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[ilikebmxbikes]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

You're not in a M3. You have a 1 Series where every single panel from the cheap plastic dash to the arm rest loves to creak and rattle at every opportunity.

And speed is the subject when your question is "How can I make my 128i as fast as a 135i?". You have an autotragic 'vert. Speed will never be its forte. Either accept it or drop the price on your for sale ad to get it out the door.

the hard truth spoken.

You 128i auto vert will not be a 128i. Its not meant to be. Enjoy it for what it is, its a great car. And while I am a huge fan of the e82 I agree with the TheSt|g -

[Kizzu]

Originally Posted by Chrisar82

Sorry mate but the E90/92 is of significantly higher quality interior wise. Notice that the air vent slats are made of metal, the dash has a 'soft touch' to it vs. our harder plastic, nothing rattles or creaks and everything fits tighter with smaller gaps and has a feeling of solidity to it.

I don't know from where do you get all those creaks and rattles. I have nothing that does so and IMO the only thing that bothers me is the arm rest. That said, how about chasis rigidity or plasticy panels? Isnt that low build quality?

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by ilikebmxbikes

the hard truth spoken.

You 128i auto vert will not be a 128i. Its not meant to be. Enjoy it for what it is, its a great car. And while I am a huge fan of the e82 I agree with the TheSt|g -

E82 is a spectacular car, and easily the last BMW I will buy.

[ilikebmxbikes]

Originally Posted by Kizzu

I don't know from where do you get all those creaks and rattles. I have nothing that does so and IMO the only thing that bothers me is the arm rest. That said, how about chasis rigidity or plasticy panels? Isnt that low build quality?

Your suspension is too soft then . I love the simplicity of the 1 series interior but is so inferior to my m3 interior in quality. For what I use my 1er for, I prefer it exactly how it is. You can get the OEM armwrest delete if you dont like yours.

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

E82 is a spectacular car, and easily the last BMW I will buy.

Its a great car. I compliment the e82 and e92. I had an m4 ordered but cancelled it and got an e92 to join my 1er. Both are awesome and have a little something I felt the m4 lacked ( all subjective).

[chris82]

Originally Posted by Kizzu

I don't know from where do you get all those creaks and rattles. I have nothing that does so and IMO the only thing that bothers me is the arm rest. That said, how about chasis rigidity or plasticy panels? Isnt that low build quality?

I honestly don't know about chassis rigidity, plastic panels I'm not sure why they did that for the 3 and not the 1, we'll never know

[chris82]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

E82 is a spectacular car, and easily the last BMW I will buy.

2 series/M2/M3 doesn't interest you?

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by Chrisar82

2 series/M2/M3 doesn't interest you?

Turbos, low effective redlines, electric steering. Probably not.

[Kizzu]

I'm not comparing m3's with 1ers. I would be mad if I did. I agree too on what the stig said. It's the last bmw I will buy too or else an older model. the new range is far too ''technological'', not to mention they are not offering n/a engines anymore which is really a pitty. If the only the one series came out with that 2 series body though

[bmw1racer]

Originally Posted by Kizzu

Sorry had to post on this one. I actually prefer the build quality on my e82 than on my mates e92. first of all. all body panels are made out of aluminium

Aluminum? Really?

I thought only the suspension pieces on the 1ers were aluminum.

[ilikebmxbikes]

Originally Posted by bmw1racer

Aluminum? Really?

I thought only the suspension pieces on the 1ers were aluminum.

new to me. haha. the m3 has an aluminum hood and plastic fenders but otherwise they are made of the same stuff.

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by Chrisar82

2 series/M2/M3 doesn't interest you?

Nope. Pretty much just a worse 135i and 1M Coupe respectively. New M3 is an ok M5 replacement(mostly because the F10 is so awful), but it still isn't an ownership proposition based on maintenance and I don't lease.

Fun fact. MSRP on just pads and rotors on the carbon brakes on the M3/4 is ~$19,000, not including tax or install labor.

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Turbos, low effective redlines, electric steering. Probably not.

As per usual recently, precisely.

[MarkkyyMan]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

Nope. Pretty much just a worse 135i and 1M Coupe respectively. New M3 is an ok M5 replacement(mostly because the F10 is so awful), but it still isn't an ownership proposition based on maintenance and I don't lease.

