The 1M is fast.......

[Blue135i]

Originally Posted by Beemer22

GT-R is TWICE in price. No comparison.

I don't think I'd agree with that, the ones I have seen posted for sale recently are in the 60's, some in 70's and even one jackass at 87k. That's hardly twice the price. Either way, this thread is a joke for those that really think a 1M is going to be beating GT-R's, come on guys. Trap speeds aren't even in the same ball park and with the auto shifting of the GT-R the race would be over at any starting point (0, 30, 60, 120, 150). The new GTR packs 530hp/448lb ft

A much more competitive race would be to see if a 1M can even beat a JB3/4 tuned N54 135. I suspect it will STRUGGLE and I'd even volunteer mine up for a friendly match up when the track opens in spring for any 1M takers in DC metro area.

The reason I say this is that if you look at the hp/torque comparison on the cars, it could be a good race. The 1M with 335hp/332 lb-ft (rising to 369 in over boost). If you look at the burger tuning graph for a otherwise STOCK N54 135 (on 91 gas, not even 93), you can see that the whp numbers on the 135 with just JB3 343hp/363 lb-ft of torque. This is an at the wheels number vs the 335/332 at the crank for the 1M, either way a pretty good match up if you ask me. 1M weighs 77lbs less than a 135, not a huge difference.

Don't get me wrong, I love the 1 M, just saying that we will come across as silly to other enthusiasts if we're going around believing that a 1M will smoke a GT-R.

[Blue135i]

someone show me a 1M that can do this........

ok that wasn't fair....lol.....didn't realize he was tuned until after I posted it. Still pretty damn sweet. Here's a stock one

[1SerieStud]

Originally Posted by Dan Parker

What would be more interesting (to me) is to see the times of 2 1M's running these tests against each other with and without a downshift. Perhaps we should meet on route 16 (between Savannah and Macon) some time? That's about 1/2 way between here and Jacksonville. I'm not serious, as usual on here, but it would be interesting to see if over boost increases the torque enough to make up for the fact the hp peak is in the higher revs. Actually, 16 is a cop haven so this might be a very bad idea but I'd like to see time comparisons.

Sounds like a great idea for those looking to get rid of their driver licenses

[1SerieStud]

Originally Posted by Blue135i

someone show me a 1M that can do this........

ok that wasn't fair....lol.....didn't realize he was tuned until after I posted it. Still pretty damn sweet.

Comparing a much more expensive (out of the box), more powerful, AWD machine that in addition has been tuned, in a 0-60 contest gives me a very clear understanding of your inability to comprehend cars and their given purpose.

[terrybGT3]

Originally Posted by Beemer22

How did you get 415/475 out of the 1M? If you mean 415 hp and 475 tq?

This was the result of a DMS remap (similar figs to Chris Buers too). It was dyno'd before the remap at 380bho and 420lbft - so in stock configuration it kicks out a fair bit more than the official figures suggest. The engine had 4k miles at the point of remap.

dynoplot showing before and after plots

[Blue135i]

Originally Posted by 1SerieStud

Comparing a much more expensive (out of the box), more powerful, AWD machine that in addition has been tuned, in a 0-60 contest gives me a very clear understanding of your inability to comprehend cars and their given purpose.

Actually, its your inability to comprehend my posts that appears to be the issue. If you read up, my actual comparison was a 135 JB tuned car and a 1M. The GTR posts/videos were just to hopefully convince those that "DID" try to compare the two cars together, that they are making a poor assumption in thinking the 1M can beat a GTR.

Don't go flaming people if you don't even have the courtesy to read my actual posts before insulting me

[hybris4u]

Yes the Nissan is a quick rice cooker. But ugly as... Would never ever buy it no matter how fast it is. Just my feedback. Don't get me wrong the Nissan is quick if you want a need for speed looking car.

[hybris4u]

And I agree totally. Stop comparing tuned cars with the 1M. Then we should compare with tuned 1Ms also. Either compare standard factory default cars or don't compare at all.

Really tired of the 135i people on this forum. Please go back to your forum and compare your need for speed tuning there. Over here we talk 1M!

[hybris4u]

Interesting dyno! I have also heard the 1M is more like 360-380 bhp. Its a bit like Alpina use to understate their cars to never look better than M cars. Even when they where. ;-) Seems like BMW understated the 1M to not look to good vs the M3?

[1SerieStud]

Originally Posted by Blue135i

Actually, its your inability to comprehend my posts that appears to be the issue. If you read up, my actual comparison was a 135 JB tuned car and a 1M. The GTR posts/videos were just to hopefully convince those that "DID" try to compare the two cars together, that they are making a poor assumption in thinking the 1M can beat a GTR.

Don't go flaming people if you don't even have the courtesy to read my actual posts before insulting me

oh buddy I read your "show me a 1M that will do this..." non-sense all right. You're just another 135i butt-hurt like many others lurking these forums. No offense to your 135i, as I had one prior to my 1M, but this is simply a MUCH better car and I have the first hand experience to tell you so, whether you want to accept it or not. So just like a gtr-1m comparison makes no sense, a 135i-1m comparison makes no real sense either, I don't care how much money you threw at it.

