mass appeal as it is the ultimate 3 series vehicle. personally, most people would aspire for the M3 unless you want to be more discreet and less ostentatious. practicality wise, i think the new m3 will prob be about the same as the 335i, ride would be stiffer, outright performance and stopping power would be much better. if price diff is minimal, i am sure more people will go for the new m3 rather than the 335i
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04-26-2006, 09:55 PM | #30 |
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04-27-2006, 01:01 AM | #31 | |
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YOU predicted that the 335i coupe would START at $47k. $47K STARTING. Do you see ANYONE on this thread saying that? Since you seem to insist on reminding everyone how "right" you are, I'll help you: 1) http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...3&postcount=21 Quote:
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BOTTOM LINE, you spouted off saying the 335 will START at $47k and then back tracked during your incoherent rants...and STILL landed at $45k "maybe" (your words). The fact that you're trying to "brag" about the idiotic prediction of $47k STARTING when everyone in this thread is saying $42k (MY prediction which you called "crazy") to $45k starting just shows how foolish you really are. So why don't you just give it up and stop acting like a petulant child? It's so easy making you look stupid that it's actually not fun anymore. How about we make a deal? You stop trying to call me out for some idiotic reason, and I'll stop making you look like a moron. |
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04-27-2006, 01:42 AM | #33 |
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A 20k US diff between e92 335i and e92 m3 would not stop me from saving up for a m3. i would still go for e92 M3. makes plenty of sense to me.
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04-27-2006, 08:04 AM | #34 |
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I would love an M3 too, but it looks like it is getting too complex, pricey, and heavy for me. I do not want a V8. Something like a 335si M-sport CSL would be ideal.
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04-27-2006, 08:18 AM | #35 | |
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04-27-2006, 09:58 AM | #36 | |
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I stand by my original response. |
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04-27-2006, 01:16 PM | #37 | |
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04-28-2006, 03:20 AM | #39 |
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This is another masturbative thread ? Motosports, AMG are exclusive sports car design for the very demanding individual who will not compromise luxury, comfort, performance and exclusiveness.
335i is just a normal car in the middle class like IS300, CLK350, Audi 3.2.
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04-28-2006, 11:53 AM | #40 |
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The bottom line for me is that after I test drive both the 335i and M3 I will decide which one is for me. If the 335i drives "close enough" vs the M3 and is $15 - $20k less than the M3, then I will purchase the 335i. If I feel that the 335i is seriously lacking, then I will choose the M3. But, I must say that I will need a real good compelling reason to spend so much more for the M3.
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04-28-2006, 12:05 PM | #41 | |
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The M3 E92 will be 410hp V8, there is zero chance a merely 310hp 335i can be any closer? The M3 E92 should make 4.6s. I sometime found the 367hp C55 slow even it makes 4.9s (335i is 5.4s) The M3 E92 will beat 997S, C55 and even RS4.
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04-28-2006, 12:54 PM | #42 |
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I honestly doubt that - regardless of how the final performance numbers fall - the 335i will really drive anything quite like the E90/E92 M3. If there's one thing, anything, that seperates the M or AMG type cars from their more pedestrian counterparts, it's how they drive. At the very least, the M3 will have a different steering rack and different throttle calibration. For example, note that the Z4M has a traditional rack and pinion setup, in contrast to the electronic system in the base Z4 cars.
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04-28-2006, 01:19 PM | #43 |
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Why do I have the feeling that some people just want the 335i to be priced really high! As a consumer I can't understand why I would want to pay more than what is necessary. I believe the 335i sedan will be priced below $40K. Actually $38K is the range that I am looking at -max. I own an E90 330i,does that mean that for a couple of grand more someone will drive a 335i over what I paid for the 330i-yes.
Anyway, I think an M car is designed with a different set of requirements as oppossed to a regular sedan, and I believe the 335i is not an M car- period. Performance-wise, it's not all about HP and numbers, it is about a complete package. F-1 should serve as a good example, just in case we need some form of reference. Last edited by chonko; 04-28-2006 at 02:04 PM.. |
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04-28-2006, 01:23 PM | #44 | |
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