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      05-19-2012, 02:55 PM   #1
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Charge pipe cracked

So to my charge pipe blew off and when I went to put it back I noticed that it actually cracked off! The clip and sleeve is still attached but the pipe is hanging loose off. I'm scheduling an appointment for Monday but just wanted to know if it's bad to drive it to the dealer about 15 miles away with the pipe off? Also it's under warranty correct? Thanks.
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      05-19-2012, 08:04 PM   #2
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So to my charge pipe blew off and when I went to put it back I noticed that it actually cracked off! The clip and sleeve is still attached but the pipe is hanging loose off. I'm scheduling an appointment for Monday but just wanted to know if it's bad to drive it to the dealer about 15 miles away with the pipe off? Also it's under warranty correct? Thanks.
If you stay out of boost, you should be ok for drive to dealer.

The stock charge pipe is a pos -- it either pops off or breaks.

Lots of good aftermarket alternatives out there.

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      05-19-2012, 09:24 PM   #3
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If you stay out of boost, you should be ok for drive to dealer.

The stock charge pipe is a pos -- it either pops off or breaks.

Lots of good aftermarket alternatives out there.

Neil
If I swap to an aftermarket one will it affect my warranty?
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If I swap to an aftermarket one will it affect my warranty?
That's between you and your dealer (and, in turn, BMWNA).

Obviously, you'd lose your warranty coverage for the charge pipe.

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      05-19-2012, 10:19 PM   #5
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Get a EvoWorks Chargepipe.
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      05-20-2012, 11:47 AM   #6
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Better a charge pipe cracked than a crack pipe and charged!
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      05-20-2012, 12:24 PM   #7
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This seems to be very common with 1M's.

I wonder IF BMW designed the charge pipe intentionally to break/crack instead of something more expensive like a intercooler or turbo vane(s) ???

I remember years ago when I had a Calloway turbo'd VW the spark plugs were designed to MELT before the pistons! No kidding.
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To those that have changed your own was it a PITA? How long did it take you?

http://www.topgearsolutions.com/evran54chpi.html
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To those that have changed your own was it a PITA? How long did it take you?

http://www.topgearsolutions.com/evran54chpi.html
Really simple job. Maybe 45 minutes.

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      05-20-2012, 01:18 PM   #10
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To those that have changed your own was it a PITA? How long did it take you?
Real easy and I'm a novice when it comes to these things. Took me about an hour to install mine.

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Thanks guys. My knuckles are torn up from wrenching so I'm glad to hear this.
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the stock airbox just pulls off right? no screws or bolts?
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Sure does.
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      05-20-2012, 06:41 PM   #14
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Only trick is to reach behind the lower part of the airbox (on corner facing firewall toward drivers side) to pull the cables up and off. Also, you need to remove the diverter valves. Once that's done, it's cake.

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the stock charge pipe cracks and comes off with stock boost or with tunes and higher boost?
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whats the best charge pipe replacement kit
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      05-21-2012, 08:25 AM   #17
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whats the best charge pipe replacement kit
Not really a kit, just a single piece.

I like the Evolution Racewerks and CP-E designs best.

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That's between you and your dealer (and, in turn, BMWNA).

Obviously, you'd lose your warranty coverage for the charge pipe.

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At dealer now, I asked about an aftermarket pipe so I wouldn't have to keep coming in, he said it would affect my warranty so don't do it till the warranty is over. Anyone else have. Different conversation with their dealership?
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I mean fact is that if you replace it you wont have to go into the dealer. Or you can keep going in and having it fixed. Nothing can void any warranty unless it is proven after diagnosis to have created the issue.
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I mean fact is that if you replace it you wont have to go into the dealer. Or you can keep going in and having it fixed. Nothing can void any warranty unless it is proven after diagnosis to have created the issue.
I went to my dealer for an oil change and to get the wastegates looked at and all I have installed is the ER CP; he comes back and says this voids your warranty with this installed. Put me in the system that modifications were done to the car and now can't get anything replaced under warranty (engine wise). I responded, "If anything was wrong with the car and that piece didn't cause the issue it would still be voided?" He said, yep. I was going to fight with him but decided it's not really worth my time when nothing was apparently wrong with the engine. So yea, depends on your dealer.
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At dealer now, I asked about an aftermarket pipe so I wouldn't have to keep coming in, he said it would affect my warranty so don't do it till the warranty is over. Anyone else have. Different conversation with their dealership?
Can we make a sticky for this topic on every forum please. You can install ANY aftermarket part and by LAW it will not void warranty. The case that set this president was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuso...s_Warranty_Act. Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act

Here is the catch with that. It is up to the dealer / company to prove the part caused the failure. That means while the LAW is on your side it comes down to HOW MUCH FIGHTING you are willing to do. While you could ultimately win and show the part did not cause the "said failure". It is how much time and effort are you willing to put in to prove you case.
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Of course they don't want anything modded but in my opinion if a part is obviously poorly designed it isn't worth leaving alone when it could cost someone a day (or more) worth of track time. They certainly won't compensate us for a DE if it breaks and ends an event.
Excerpt of page 27 of the "BMW 1M Supplementary Owner's Manual 2011 (USA)" (available in the manuals sticky: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showp...82&postcount=1):
"Driving on a race track
BMW recommends the following measures before driving on a race track:
- Participate in a BMW driver training course
- Have the vehicle checked by your BMW center
Operation on race tracks results in a higher rate of wear. The BMW 1-Series M Coupe is not designed for use in competitive motor sports. This wear is not covered by the vehicle warranty.
The series brake pads and wear indicator are not designed for operation on a race track. Your BMW center will be glad to advise you."
They're on standby to use the "We told ya" defense.
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