Run in service

[arvinz]

Just dropped my car off at the dealership for it's run in service. Here are the details for the service. Can someone confirm everything is correct?

*Note I am in Canada, not sure if it's different for U.S. or Europe

[Franklin Joseph]

^ looks to be correct.

#583 is the fm booster fluid.
i have a #83 22 1 467 993 that's suppose to be the saf-xj diff fluid.

am i confusing diff fluids?

[firechicken99]

Funny that in Canada as you are paying they make sure to do the tranny fluid change lol. with BMWNA paying for it they leave that out

[Dackelone]

^^+2.

Looks all good to me!

#07510017866 = Motor oil SAE 5W-30 Longlife 01
#11427566327 = Oil filter kit N54/N55
#83222282583 = Castrol SAF-XJ diff fluid 500ml bottle(s)
#83222156969 = MTF-LT-5 transmision oil

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by firechicken99

Funny that in Canada as you are paying they make sure to do the tranny fluid change lol. with BMWNA paying for it they leave that out

Only... BMW NA says the trans oil is not needed to be changed @1,200 miles. Every where else in the world... including BMW AG, they say to replace it at 1,200 miles.

Who do you think knows more? BMW NA or....


IF I owned a 1M... I would change all the fluids myself at 1,200 miles. That way I know the job was done and it was done correctly!

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by arvinz

Just dropped my car off at the dealership for it's run in service. Here are the details for the service. Can someone confirm everything is correct?

*Note I am in Canada, not sure if it's different for U.S. or Europe

Hi arvinz,

How come I don't see any labor times/rates on that reciept? I only see parts billed out?


Btw... $372 Canadian dollars doesn't seem that bad. I remember reading some of the M3 guys whp paid out of pocket over here in Germany for this service. I seem to remember one guy paying close to 500 euros. 470 euros I think. Thats about $700 in USd.

[arvinz]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

Hi arvinz,

How come I don't see any labor times/rates on that reciept? I only see parts billed out?


Btw... $372 Canadian dollars doesn't seem that bad. I remember reading some of the M3 guys whp paid out of pocket over here in Germany for this service. I seem to remember one guy paying close to 500 euros. 470 euros I think. Thats about $700 in USd.

I think I'll be getting the actual invoice/receipt after the service is done...this sheet was just so I could see what was going in/out of the vehicle...I'll post the receipt when I pick up the vehicle later today.

This service is covered though, so I'm not paying anything for it.

[John Dunn]

Almost identical invoice to mine - only difference is my right hand column says WARRANTY, WARRANTY etc. In other words, at least at my dealer here in Canada the run- in service is free. So arvinz, feel good about the work but bad about the price, and firechicken99, be careful with your generalizations since I am very much a Canadian in the province of Alberta !

[arvinz]

Dackelone,

Here is my receipt for the run in service:

[John Dunn]

Your actual invoice for run-in service is identical to mine. As a quick summary to firechicken99 (and Dackelone also), BMWNA encompasses the USA, Canada and Mexico. BMW Canada DOES NOT charge for run-in service yet DOES change transmission fluid.

[firechicken99]

Originally Posted by John Dunn

Your actual invoice for run-in service is identical to mine. As a quick summary to firechicken99 (and Dackelone also), BMWNA encompasses the USA, Canada and Mexico. BMW Canada DOES NOT charge for run-in service yet DOES change transmission fluid.

That's horse $#!%

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by arvinz

Dackelone,

Here is my receipt for the run in service:

^^ Looks like they did everything correctly.


I think you have found a good dealer.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

^^ Looks like they did everything correctly.


I think you have found a good dealer.

I am happy to report that Classic BMW here in the DFW area got my car sorted properly this week by changing the motor oil and the trans fluid that were used previously. LT-5 for the win. All was handled under warranty, so.. at 2600 miles.. my car has had 2 oil changes.

[1SerieStud]

So I got my 1200 mile service performed yesterday, which was done at about 1130 miles. Upon leaving the dealer, I couldn't help but to give the car a push for the first time (MDM + Sport) and all I can say is wow! For those of you who got the service done before the 1200 mile mark, did you wait exactly until 1200 miles before pushing the car, or did you start having fun right away? I ask because I was VERY disciplined all the way until the service was performed - no revs past 5500rpms, no WOT, and I didn't even push the M button or DSC button until yesterday. I'm sure +-50 miles couldn't possibly hurt the break in period, but just checking to see who actually gave into temptation

[firechicken99]

Originally Posted by 1SerieStud

..... I'm sure +-50 miles couldn't possibly hurt the break in period, but just checking to see who actually gave into temptation

Where are you located? Did they change the tranny fluid?

I kept it under 45k until about 750, then i let it breath up to 5500 under LIGHT throttle, no WOT, etc. I hit 1000 the other day and have been revving it up to 5500 (including getting the revs up and letting the car slow itself back down in gear. Heard its good to make some backpressure against the piston rings by doing this. or something to that extend )

I havent done any WOT but I have done some slightly more aggressive launches (I dont know if id say launch because they werent very fast but..) as well as some 1/2-3/4 throttle racking through the gears while revving through to 5500 and faster shifting. I did start playing with the M button and Mdiff after about 750 but again, under gentle acceleration. Just because you have those pressed doesnt mean you have to go WOT etc. I couldnt help it early on and kept the revs moving around, not staying in one gear too long, but taking curves at faster than average speeds. They didnt say to not take turns at a lower G rate before the suspension breaks in

Personally, I felt it beneficial to get some of those higher revs and have the turbos spooling a bit during break in before all of the fluids get swapped. But thats just me.

The car is simply amazing to drive and I am itching worse than a kid in a candy shop to launch in first and WOT through the gears!!

