Riss Racing Intake Huge Gains Dyno Proven

Jai2008 · 10-26-2008, 05:48 AM

Sorry, my apologies for doubting you. Did not realized that you are the same person that cried on the forum about Dinan but now is their biggest fanboi. I really do hope the intake works for you or god knows about many posts you are going to make about it.You already made 3 trying to praise it. I thank you for caring about the Canadian dollar but I am doing alright. How about yourself? You sure you can afford to mod a car? I get worried whenever I think back to the tantrum you threw over a $2000 mod.

No where on the dyno thread shows a stock intake vs a Riss or whoever's intake on the same car. Since you are going to be 3-4 tenths faster with an intake alone. I guess we'll soon be seeing 10s from you with catless DP, catless exhaust, DR, a super special Dinan tune and some stickers.

arrutled · 10-26-2008, 07:23 AM

whats up with all the hate?

esscolab · 10-26-2008, 07:44 AM

I'm more than happy with the AFE and the Superchip, Screw the Riss racing intake.

crzy4135i · 10-26-2008, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by arrutled

whats up with all the hate?

Yea, maybe that's why 7 of 29 total posts of his are in locked threads. You may not like someone's spelling and grammer but at least they're sharing info from modding, etc. Some of us appreciate whatever info we can get.

Jai2008 · 10-26-2008, 08:31 AM

When you hype up a product this much, you need some sort of prove/data. Something that shows the benefits of the aftermarket over stock. This has none, this is more a thread or should I say 3 threads for him to rant how he wasted his savings on one intake.

frimmelnojerz · 10-26-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LMB135i

Prove what? You need a stock filter/intake vs " enter brand name here " filter/intake on the same day/car/dyno to prove anything.

This only proves that one filter is put in correctly/working as intended and the other one is not. By working as intended, I am not saying it is better than the stock.

P.S
I also don't think this topic warrants 3 different posts....

you win "most well thought out post of saturday" award.

exactly. no one said it was worse than AFE. They said it was worse than stock. Thats been the big question. and i'd sure like to know what happened to your HP/TQ at the end of that graph.

WhiteOne · 10-26-2008, 03:09 PM

You got 12HP & 61ft lb of torque by changing from the AFE intake to the RR intake? Is this what you are saying? I just want to be clear about it.

frimmelnojerz · 10-26-2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LMB135i

Sorry, my apologies for doubting you. Did not realized that you are the same person that cried on the forum about Dinan but now is their biggest fanboi. I really do hope the intake works for you or god knows about many posts you are going to make about it.You already made 3 trying to praise it. I thank you for caring about the Canadian dollar but I am doing alright. How about yourself? You sure you can afford to mod a car? I get worried whenever I think back to the tantrum you threw over a $2000 mod.

No where on the dyno thread shows a stock intake vs a Riss or whoever's intake on the same car. Since you are going to be 3-4 tenths faster with an intake alone. I guess we'll soon be seeing 10s from you with catless DP, catless exhaust, DR, a super special Dinan tune and some stickers.

i've decided we should be friends.

Kris · 10-26-2008, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LMB135i

When you hype up a product this much, you need some sort of prove/data. Something that shows the benefits of the aftermarket over stock. This has none, this is more a thread or should I say 3 threads for him to rant how he wasted his savings on one intake.

I'm with LMB135 - where are the stock intake vs Riss intake ??

AlBel1214 · 10-26-2008, 04:37 PM

I appreciate the dyno to give some help if I had all of the other mods (especiallly the dinan upgrade)...but like some others have said it would be nice to see a dyno of the intake on a stock 135i...

Haywood · 10-26-2008, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LMB135i

When you hype up a product this much, you need some sort of prove/data. Something that shows the benefits of the aftermarket over stock. This has none, this is more a thread or should I say 3 threads for him to rant how he wasted his savings on one intake.

Oh, you're just bitter since your crappy Leafs haven't won the Cup since the '60's!

