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11-21-2006, 09:59 AM | #23 |
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I want a diesel!
Popular opinion here is for the gas engines, but I would love a common-rail turbo diesel. Diesel fuel has finally been cleaned up in the U.S. and there are a few companies such as Mercedes who will have 50-state versions available soon. The problem though for BMW may be the image thing in the U.S. Not sure there would be enough demand unless the cost for gas goes back to the $3+ range.
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12-19-2006, 10:24 AM | #24 |
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Let's add a potential turbo 4-cylinder engine in the base model (idea from this thread - http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=349)
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12-28-2006, 01:35 PM | #25 |
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I have heard some rumblings about putting in a 2.5L of the N54, which would be nice. However, my preference lies in the N53. It has all the same features as the N54, yet it would switch valvetronic for HPI (BMW speak for direct injection) and yield ~275hp. It would be light, very fuel efficient, and love to rev :headbang:.
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The great part about this engine already being in the 335i is that an aftermarket is already developing for it and will have developed even further by the time this car gets here. There are already 335i's getting 355hp/405tq at the wheels! |
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03-01-2007, 08:20 PM | #27 |
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Maybe it's just me, but I would prefer the N53 DI NA 3.0 with full 265 HP more than the N54 turbo on the 1 coupe. Sure more power always sounds great, and I certainly don't have anything but love for a turbo motor. But the reason I am interested in the 1 is because I would like a fun little RWD car that I can play with on a daily basis without wraping myself around a pole, and 300HP turbo in a small car like this might be a bit handful to push around on public roads.
I would, however, get a 335i sedan with no hesitation if I wanted/could afford such a car. |
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03-07-2007, 04:14 PM | #29 |
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Results from a candid conversation
I had an opportunity to talk candidly with someone in the know at BMW regarding the 1 Series coupe coming to America. Here is what I could surmise based on that talk.
-It's looking like our base 1 Series (once again got confirmation that the coupe not be called a 2er) will be a 128i with 230 hp. The optional engine will be the 300-hp twin turbo as a 135i. We will not get a 130i as Europe and the rest of the word get. -The car will not be cheap. No specifics were discussed regarding price, but it was clear that the 128i will not be marketed as a "cheap BMW." Instead, it will be a BMW that comes in just under the 3 Series. Esoteric? Yeah, but the car should reflect its price tag in terms of quality and performance. Clearly it will have to be priced appropriately beneath the 3 Series, and my guess is the 128i will start around $28,000. The 135 will likely start in the low $30,000 range. -The 1 Series will be marketed to owners who "can relate to the qualites that made the 2002 and E30 models so popular." In other words, it will be a driver's car. I think BMWNA has acknowledged that the 3 Series is moving into a different market with each model evolution. -We should be thankful they've waited for the mid-cycle update before bringing the 1er to America. The new interior is a great improvement over the original. The materials are in a different league, expecially the door panels. That's the scoop for now. There won't be any news at the New York Auto Show in April. I'm standing by my asumption that the coupe will be shown at Frankfurt in September and make its North American debut in Los Angeles in December. I have no doubt we'll be seeing many more spy photos until then. :roundel:
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03-08-2007, 06:15 PM | #31 |
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Thanks for the news Bryan.
I am not crazy about the engine lineup personally, but I like the connection that the person was making to the older Bimmers. Now one thing that this face lifted 1 series is missing compared to its ancestors is a good communicative hydraulic steering. A driver's car from BMW with numb electirc steering? Maybe it'll be ok, but I am worried. |
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Engine line-up is far from disappointing, to me. My guess is they will follow later with a model below the 128i. The 135i M Sport will rock... Put me down for a 128i with the sports package... 230hp is enough to get into trouble... |
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I sure hope you're right Spud. Don't get me wrong, when I say I'm "disappointed with the engine lineup" that's only because I don't think it leaves much room for a true M version. Name aside, I don't know what they'd power it with, short of the S54. As wonderful as that would be, I have a hard time seeing BMW dropping that mill in a 1 chassis. Regardless, the 135i is going to be a rocket, and one with a sport package will certainly be enough to keep me happy.
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If i could choose between a 135i msport or 130i msport i take the 130i atmo. Turbo engine is heavier and turbo s bring a lot of heat in the engine if you driving a lot track. And turbo s can brake down then.
So i would like a real M engine in a 1 series coupe. That means no turbo. |
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As for turbos being unreliable, I don't think it's true as a general statement any more, but the N54 is very new, and it does host some fancy technologies. German engineering + cutting edge technology is usually a bad mix for reliability, so it'll be interesting to see how it holds up. I still think it's great that they are offering the N54 in such a small car for those that want the extreme performance. I am just a bit disappointed that you can't get the fully tuned 265HP NA engine in either 3 or 1 series in the US, and US only. I am not so happy with the 230HP engine, as it is detuned solely for marketing purposes. |
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03-10-2007, 01:55 PM | #38 |
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BMW adding the 265hp would be waay to much. It makes no sense to have 3 engines for a 1series. There are only 2 for the 3 series. Especially since they are already taking a major risk to bring it here in the first place. 230 hp should be a lot of fun. A 328i takes 6.1 to rip to 60mph. Isnt that number the same that the 130 M does??? Shave about 300 pounds of the 328i and u'll have a 128i!!! violia!!!
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