I rest my case, this is a waste of my time.

[Papethova]

Originally Posted by hybris4u

Yes the Nissan is a quick rice cooker. But ugly as... Would never ever buy it no matter how fast it is. Just my feedback. Don't get me wrong the Nissan is quick if you want a need for speed looking car.

+1 for that money Id go to the GT3 RS

[RnmEvo9]

Originally Posted by hybris4u

And I agree totally. Stop comparing tuned cars with the 1M. Then we should compare with tuned 1Ms also. Either compare standard factory default cars or don't compare at all.

Really tired of the 135i people on this forum. Please go back to your forum and compare your need for speed tuning there. Over here we talk 1M!

A tuned 1M vs a tuned 135i (with N54) at a drag strip is a drivers race, whereas on a road course the 1M has a significant advantage.

[Beemer22]

Originally Posted by RnmEvo9

A tuned 1M vs a tuned 135i (with N54) at a drag strip is a drivers race, whereas on a road course the 1M has a significant advantage.

Tuned 135 will be spinning tires while the 1M is 3 cars ahead on a drag race.

LSD!!!

[RnmEvo9]

Originally Posted by Beemer22

Tuned 135 will be spinning tires while the 1M is 3 cars ahead on a drag race.

LSD!!!

There are a lot more variables that take into account of a 135 spinning than just an LSD alone, but yes, that does help, just not as much as you might think at the drag strip. An aftermarket LSD such as a Quaiffe is much more potent than the OEM LSD for example.

Go to the dragstrip and let me know your results. I've already had my fair share of fun at the dragstrip with several tuned 1Ms.

[Beemer22]

Originally Posted by RnmEvo9

There are a lot more variables that take into account of a 135 spinning than just an LSD alone, but yes, that does help, just not as much as you might think at the drag strip. An aftermarket LSD such as a Quaiffe is much more potent than the OEM LSD for example.

Go to the dragstrip and let me know your results. I've already had my fair share of fun at the dragstrip with several tuned 1Ms.

I didn't buy the 1M to drag race. The car has too much class for that.

[RnmEvo9]

Originally Posted by Beemer22

I didn't buy the 1M to drag race. The car has too much class for that.

Hopefully you didn't, otherwise I would laugh at your face considering there are much better cars out there for the money that would obliterate a 1M at the drag strip, but I digress, you have a nice automobile that performs exceptional at a track.

[1SerieStud]

Originally Posted by RnmEvo9

There are a lot more variables that take into account of a 135 spinning than just an LSD alone, but yes, that does help, just not as much as you might think at the drag strip. An aftermarket LSD such as a Quaiffe is much more potent than the OEM LSD for example.

Go to the dragstrip and let me know your results. I've already had my fair share of fun at the dragstrip with several tuned 1Ms.

Or you could come here so that I can have some fun with you

But I'm with the last post above...I didn't buy my 1M to drag race, there are other cars that come to mind if that were to be my sole focus.

[b33g33]

Bitches! My tuned Camaro can kick your 1M's ASS on the drag strip!!

Yes, that's right. I want to compare your bone-stock 1M to my tuned (insert model and make here) and PROVE ONCE AND FOR ALL that YOUR 1M SUCKS BALLS!

[ozinaldo]

[Beemer22]

Originally Posted by Blue135i

I don't think I'd agree with that, the ones I have seen posted for sale recently are in the 60's, some in 70's and even one jackass at 87k. That's hardly twice the price. Either way, this thread is a joke for those that really think a 1M is going to be beating GT-R's, come on guys. Trap speeds aren't even in the same ball park and with the auto shifting of the GT-R the race would be over at any starting point (0, 30, 60, 120, 150). The new GTR packs 530hp/448lb ft

A much more competitive race would be to see if a 1M can even beat a JB3/4 tuned N54 135. I suspect it will STRUGGLE and I'd even volunteer mine up for a friendly match up when the track opens in spring for any 1M takers in DC metro area.

The reason I say this is that if you look at the hp/torque comparison on the cars, it could be a good race. The 1M with 335hp/332 lb-ft (rising to 369 in over boost). If you look at the burger tuning graph for a otherwise STOCK N54 135 (on 91 gas, not even 93), you can see that the whp numbers on the 135 with just JB3 343hp/363 lb-ft of torque. This is an at the wheels number vs the 335/332 at the crank for the 1M, either way a pretty good match up if you ask me. 1M weighs 77lbs less than a 135, not a huge difference.

Don't get me wrong, I love the 1 M, just saying that we will come across as silly to other enthusiasts if we're going around believing that a 1M will smoke a GT-R.

I don't have to beat your modded 135i. I have a 1M.

[Beemer22]

I would also never consider a Nissan. Nissan folks, please....

[onkloud9]

Originally Posted by rossii

Ummmm by you http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=613776 Good blog though......

wow

Originally Posted by Beemer22

I don't have to beat your modded 135i. I have a 1M.

Originally Posted by Beemer22

I would also never consider a Nissan. Nissan folks, please....

LOL I'm in tears. Every one of your comments define stereotypical BMW snobbery or douchy salesmanship, great laughs. Which stealership do you work at again?