Johnnyr135 · 10-26-2008, 08:08 PM

The graphs are one e90post check them out, I did have a huge problem with DINAN and like I posted Steve fixed it so am I happy yes. And am I a fan of Riss yes I dyno'd 386 torque so yeah I am happy about that too. And I made another post anyone that thinks the afe is better and I messed up some how which is stupid I have owned almost 30 performance cars. I would bring there car and afe to ICS and we will dyno both intakes the winner pays for the dynos. But I think the dynos were fair I do not think there was a 60ftlbs difference in torque for 20 dfegrees of outside temp.

frimmelnojerz · 10-26-2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyr

The graphs are one e90post check them out, I did have a huge problem with DINAN and like I posted Steve fixed it so am I happy yes. And am I a fan of Riss yes I dyno'd 386 torque so yeah I am happy about that too. And I made another post anyone that thinks the afe is better and I messed up some how which is stupid I have owned almost 30 performance cars. I would bring there car and afe to ICS and we will dyno both intakes the winner pays for the dynos. But I think the dynos were fair I do not think there was a 60ftlbs difference in torque for 20 dfegrees of outside temp.

oh good. 4 threads about intakes. i cant wait to not read them.

adc · 10-27-2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyr

I ran a 338 whp and 325wtq that was my best run the warmer the car the lower the runs. I installed the Riss and saw a huge improvement as soon as I put it on night and day difference in power the car throws you into the seat and it should 350whp and 386wtq on the Dynojet at ICS performance

I understand your initial number was 338 and the intake seems to make 348 according to the graph. If that is correct, 10RWHP is decent but by no means "huge". In fact at that power level I would be extremely surprised if you could feel a 10 RWHP difference...

What am I missing?

Edit: Oops, seems others have asked similar questions...

arrutled · 10-27-2008, 12:28 PM

your missing the torque, its at 386! the hp does not reach huge numbers cause his dinan tune cuts down the pressure on his turbos at high rpms.

lannypoffo · 10-27-2008, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteOne

You got 12HP & 61ft lb of torque by changing from the AFE intake to the RR intake? Is this what you are saying? I just want to be clear about it.

nice gains from an intake!! :headbang:

frimmelnojerz · 10-27-2008, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lannypoffo

nice gains from an intake!! :headbang:

are you serious?

lannypoffo · 10-27-2008, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Frimmelnojerz

are you serious?

are you?

frimmelnojerz · 10-27-2008, 02:16 PM

seeing as how theres no conceivable way thats possible, yes i am serious. Can anyone pull their heads out of their asses for five minutes and understand that this is retarded. its an intake. theres nothing magical about it and as far as any logical human being is concerned there are no "gains" proven by anything. Only that there is a substantial loss by using the AFE intake IF THAT. let me get this straight. you buy a piggyback tune for 800 bucks that gives you 70hp and 75tq. It remaps your entire ECU, ups boost, pulls timing, all that good, complicated stuff and you get the hypothetical numbers above(70/75). different guy, same car gets an intake and gets 12hp AND 61 FUCKING POUNDS FEET OF TORQUE!!!1 are you for real? on NO planet can that happen. wheres all the torque coming from? is the magical intake fairy giving you her special blend of cotton on the filter that acts a third turbo? what the shit did you just do? you just throw it on the car and then BOOM 61 lbs feet of torque. that BMW was like oh they're never going to figure out the only thing holding this car back from being a scud missile is a owrgfoabwfuckinguvuseorgjn CONE!!! why the shit isnt everyone getting an intake then? why isnt riss racing charging a grand for it SINCE IT MAKES AS MUCH POWER AS A FLIPPIN PIGGYBACK TUNE. i just want to know. are you retarded or insane? just answer me that.

show me. show me the stock box and what it makes on a stock tune and a retune and then show me the difference any intake makes on the same car with the stock tune and same aftermarket tune. i will eat my words if you can get 61 lbs/ft out of a goddamn cone but i have a feeling it'll just be steak this evening.

i cant believe this place. is anyone listening or are we just waiting for the next guy to come along and say he's discovered that you get 400whp from adding vitamin water to your power steering rack?

lannypoffo · 10-27-2008, 02:27 PM

ROFL about how you wrote a huge paragraph based on my little joke.

JohnnyTT · 10-27-2008, 02:27 PM

Frimmel couldn't have said it better.

Yes, it's always good to hear when people are happy with their mods, and it makes them feel all warm and squishy inside.

But people need to realize that you need to do proper comparisons when making these claims.

