FIRST VIDEO of BMW 1M - M1 production body test car on and around Nurburgring!

[Beemer323]

Originally Posted by Matski

Interesting...

For those that think that it nees quad exhaust pipes and wing vents to make it an M...

... you do realise that would mean that the E26 M1, E12 M535, E28 M5, E24 M635CSi, E30 M3, E36 M3, and E34 M5 weren't actually M cars... but the X5M and X6M are?

Anyway, looks great, I can't wait for the press release, to finally answer all these questions!

Wow, great point. Also the fact they did not have a CF roof rules them out as being true M cars!!

[Alumac]

Originally Posted by Redline

I don't mean to argue, and your reason is rational, however the idea still stands that DCT CAN do the the same thing.

Of course you mean to argue. Who cares what DCT can do in your fantasies? This test mule is a stick, not a slushbox.

[MDS]

As far as I knew.... these Test Mules are supposed to be highly secret.

Now we even get films, and close ups and so on ?

Are these purposely made as teasers ?


I have seen a few rolling around in Munich myself, but never seen footage like this....


Very cool anyway.... Sounds good

[ChrisK]

I agree, this entire M1 process is very un-BMW-ish.

[sparoz]

Originally Posted by ChrisK

I agree, this entire M1 process is very un-BMW-ish.

New direction of marketing for this generation? . Well, it is working like a charm.

And to all those who still thinks it's not a ///M before the lack of certain parts? The lack of parts can be easily added, but the things that are extra on the car - the wider tracks, the fender, the ducts and the LSD - you are not going to have iS with all these.

Having said that, I am still not sure it's going to be called the M1 yet, but hope they do. Otherwise, M Coupe is okay, and the worst would be M135i. Or may be they will call it something like 1Mdrive4.5.

[BrokenVert]

Originally Posted by jamesyoon

no quads? side grills? some "M" characters to distinguish it?

I would say that the front bodywork, the much wider fenders, and the LSD are very distinguising characteristics, don't you?

[Muffnbluff]

Originally Posted by Alumac

Of course you mean to argue. Who cares what DCT can do in your fantasies? This test mule is a stick, not a slushbox.

Well, technically a DCT isn't a slushbox.

I'd prefer to call it a "can't drive a real stick shift so likes to talk about how the twin clutch shifts faster than any human but kills the soul of the car - box".

[ChrisK]

LOL that's crazy. I have driven nothing but MT's my entire life (Been driving for 27 years now) and I am even considering a DCT in my next... ->M1<-

It's the future, and DCT doesn't make you any less of a driver.

[EngPhys09]

Originally Posted by Muffnbluff

I'd prefer to call it a "can't drive a real stick shift so likes to talk about how the twin clutch shifts faster than any human but kills the soul of the car - box".

+1
My goal is to test drive a new BMW DCT just to see how bad and useless it its, then get fed up during the test drive and put it back into auto mode.
Can you really do a 3 point turn in one? I'm sorry I could never switch from a manual.

[sparoz]

I'll have to really test the DCT thoroughly before I decide. The temptation of changing gears too late may be detrimental to your health (or rear tires) - I guess you just need to get used to it?? You'll loose the clutch control though with the DCT.

[ChrisK]

Well, whichever tranny you choose, this car will be incredible.

[///Mangler]

Originally Posted by Matski

Interesting...

For those that think that it nees quad exhaust pipes and wing vents to make it an M...

... you do realise that would mean that the E26 M1, E12 M535, E28 M5, E24 M635CSi, E30 M3, E36 M3, and E34 M5 weren't actually M cars... but the X5M and X6M are?

Anyway, looks great, I can't wait for the press release, to finally answer all these questions!

You can take E36M3 out it is not a real M car, in the US anyway.

T

[Jake C]

Originally Posted by ChrisK

Well, whichever tranny you choose, this car will be incredible.

+1

- J

[AlBel1214]

God.. I just bought a car 4 months ago and can't wait for this thing... ha

[OneDirty]

Originally Posted by ///Mangler

You can take E36M3 out it is not a real M car, in the US anyway.

T

You can put it right back in on the rest of the world, i.e not the US, it's very much a real M car

[JasonCSU]

Originally Posted by bmrm396

WHY HAVENT WE SEEN QUAD EXHAUST YET???

i really hope they dont blend it in like the 128 and 135 - weak

Originally Posted by auggiem3

Agreed! Quad exhausts and an M side vent (or an official BMW press release) and I'm a 100% believer in the M1. Until then, I'm still hesitant....could still be a 135is or some other sporting derivative.

You guys do realize that test mules are not the finished product, right? Also, what's the fascination with the quad exhaust? Just because M cars since the Z3 M Roaster/Coupe have had quads does not mean all new M cars must have quads. There have been plenty of M cars without a quad exhaust in the past, and it really doesn't make much sense on an inline six anyway.

[OneDirty]

Originally Posted by JasonCSU

Also, what's the fascination with the quad exhaust? Just because M cars since the Z3 M Roaster/Coupe have had quads does not mean all new M cars must have quads. There have been plenty of M cars without a quad exhaust in the past, and it really doesn't make much sense on an inline six anyway.

2 pipes please! And as little of this carbon stuff as possible

This car won't be right without a manual option. I'm very happy with my current steptronic (prefer the honesty of an old-fashioned slusher to all this whizz-bang VAG-style 600-clutch BS) but if the M1 is DCT only, I'm out...

[GeoffM]

I hate to see this good thread go south to a DCT vs 6MT thread, however...... I have yet to see any automatic in an FI car be tolerable.

NA DCT, I can tolerate, blipping works well in C63, E9X, M6, M5 etc. but somehow downshifting in prep for a turn @ a track day, no boost, etc..

anti-lag anyone?

glad I have my 6MT except when stuck in ATL traffic.....

[mpukas]

Bit late to the party, but here are my thoughts (and I've read most of the posts, but not ever single one)...

It's a manual, and he doesn't stall it at the beginning. It looks to me something like, the car was off, he pushed the clutch in w/out the hand brake on (that's why the car rolls backwards), changes gear to reverse (that's the clunk, and the car was driven forward in 1st gear, parked and turned off w/out the hand brake on, left in 1st gear), and then presses the start button.

I think this is an M1 (or whatever it will be called) and NOT an iS because; A) there is no sunroof (at least that I can see) it may not be CF on this mule, but that's not the same roof on my car, and I doubt the iS will come with a sunroof-delete option; B) the wider track & wider fender front and rear - the iS isn't going to be offered with that option; C) the lower offset and wider wheels - again, no iS option for that.

Can't wait for the final details! Very exciting!!!

[treehacker]

Look at this article on a german magazine:
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/n...article_detail

But.. they are saying it will have 328HP ... hmmm... don't believe it will have so few more power than the 135i

BTW, the pictures are nice... just cought the mule in action.

[stevehifi]

Don't be fooled by the sound in the video, that's an M V8 not an inline 6. That sound is now wired into my brain (I have an e90 M3).

forget the obsession with quad exhaust, this thing is heavy enough...why add more weight with a bigger exhaust?

[AlBel1214]

^^ Not a chance on gods green earth this thing is getting a V8... Fuel efficiency is the top priority right now.. Even the M3s won't have V8's soon enough...