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1M/M3 tie rods on a 135i ?
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I am about to do the M3 front control arms and thrust rods on my 135i. My tie rods are pretty rusty... so I thought I'd might as well replace the tie rods "while I am in there". I was thinking maybe I should upgrade to the M3 tie rods? Is this possible? Do they bolt up? The one negative thing is that the 135i tie rods from LEMFÖRDER only cost 48 euros for the complete link WITH the bellows and clamps while the M3 links cost about 130 euros for just the tie rod link(no bellows). Hummm... decisions. I'm leaning to just go with 135i tie rods... but I am open to any opinions. Dackel
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The M3 and stock outer tie rods honestly look identical. Don't waste your money here. Last edited by bbnks2; 08-07-2019 at 11:25 AM.. |
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You could also look at the Meyle HD tie rods. Not sure if its worth the effort tho. I have a set I need to install but decided to wait until the stock tie rods start showing wear.
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thanks, Dackel
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07-01-2019, 12:42 PM | #6 |
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Not sure there's any real difference between the M rods and 135i other than length. I'd definitely recommend the HD, I like the endlinks quite a bit.
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Thanks guys for the input. A quick Google search and I found the part numbers for the MEYLE HD tie rods... The complete tie rods are part numbers: 316 030 0017/HD and 316 030 0018/HD Its weird that they specify a Left & Right tie rod, bc BMW does not. At least not on RealOEM.com Since I am living in Germany I order a lot of my car parts from AutoDoc.de they have very good prices and quality OEM parts. Not sure IF they ship to the USA but I like using them over here. MEYLE-HD Quality, Vorderachse rechts (right side tie rod) Artikelnummer: 316 030 0018/HD Fahrzeugverwendungsnummer(n): MTA0162HD EAN-Nummer(n): 4040074488942 https://www.autodoc.de/meyle/2121541 found here... https://www.meyle.com/en/service-cen...ine-catalogue/ I just plugged in: BMW e82, then scrolled down to 135i 225KW(306 PS) for my car. I was gonna go with the Febi Bilstein tie rod kit since it comes with the rubber bellows and clamps. But I am not sure IF it is also a HD or just OE part. Interesting its the same part for left and right while the Meyle unit HAS a left and right designation. ? Febi/Bilstein... ProKit, Vorderachse rechts Artikelnummer: 40516 Fahrzeugverwendungsnummer(n): 40516 EAN-Nummer(n): 4027816405160 https://www.autodoc.de/febi-bilstein/7538871 And I also found that TRW also makes a HD tie rod assembly as well. Humm decisions, decisions. TRW TRW Spurstange mit Zubehör Artikelnummer: JRA561 & JRA560 Fahrzeugverwendungsnummer(n): JRA561 EAN-Nummer(n): 3322937557639 https://www.autodoc.de/trw/2200155 The prices are all about the same... just under 98 euros for a pair of tie rods. I just found that Meyle also sells the boot/clamps kit separately... 300 620 0000 for 6,31 € each MEYLE Faltenbalgsatz, Lenkung Vorderachse rechts, Vorderachse links, Thermoplast, mit Zubehör, MEYLE-ORIGINAL Quality Artikelnummer: 300 620 0000 Fahrzeugverwendungsnummer(n): MSK0019 Also... One other question... When you guys installed your (complete)tie rods, the inner and outer... is there a washer that you need to crimp/bend over to prevent the tie rod from unscrewing from the rack? Or did you just use some blue thread loctite ? Dack
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I'm a pretty big fan of TRW consistency in quality control. Not sure if Meyle matches but I'd imagine they do. I also use a lot of Febi parts and they are fine, but I'd assume it's a standard part unless HD is specified.
That said... What does HD actually mean? I always wondered if it was just a marketing ploy.
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Upon further parts searching... it looks like all of the above tie rods ARE HD units. I went back and found just the regular OEM parts on that site as well. I think I will order the TRW ones, since my front suspension ///M bits are also TRW units. And I will order two of the rubber bellow kits from Meyle. One other thought... there is one other company that is well known for suspension parts and that is: LEMFÖRDER. They also make tie rods but are slightly more expensive at ~15 to 20 euros more per tie rod. Not sure why the added costs. But I thought I would mention this. Dack
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May be circumstance but I think the cost is higher for whatever company produces that particular OE part for BMW. Then a bit lower for those not the primary distributors. Seems to vary by part.
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Just thought I'd update your guys... I ended up ordering the TRW HD tie rods and Meyle replacement rubber bellows kit.
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There are left and right outer tie rods. Really the only difference is the pinch bolt. With left and right versions, the pinch bolt will be towards the front on both sides.
Good choice on TRW. They seem to make good quality OEM suspension parts. I should also say, you are going to love the M front arms. What a beautiful difference they make. |
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In the front I only have installed the Dina camber plates(another 0.75 degrees of neg camber) and I am amazed on how much better the front end grips. Under steer is gone. I am a little worried IF I will have too much negative camber when I install the front M control arms and thrust rods. I'm trusting so many 1Addicts can't all be wrong! Dackel
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Dinan camber plates... factory slots at the body/strut area... So I guess the way I will have to adjust camber(side to side) is by loosening the upper strut bearing and sliding the strut in or out. ? Right now I have them all the way in(to the engine). But I guess my shop might have to play around with them to get an equal L->R camber value. ? Dack
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I installed the 1M strut bar brace too with the ///M hats. All new bolts as well. Looks good. Car handles really well right now. But I still get that "wobble" feeling at really high speeds when I go over a dip or bump at say 130 mph or more. You can feel the front end toe change and the suspension goes thru it's compression and rebound. I hope the ///M control arms eliminate that. Dack
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