1) same day within a few hours
2) same temperature
3) switch intakes and then do a few WOT runs to the car will adapt, just to be sure
4) let cool off
5) rinse and repeat

Also, it's been proven quite a few times, that the stock airbox isn't really a bottleneck till you get power WAY UP.

arrutled · 10-27-2008, 02:33 PM

maybe a better way to look at it is the intake allows the tune to function at its best?

10-26-2008, 05:48 AM	#23
Jai2008 Private 1 Rep 75 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	Sorry, my apologies for doubting you. Did not realized that you are the same person that cried on the forum about Dinan but now is their biggest fanboi. I really do hope the intake works for you or god knows about many posts you are going to make about it.You already made 3 trying to praise it. I thank you for caring about the Canadian dollar but I am doing alright. How about yourself? You sure you can afford to mod a car? I get worried whenever I think back to the tantrum you threw over a $2000 mod. No where on the dyno thread shows a stock intake vs a Riss or whoever's intake on the same car. Since you are going to be 3-4 tenths faster with an intake alone. I guess we'll soon be seeing 10s from you with catless DP, catless exhaust, DR, a super special Dinan tune and some stickers. __________________ Cobb \| Protuned by PTF \| AMS Intercooler \| BMS DCI \| ER Charge Pipe \| Synapse BOV \| Aquamist HFS-4 Meth \| UR Catless DP \| UR Mid-pipe and Exhaust \|
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10-26-2008, 07:23 AM	#24
arrutled Colonel 104 Rep 2,474 Posts Drives: Olsa Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Western Mass iTrader: (0)	whats up with all the hate? __________________ AW 135i w/ blackette, performance short shift kit, BMW alarm, Performance rotors, APEX ARC-8 wheels, Direzza Star Spec 235/275, Dinan stage 3 suspension, M3 wishbones/tension rods/front sway/rear subframe bushings and thats all folks!
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10-26-2008, 07:44 AM	#25
esscolab Brigadeer 74 Rep 728 Posts Drives: Black 135i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Colchester - UK iTrader: (0)	I'm more than happy with the AFE and the Superchip, Screw the Riss racing intake. __________________ Eibach Sports springs, Evole Remap, Quafe LSD, AR Downpipes, Forge FMIC, Hart'ge Quads, BMS Intake.
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10-26-2008, 08:31 AM	#27
Jai2008 Private 1 Rep 75 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	When you hype up a product this much, you need some sort of prove/data. Something that shows the benefits of the aftermarket over stock. This has none, this is more a thread or should I say 3 threads for him to rant how he wasted his savings on one intake. __________________ Cobb \| Protuned by PTF \| AMS Intercooler \| BMS DCI \| ER Charge Pipe \| Synapse BOV \| Aquamist HFS-4 Meth \| UR Catless DP \| UR Mid-pipe and Exhaust \|
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10-26-2008, 03:09 PM	#29
WhiteOne Major 28 Rep 1,000 Posts Drives: 2008 AW 135i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alabama iTrader: (0)	You got 12HP & 61ft lb of torque by changing from the AFE intake to the RR intake? Is this what you are saying? I just want to be clear about it.
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10-26-2008, 04:37 PM	#32
AlBel1214 Major 52 Rep 1,118 Posts Drives: past 135i, now c6, future M3?? Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Philly iTrader: (0)	I appreciate the dyno to give some help if I had all of the other mods (especiallly the dinan upgrade)...but like some others have said it would be nice to see a dyno of the intake on a stock 135i... __________________ -----LS3 C6----- *z51 suspension,* *NPP dual mode exhaust(wild2mild),20% tint,* zr1 replica wheels, gloss black fender stripes** R.I.P SGM 135i w/ some mods
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10-26-2008, 08:08 PM	#34
Johnnyr135 Captain 73 Rep 893 Posts Drives: BMW 135i Join Date: May 2008 Location: NY iTrader: (1)	The graphs are one e90post check them out, I did have a huge problem with DINAN and like I posted Steve fixed it so am I happy yes. And am I a fan of Riss yes I dyno'd 386 torque so yeah I am happy about that too. And I made another post anyone that thinks the afe is better and I messed up some how which is stupid I have owned almost 30 performance cars. I would bring there car and afe to ICS and we will dyno both intakes the winner pays for the dynos. But I think the dynos were fair I do not think there was a 60ftlbs difference in torque for 20 dfegrees of outside temp. __________________ 2008 BMW 135i, DINAN / Riss Racing / BMS
