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      04-07-2014, 06:18 PM   #45
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There is no considerable rake, the angle of the photo makes it seem like that. The rear is maybe 1/4" higher, but they are still setteling. Im running snow tires 225/35/18 all around.
while i wouldnt say "considerable", I agree with the i128, there is some rake. Every pic I have seen on the net has shown the rake. Front tires are almost always just ready to tuck, where the rear wheel has a considerable wheel gap.













The black paint may hide it a bit more, but the rake is there. The back clearly sits a bit higher in every pro-kit install i have seen on the net (on the 1 series anyway).

With that being said, as long as you like how your car looks and drives, thats all that matters. Enjoy your car.
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So I don't get it. Do people like the rake or don't like the rake? To me, it doesn't really matter, as long as you love the feel and the ride. Are there any benefits to having no rake vs. rake?
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      04-07-2014, 07:01 PM   #47
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So I don't get it. Do people like the rake or don't like the rake? To me, it doesn't really matter, as long as you love the feel and the ride. Are there any benefits to having no rake vs. rake?
I personally like the stance even. Tom Jones may like it with a slight rake. Thats the beauty of this modding game, you like what you like. Thats all that matters.
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while i wouldnt say "considerable", I agree with the i128, there is some rake. Every pic I have seen on the net has shown the rake. Front tires are almost always just ready to tuck, where the rear wheel has a considerable wheel gap.
With that being said, as long as you like how your car looks and drives, thats all that matters. Enjoy your car.
There is rake in the stock suspension, too. If there wasn't, after adding a driver and passenger you'd be plowing through the air with negative rake creating lift.
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      04-07-2014, 07:40 PM   #49
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There is rake in the stock suspension, too. If there wasn't, after adding a driver and passenger you'd be plowing through the air with negative rake creating lift.
Huh?

Stock 135 below



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      04-07-2014, 07:51 PM   #50
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Huh?
Measure the actual distances front and rear at the side skirts and you'll see a difference. Even in your photos I can see it. What I'm NOT talking about is wheel to fender gap.
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      04-07-2014, 08:24 PM   #51
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Measure the actual distances front and rear at the side skirts and you'll see a difference. Even in your photos I can see it. What I'm NOT talking about is wheel to fender gap.
ok, then im talking wheel gap.

Listen, Im not trying to argue with anyone. People like what they like. All I am saying is the pro-kit doesnt have an even wheel gap. Thats all.
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      04-07-2014, 08:37 PM   #52
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ok, then im talking wheel gap.

Listen, Im not trying to argue with anyone. People like what they like. All I am saying is the pro-kit doesnt have an even wheel gap. Thats all.
I'm not trying to argue, either. just pointing something out.
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      04-11-2014, 01:21 PM   #53
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Another HUGE fan of the B12 Pro-Kit here. IMHO it's the best suspension upgrade you can make for a DD. Significant reduction in suspension lean and squat under heavy throttle, great road feel, and very little compromise in day to day comfort. I have utilized Bilstien in a number of my vechicles, from an FJ60 Land Cruiser to a fully tuned B5 S4, and they have always delivered.
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      04-11-2014, 04:20 PM   #54
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Another HUGE fan of the B12 Pro-Kit here. IMHO it's the best suspension upgrade you can make for a DD. Significant reduction in suspension lean and squat under heavy throttle, great road feel, and very little compromise in day to day comfort. I have utilized Bilstien in a number of my vechicles, from an FJ60 Land Cruiser to a fully tuned B5 S4, and they have always delivered.
You have the exact suspension I was aiming to get done on my car, B12 kit, M3 FSB, and Subframe bushings. How do you like the complete setup?

I don't do track days, just 3-4 autocross sessions a year. Are the bushings worth it?
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      04-12-2014, 11:47 PM   #55
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In a word, yes!
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Man this thread really has me thinking about the B12 kit. Knowing the factory struts go out around 60k, I was planning on going with the BMW PS. I want something firmer with a slight drop over stock but I absolutely do NOT want a stiff / jarring / slammed ride. My daily commute is 80 miles round trip through 3 states (NJ/NY/CT) so comfort and not bottoming out are key.

