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The YouTube vid says it did the ring in 7:58. I checked Wiki for ring times and the 1M shows 8:15. Nice!!!!
Did anyone notice the GoPro app in the M2 vid? That looks interesting.
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overall the m2 looks like a good car, could of been a great car (less weight, better styling at the rear, better interior) but we all know it cant be better than a m3/4
as for if a CSL/GTS model we all know they would want huge money for it just like the m4 GTS which cost more than a 991 GT3.....i know what i rather have |
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I'm still happy with my choice and I continue to love my car. Just because the M2 is out doesn't mean I love my 1M any less or the car is any less good.
It's like your wife, you love her unconditionally..you're not just going to dump her for a new model--or, wait...hmmm.. All jokes aside, love your car, remember the day you picked it up and also thank BMW for continuing to support the 3rd pedal with newer cars. |
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10-14-2015, 04:47 PM | #28 |
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I agree with a lot of thoughts on this thread -
One thing that makes the 1M so special is it was the last modern M car to be build without EPS or iDrive as standard. Likewise the suspension and steering weren't adjustable, and there was no option for an automatic transmission or DCT. This perceived lack of complication adds up to a simplicity which, for me, creates an analog feeling I don't think I'd get in a M3 or M4. Or the new M2. Now I think the M2 looks awesome. BMW hit a home run IMO. If I had my old Z4, or a 135i / M235i right now, I would get in line for a M2 after seeing yesterday's reveal. It's going to be a great car. But it certainly won't convince me to sell my 1M. Beginning to think I'll never sell!
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I had high hopes for it but this time it left me cold. The body lines and body shape is modern and elegant but not bold or striking.
The 1M's styling is bold and in your face and its compactness really shines in this modern era of M cars which is becoming more commercially restraint and getting fatter and bigger with each generation. The 1M is a keeper and will be a modern classic. The M2 is not. |
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From driving dynamics perspective, I have driven the 1M and 235 side by side for over a year now and if the M-Division's M3/4 parts bin step changes from 235 to M2 are at least similar to 135 to 1M, I dare say the M2 would be an awesome car to drive. The 235 as it's base car is a good drivers car. Sure, the M2 should lack the hydraulic steering response and go-kartish feel of the 1M but I'm confident that the M3/4 underpinnings should provide good driving dynamics and response through to the driver. I'm looking forward to driving one. That said, I would find the ASD annoying as I do in the 235.
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From looks perspective... my wife often says that 235 is handsome, 1M is sexy. I don't necessarily share her view. I don't always think the 235 is all good looking. However I disagree with some comments that the 1M looks dated compared to 235 and now M2.
The 235/M2 definitely have more curves and lines than the 135/1M and with its flares, I would say the M2 makes the 1M look bland rather than dated. |
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10-14-2015, 08:23 PM | #32 |
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I have tried very hard to find one compelling reason to ditch either car for the M2 but have yet to find one... especially the 1M it's a keeper for life.
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if I were you I'd ditch the M235 for the M2. When I drove the M235 I wasn't impressed at all....you've had more seat time with it than I have but it felt disconnected and very ordinary to me. I'm sure the M2 will fix that!! Glad you are keeping the 1M though!!! good decision |
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I think the car is a winner for sure but personally I am not loving a lot of the design elements. Way too much x6m going on in this car. I think they could have done a better job.
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Point of view from a 128 owner if considering an upgrade to an M car.
I watched the video that BMW released and had mixed feelings. My initial thought was that it still looked a bit plain to me but I liked the performance. Kinda like when the new GTO was revealed, a lot of power, but not very attractive. I love the more angular and distinct lines of the 1 series, and those are only made more aggressive in the 1M. The M2 appeared only slightly more aggressive than the M235i and kept much of the "rounded" features that were only enlarged. I also agree with most folks that the added technology only detracts from the overall package to me, but, this is the future I guess. So the real question for me is would I get in line for the new M2 or hunt down a used 1M... I think 1M at this point. ///M
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I think it will depend on your priorities. Having a new car warranty provides peace of mind. But if your priority is more of a longterm, relatively unfiltered driving experience, then the 1M is more likely to check the right boxes.
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let me try to provide some perspective. An E30 M3 Sport Evolution (one of THE most desirable BMWs ever made) takes 8m 45s to lap the ring.....but I can assure it would be a faaaar more enjoyable and rewarding driving experience than the M2 which would do it 47 seconds faster. I don't think lap times should be associated with the enjoyment of the car.....do they assess technical ability?? yes! do they assess enjoyment? not at all. |
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I think due to the Internet people have developed short attention spans so assessing a car based on a number (lap time) has become an easy way to compare-----but before the Internet people loved cars based on how they drove not by comparing it to a database of ring lap times! |
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