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      08-03-2017, 09:30 AM   #1
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Question Keep burning through Pilot Super Sports, need adivce

I'm curious what others are doing but I switched to Michelin Pilot Super Sports about 2 years ago and have LOVED them, with one caveat, I keep burning through my rear tires!

Now yes, I know that's like 99% my fault but I can't help it, that WOT is just intoxicating!! With any regard, I was looking to see if there is possibly a cheaper and/or longer lasting tire that is close to the Pilot Sports in wet and dry performance. I'll probably keep the fronts as the PSS's because those I can get about 2 years out of but the rear I'm blowing through every 8 months at the most and at $430/pair it's taking it's toll on my mod budget!!! (1st world probs???)

I'm considering the Continental ExtremeContact Sport for the rear but curious if anyone has some other suggestion. The price of the PSS's don't bother me, but the frequency at which I have to change them is getting annoying so I think I want a tire that has a higher UTQG than 300 AA A. The Continentals are 340 AA A which is why I'm considering them, thoughts?
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      08-03-2017, 09:58 AM   #2
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Honestly if you're burning out your rears due to WOT there's really no tire for you(except new ones). I have PSSs as well and they're going on almost 3 years and 22k+ miles. So far they got plenty of meat of them. I do a WOT from time to time but not to the point where my rears are wearing, honestly once you open up 2nd and then 3rd gear it's time to slow down.
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      08-03-2017, 10:51 AM   #3
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Set your boost control by gear in the JB4 until you're not spinning tires anymore. I think I have a year on mine and they're still perfectly fine.

Continentals will just burn up faster.
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      08-04-2017, 02:10 AM   #4
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You can't compare tread wear ratings from one manufacturer to another. Stop leaving rubber on the road and your tires will last longer (and everything else will too). :-)

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      08-04-2017, 05:50 AM   #5
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ianc is correct, so forget about that. I recommend not worrying about it. I killed my last set of rear tires in under 4k miles and only pay like 250 for the pair to replace them. That's chump change if you can afford to own one of these cars.

Really though how is this even a thread? Your options are extremely obvious: softer tires wear more quickly and have more grip / consistency, harder tires last longer and have less grip / consistency. You can also try a less expensive tire.
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      08-04-2017, 06:45 AM   #6
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You could check out A/S3+. You lose a little grip but are supposed to last longer. I am very happy with them but canít provide feedback on WOT wear.
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      08-04-2017, 07:33 AM   #7

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do you have a lsd? for the prices you're paying on tires it might be a good investment.

there are tires that have similar or better dry grip as mpss for half the price. As others have said, the sticky compound that gets you the grip also wears quickly, but mpss are expensive because they're such a good all-rounder. if you can compromise in one area, you'll be able to get either better tread life, or lower purchase costs.

For the miles youre getting, you'll be better off getting a set of dry weather rear wheels, and a different set for the wet.

I'll try to dig up a thread with some anecdotal recommendations.
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      08-04-2017, 08:11 AM   #8
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Two things I'd do....


Run a different winter tire.

Cold weather the Pilot Sport and any high performance sticky tire will harden up and then they slip, slip = wear.

"Don't Drive Summer Performance Tires in Cold Temperatures

Whether you blame it on climate change, a polar vortex or what seems to be the beginning of the next ice age, there's no doubt recent weather patterns have exposed many drivers to freezing temperatures and wintery driving conditions. In anticipation of the next time Mother Nature extends her cold reach, drivers with vehicles equipped with summer performance tires need to know those tires are not designed for near- or below-freezing temperatures on clear roads, nor in slush, snow and ice.

When faced with near- and below-freezing temperatures, drivers should leave their summer performance tire-equipped vehicle at home and drive a vehicle equipped with all-season or winter tires.

Summer performance tires feature tread compounds engineered to provide traction in warm to hot ambient temperatures. They were never intended to experience near- and below-freezing temperatures, nor the wintry driving conditions that often accompany them.

As ambient temperatures get colder, typically in the 40-45į Fahrenheit range, summer performance tires lose a noticeable percentage of traction as their tread compound rubber properties change from a pliable elastic to inflexible plastic. The tire industry uses the term "glass transition" to describe the temperature where a summer performance tire's grip/slip performance changes dramatically. This means the summer performance tires that provide predictable traction in warm to hot conditions will be found to be very challenging to drive in cold to freezing temperatures. This is especially true when the tires first begin to be driven or if the driver aggressively applies gas pedal pressure with today's turbocharged fours or high-torque sixes and eights. Fortunately, glass transition is a reversible condition that allows the tires' normal traction to return as the ambient temperatures climb.

If ambient temperatures drop to near- or below-freezing, driving or rolling a vehicle equipped with summer performance tires risks the possibility of tread compound cracking. Tread compound cracking is a permanent condition that requires the tires to be replaced. The other condition that can be caused by running summer performance tires in cold temperatures is the possibility of chipping away the edges of the tread blocks.

Since both of these conditions only occur as the result of what's considered improper use or storage, they are not typically covered by the manufacturer's warranty."

Second.... Have some self control!!!
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      08-17-2017, 02:35 PM   #9
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I've had the Conti ExtremeContact Sport for a few months and I really enjoy them! Might be worth a look since they are cheaper than the PSS. I see that the tread rating is slightly better too, but that isn't always accurate so keep that in mind.
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