I had Koni and Eibachs on my previous car and even on the softer setting I found the ride to be a little unsettling on small uneven bumps. I also considered the FSD's but I don't care for the frequent rebuilds. Yes I know, I want my cake and want to devour it too.
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      04-29-2014, 10:40 AM   #57
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Was able to take advantage of the improving weather in the pacific NW and reminded myself how much more I enjoy my 135 with the upgrades I've made. Every aspect of the car is improved with little to no trade off. For someone looking for a set it and forget it suspension I highly recommend the B12 pro kit and M3 rear subframe bushings. Combined with the M3 front swaybar and non run flat tires it's just about perfect.
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+1 for the B12 kit. Really good bang for your buck purchase. Completed the install with two friends along with Whiteline RSFB and the difference is night and day. Body roll is reduced, the car feels composed and controlled.

My recommendation is to remove the stock run flats soon after if not before the B12 install. The ride is quite harsh with the run flats still on.

Best price I could find is here: http://www.ajusa.com/Bilstein-46-180...it-acb089.html (Tip: Ask about drop-shipping direct from Bilstein)

Here are some pictures of the kit, Bilstein makes high quality products and it shows.



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      04-30-2014, 10:03 PM   #59
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+1 for the B12 kit. Really good bang for your buck purchase. Completed the install with two friends along with Whiteline RSFB and the difference is night and day. Body roll is reduced, the car feels composed and controlled.
Where did you buy those Whiteline bushes from - they used to be Yellow, not black. Im confused
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      04-30-2014, 11:27 PM   #60
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I just got my whiteline rsfb in the mail today and they are black as well. Part Number KDT917. Got the from kamispeed. com
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Where did you buy those Whiteline bushes from - they used to be Yellow, not black. Im confused
They changed from yellow to black, same product. This is where I ordered from, shipped same day and received them in 2 days. http://www.aftermarketsuspensionparts.com/
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+1 for the B12 kit. Really good bang for your buck purchase. Completed the install with two friends along with Whiteline RSFB and the difference is night and day. Body roll is reduced, the car feels composed and controlled.

My recommendation is to remove the stock run flats soon after if not before the B12 install. The ride is quite harsh with the run flats still on.

Best price I could find is here: http://www.ajusa.com/Bilstein-46-180...it-acb089.html (Tip: Ask about drop-shipping direct from Bilstein)

Here are some pictures of the kit, Bilstein makes high quality products and it shows.




How would you describe the ride? What I am trying to avoid with lowering the car is that choppy or jumpy or pogo stick like ride. ?

Also how much did the kit lower your car ?
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The ride is firm but not choppy or harsh. Overall the best word to describe the ride is planted. The install reduced the height on my 135i approximately one inch.
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The ride is firm but not choppy or harsh. Overall the best word to describe the ride is planted. The install reduced the height on my 135i approximately one inch.
Would you say it feels like a proper sports car, as in the handling is buttoned down and not sloppy and loose?
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Would you say it feels like a proper sports car, as in the handling is buttoned down and not sloppy and loose?
Yes, the car feels just right.
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The ride is firm but not choppy or harsh. Overall the best word to describe the ride is planted. The install reduced the height on my 135i approximately one inch.
Would you say it feels like a proper sports car, as in the handling is buttoned down and not sloppy and loose?
Definitely, very little body roll. Like I said earlier the car just feels transformed and planted. It also eliminated nose dive under heavy braking and squat during heavy acceleration. Keep in mind I also run M3 rear subframe bushings. In fact the only downside is my DTC is more active than before the install. I attribute that to both COBB and my tendency to grab a lot more throttle coming out of corners. Time to start thinking about a real LSD. :-)
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