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10-27-2008, 12:28 PM	#37
arrutled Colonel 104 Rep 2,474 Posts Drives: Olsa Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Western Mass iTrader: (0)	your missing the torque, its at 386! the hp does not reach huge numbers cause his dinan tune cuts down the pressure on his turbos at high rpms. __________________ AW 135i w/ blackette, performance short shift kit, BMW alarm, Performance rotors, APEX ARC-8 wheels, Direzza Star Spec 235/275, Dinan stage 3 suspension, M3 wishbones/tension rods/front sway/rear subframe bushings and thats all folks!
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10-27-2008, 02:16 PM	#41
frimmelnojerz Captain 23 Rep 692 Posts Drives: Montego blue 135i Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bayonne, NJ iTrader: (0)	seeing as how theres no conceivable way thats possible, yes i am serious. Can anyone pull their heads out of their asses for five minutes and understand that this is retarded. its an intake. theres nothing magical about it and as far as any logical human being is concerned there are no "gains" proven by anything. Only that there is a substantial loss by using the AFE intake IF THAT. let me get this straight. you buy a piggyback tune for 800 bucks that gives you 70hp and 75tq. It remaps your entire ECU, ups boost, pulls timing, all that good, complicated stuff and you get the hypothetical numbers above(70/75). different guy, same car gets an intake and gets 12hp AND 61 FUCKING POUNDS FEET OF TORQUE!!!1 are you for real? on NO planet can that happen. wheres all the torque coming from? is the magical intake fairy giving you her special blend of cotton on the filter that acts a third turbo? what the shit did you just do? you just throw it on the car and then BOOM 61 lbs feet of torque. that BMW was like oh they're never going to figure out the only thing holding this car back from being a scud missile is a owrgfoabwfuckinguvuseorgjn CONE!!! why the shit isnt everyone getting an intake then? why isnt riss racing charging a grand for it SINCE IT MAKES AS MUCH POWER AS A FLIPPIN PIGGYBACK TUNE. i just want to know. are you retarded or insane? just answer me that. show me. show me the stock box and what it makes on a stock tune and a retune and then show me the difference any intake makes on the same car with the stock tune and same aftermarket tune. i will eat my words if you can get 61 lbs/ft out of a goddamn cone but i have a feeling it'll just be steak this evening. i cant believe this place. is anyone listening or are we just waiting for the next guy to come along and say he's discovered that you get 400whp from adding vitamin water to your power steering rack? __________________ 08' 135 in much need of some TLC. But after that... Watch out. AA/Berk/ER/UR/CP-e/Snow/ESS
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10-27-2008, 02:27 PM	#42
lannypoffo Lieutenant 20 Rep 564 Posts Drives: 2013 Dodge Charger SRT8 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Cali iTrader: (1)	ROFL about how you wrote a huge paragraph based on my little joke.
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10-27-2008, 02:27 PM	#43
JohnnyTT Captain 29 Rep 750 Posts Drives: 2011 X3 3.5 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: East Coast iTrader: (0)	Frimmel couldn't have said it better. Yes, it's always good to hear when people are happy with their mods, and it makes them feel all warm and squishy inside. But people need to realize that you need to do proper comparisons when making these claims. 1) same day within a few hours 2) same temperature 3) switch intakes and then do a few WOT runs to the car will adapt, just to be sure 4) let cool off 5) rinse and repeat Also, it's been proven quite a few times, that the stock airbox isn't really a bottleneck till you get power WAY UP.
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10-27-2008, 02:33 PM	#44
arrutled Colonel 104 Rep 2,474 Posts Drives: Olsa Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Western Mass iTrader: (0)	maybe a better way to look at it is the intake allows the tune to function at its best? __________________ AW 135i w/ blackette, performance short shift kit, BMW alarm, Performance rotors, APEX ARC-8 wheels, Direzza Star Spec 235/275, Dinan stage 3 suspension, M3 wishbones/tension rods/front sway/rear subframe bushings and thats all folks!
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