[1SerieStud]

Originally Posted by firechicken99

Where are you located? Did they change the tranny fluid?

I kept it under 45k until about 750, then i let it breath up to 5500 under LIGHT throttle, no WOT, etc. I hit 1000 the other day and have been revving it up to 5500 (including getting the revs up and letting the car slow itself back down in gear. Heard its good to make some backpressure against the piston rings by doing this. or something to that extend )

I havent done any WOT but I have done some slightly more aggressive launches (I dont know if id say launch because they werent very fast but..) as well as some 1/2-3/4 throttle racking through the gears while revving through to 5500 and faster shifting. I did start playing with the M button and Mdiff after about 750 but again, under gentle acceleration. Just because you have those pressed doesnt mean you have to go WOT etc. I couldnt help it early on and kept the revs moving around, not staying in one gear too long, but taking curves at faster than average speeds. They didnt say to not take turns at a lower G rate before the suspension breaks in

Personally, I felt it beneficial to get some of those higher revs and have the turbos spooling a bit during break in before all of the fluids get swapped. But thats just me.

The car is simply amazing to drive and I am itching worse than a kid in a candy shop to launch in first and WOT through the gears!!

I agree, I also had a gradual increase in rpm's as the miles started racking up. And yes, your engine will be grateful if you grant it some under-load pressure because this helps the piston rings sit/seal properly and eliminates the possibility of oil consumption.

My question was more along the lines of: I just had my 1200 mile service performed at 1130 miles (a little under 1200). BMW considers +-100 miles to be within tolerance for the service, so once the service was complete, the tech told me I could finally open up the car, even thought it wasn't quite at 1200 miles.

By the way, first service does not include transmission fluid change. Those who got it done ended up with the wrong fluid because mtf-lt5 is not even available for order nationally, so they had to then wait for their respective dealers to order the proper fluid from Germany and wait for its arrival.

[firechicken99]

Originally Posted by 1SerieStud

My question was more along the lines of: I just had my 1200 mile service performed at 1130 miles (a little under 1200). BMW considers +-100 miles to be within tolerance for the service, so once the service was complete, the tech told me I could finally open up the car, even thought it wasn't quite at 1200 miles.

By the way, first service does not include transmission fluid change. Those who got it done ended up with the wrong fluid because mtf-lt5 is not even available for order nationally, so they had to then wait for their respective dealers to order the proper fluid from Germany and wait for its arrival.

I am sure you're fine doing so at 1130 bud. Had it been as 113 it might of been a different story!

Did you have your tranny fluid changed? Did they have to wait for it?

[1SerieStud]

Originally Posted by firechicken99

I am sure you're fine doing so at 1130 bud. Had it been as 113 it might of been a different story!

Did you have your tranny fluid changed? Did they have to wait for it?

No man, tranny fluid change is not part of the 1200 mile service. Like I said before, those who got it done, it was by mistake and ended up with the wrong fluid. BMW released a bulletin months ago stating that the transmission fluid gets changed on the 3rd service (~31200 miles). To answer your other question, lt5 is not readily available, so even though they will not change the tranny fluid on the 1200 mile service under warranty, even if you requested it and paid out of pocket, they would still have to order the fluid from Germany at this point in time.

As these 1M's begin to stack up miles, I'm positive the fluid will be made available at a national level.

[firechicken99]

Originally Posted by 1SerieStud

No man, tranny fluid change is not part of the 1200 mile service. Like I said before, those who got it done, it was by mistake and ended up with the wrong fluid. BMW released a bulletin months ago stating that the transmission fluid gets changed on the 3rd service (~31200 miles). To answer your other question, lt5 is not readily available, so even though they will not change the tranny fluid on the 1200 mile service under warranty, even if you requested it and paid out of pocket, they would still have to order the fluid from Germany at this point in time.

As these 1M's begin to stack up miles, I'm positive the fluid will be made available at a national level.

True. Thanks for the additional heads up. I fully plan on having my MTF changed during run in service. The rest of the world does it, I don't see why I "shouldn't" (according to BMWNA).

[1SerieStud]

Originally Posted by firechicken99

True. Thanks for the additional heads up. I fully plan on having my MTF changed during run in service. The rest of the world does it, I don't see why I "shouldn't" (according to BMWNA).

Here is what I've been told about the rest of the world's services: since they have to pay for all their services (not inclusive for 50k miles/4 years), they make them do the transmission fluid change and collect more money by doing this. Quite frankly, I do not believe it to be necessary, and like you I wanted to be thorough and have it done, but it was going to result in more of a hassle than following BMW's recommendation.

If you still plan on this, make sure you call them a good week ahead of time, and try to convince them to order the fluid and contact you when it arrives.

[firechicken99]

Originally Posted by 1SerieStud

Here is what I've been told about the rest of the world's services: since they have to pay for all their services (not inclusive for 50k miles/4 years), they make them do the transmission fluid change and collect more money by doing this. Quite frankly, I do not believe it to be necessary, and like you I wanted to be thorough and have it done, but it was going to result in more of a hassle than following BMW's recommendation.

If you still plan on this, make sure you call them a good week ahead of time, and try to convince them to order the fluid and contact you when it arrives.

I plan on it. While they do want all the money they can get, some part of me just feels like it doesn't seem right all the other critical fluids are change, but our precious dry sump LT5 fluid doesnt.

Besides, I think we all know the truth about anything BMW has which they call "life time" lol

[bvez3ro]

My Run-in-service is scheduled for next week. What diff. fluid should be used SAF-XJ or SAF-XJ (FM)? My Dealer never heard of the diff fluid with friction modifier. Thx