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01-29-2008, 07:07 PM | #67 |
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Guys, give the poor E-Diff a chance. If you want a drift monster go buy a S2000 or something. Most of you complaining so much about a LSD really just want them to play on the streets with and not the track, and BMW knows this and does not want bad press like the 18 yr old M5 issue. There will be a lot more young drivers with wealthy parents giving there kids 135i's than M cars. So risk is much higher if they give a LSD and not make it Understeer a little. There will be other companies that will make a LSD for those who truely want to make this a serious track car, and those people will pay the huge money for it. Would I have liked a LSD...hell yeah, but I am not complaining because I have not driven the E-diff yet and know that for general autocross and club track days it will most likely be fine and it is better than nothing, and I understand why BMW is doing what they are doing.
People buy a used M3 for the same money if you are so hell bent on an LSD and quit turning every damn thread into a LSD bitch session. |
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01-29-2008, 07:24 PM | #68 |
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Agreed 100%
The question I have is: do the 335 sport coupe have the same e-diff system as the 135??? I have driven several 335 & they peg legged pretty bad! |
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01-29-2008, 07:55 PM | #69 | |
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How is the LSD "unsafe" compared to the e-diff? I think you are confusing the "safety" issue with the dialed in understeer with the e-diff. Its not a safety issue, its a BMW cost-cutting issue. Maybe some of us autoxers and trackers don't think a $35k+ car with the sporting ambitions this car has should require the outlay of another $4k for an aftermarket,warranty affecting, LSD. Maybe all of us don't have the extra $4k cash lying around. IMHO, you can't give a car with that kid of low-end grunt an open diff. That's almost as bad as not giving it a dipstick. |
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01-29-2008, 09:01 PM | #71 | |
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Doesn't look like that is going to be happening over here either.
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01-29-2008, 09:49 PM | #72 |
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You are right they do. And no they do not!
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01-29-2008, 10:40 PM | #73 |
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01-30-2008, 12:32 AM | #74 | |
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01-30-2008, 12:32 AM | #75 |
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Changing the wheel out on an E36 and E46 wasn't too hard at all. If someone did a DYI, it should be pretty easy.
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01-30-2008, 12:40 AM | #76 |
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I wonder if the short shifter is included in the 1-series since it say's the arm is only for the 335i.
Grassroots review also praised the shifter in it's review. |
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01-30-2008, 04:18 AM | #77 |
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Just a thought on the pricing guys - if you're ordering your car with these bits on from new, then surely they'll be cheaper than the 'off the shelf' quotes we've seen?
It'll all be in lieu of something hopefully, so bucket seats in lieu of sports seats, performance suspension in lieu of M-sport suspension etc.. so it might not be as costly as it first seems? I guess a few people will be putting their spec on hold until they see the new packages. My shopping list: Full bodykit + carbon splitter/valance/mirrors/spoiler Seats Suspension & strut brace Short shift Brakes Air intake & exhaust I think the brushed alu will break up the black interior a bit better than carbon. I want BBS LMs, so don't need the wheels I can't help worrying the steering wheel is (a) impossible to clean and will look rotten after 12 months of sweaty hands and (b) unnecessary, do I really need any of the functions?.. the less wheel clutter the better.
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01-30-2008, 05:26 AM | #78 | |
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But what about snow?
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01-30-2008, 05:46 AM | #79 | |
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thatīs your opinion but i think a lot of people would be overstrained with the power on the snow i like the way bmw managed it to give these people a little more power by switching on the dtc so they always have the dsc in reserve the 335i is not equiped with the e-diff from the 135i as far as i know (i can remember a german television programm where the 335i was producing white smok on the inner wheel by stepping on the pedal in a corner) |
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01-30-2008, 07:28 AM | #82 |
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Outstanding...! Now, if BMW would release a tad "bit" more info on the Clubsport version I will be able to make my decision whether to hold off for that... or just buy a 135i and put about $15k -$20k in upgrades into that. :iono: Damn I hate making decisions.....lol |
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01-30-2008, 07:39 AM | #83 | |
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01-30-2008, 07:57 AM | #84 | |
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No the E-diff is better in snow...! Matter-of-fact a BMW engineer has suggested that the eDiff was specifically designed for the track and specifically tuned for the 135i to allow the ass-end to hang out quite a bit. If you've seen any 135i drifting video's I think you can see this come into play. Not to mention the dual patch burnouts people are doing. I'm a proponent of LSD's... but I know BMW engineering. I'd likely bet that many here touting they want an LSD, if told this car had one... they wouldn't know the difference! -Garrett |
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01-30-2008, 11:18 AM | #85 |
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This is wrong (a real LSD always helps traction in snow as well as pavement). The choice between a real LSD and an E-diff is not necessary (it's a false choice). The proper way to equip a sportscar is with BOTH a mechanical LSD and then add electronic (E-diff) control (which can be turned off). This is how Porsche has done things since 1995 (Porsche's version of E-diff is ABD or Automatic Braking Differential).
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They are a free option in Europe on the Carrera and they are standard on all the GT models (GT2, GT3, Carrera GT). Optional on the Turbo and not available at all on the US Carreras or Boxster/Cayman. Should be available on every model. They are intentionally held back from the Boxster/Cayman models, so their performance doesn't threaten the 911
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