Fun fact. MSRP on just pads and rotors on the carbon brakes on the M3/4 is ~$19,000, not including tax or install labor.



As per usual recently, precisely.

Hory Shet!

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by MarkkyyMan

Hory Shet!

Yeah, asinine on a $60,000 car.

[Suprgnat]

Originally Posted by Kizzu

Sorry had to post on this one. I actually prefer the build quality on my e82 than on my mates e92. first of all. all body panels are made out of aluminium

Body panels are steel, not aluminum. At least that's what my magnet says.

[chris82]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Turbos, low effective redlines, electric steering. Probably not.

True true on that and I do wish it didn't have those things, but the F80 M3 is probably the most badass 4dr sedan on the road right now. It still goes faster than ever and handles like an M3 should. Not to mention it's just drop dead gorgeous!

[bmw1racer]

Originally Posted by Suprgnat

Body panels are steel, not aluminum. At least that's what my magnet says.

LOL... If you can't trust your magnet, who can you trust?

[aloksatoor]

The 335 I had before the 135 was not any better in build quality. Not been in the m3 but the 335 was pretty creaky and bad as well. But I don't get bmws for build quality of the interior imho the older s class and newer audis lexus have that covered lol. Enjoy the na bmw u got its the last of its kind and will appreciate in value.

[bazil769]

TheSt|G .."Autotragic"? really? I know what the topic of my post was but the subject of this discussion changed when i was advised to buy a mustang. The only thing that ever creaked on my car is the passenger side pillar panel and a little tire wet has solved this for years now. I don't know whats wrong with yours. Your definition of speed may not be mine. I understand the difference between an m3 and my 1er. "You get what you pay for" We each have a threshold when it comes to speed and they are not the same.

[ilikebmxbikes]

Originally Posted by bazil769

TheSt|G .."Autotragic"? really? I know what the topic of my post was but the subject of this discussion changed when i was advised to buy a mustang. The only thing that ever creaked on my car is the passenger side pillar panel and a little tire wet has solved this for years now. I don't know whats wrong with yours. Your definition of speed may not be mine. I understand the difference between an m3 and my 1er. "You get what you pay for" We each have a threshold when it comes to speed and they are not the same.

"A 135i or faster with as few mods as possible."

This question has been hashed many times and there are many definitions of speed and they are all relative to how you intend to use the vehicle.

If you are talking straight line speed, you wont beat a 135i. Even a supercharged 128i will likely be slightly slower than a stock 135i but with the cost of the supercharger and install, you are probably more fairly compared to a stage 1 135i and in that case you wont keep up.

If your definition of speed is based on track times and auto-x times your car being a convertable and an auto will be a handicap. The vert will be heavier. You can enhance your suspension in the same ways as a 135i with the same parts, however the "as few mods as possible" approach may not be realistic.

The 128i is a great car. Its NA, small, lightweightish, reliable and fun to drive. You should enjoy it for what it is. Comparing it to other cars and expecting it to be something it isnt will only let you down and like the st|G suggested, you may be happier getting a different platform.

[bazil769]

I already got my answer from many users, Thank you all guys. TheSt|G i hope i didn't come across as being negative with my response. Again i appreciate you guys.

[Zombie1]

Originally Posted by bmw1racer

LOL... If you can't trust your magnet, who can you trust?

this made my day got a good laugh

[Vigilante375]

Originally Posted by bazil769

Speed is not the subject here. I am not arguing that an American car manufacturer cannot make a faster car than an import. The argument here is overall build quality. Looking at every aspect of the car, would you really choose a mustang gt over an m3 of equal age? Go test drive and inspect both these cars yourself and come back with your thoughts on this. I am not a badge whore. Yes the parts cost less because they are usually made from a lower grade material and are inferior in durability and performance.

Just had to jump in on this but you do sound like a badge wearer. When one picks a car for straight line speed, for handling, or both; the interior is the LAST thing they are probably thinking about. A "crappy" and "inferior" Camaro 1LE or Boss 302 puts an M3 (actually all Ms except the new M4) to shame in the handling department and in a straight line.

Not every car is perfect. A almighty ///M car has its defects but it might not be as much as something like a Mustang but thats because they are made by the tens of thousands and not hundreds because it is so the average Joe can by a new car at a good price.