1M prices

phunky_monkey · 05-22-2016, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by T1M

That's never happened on mine. I have standard pedals.

Nor me, standard pedals also.

T1M · 05-23-2016, 02:16 AM

Could possibly be shoe design? Either that or the dead pedal has lifted somewhat off of the carpet; catching on it would seem to imply that there's something to 'catch' on.

gmx · 05-23-2016, 08:20 AM

Might be a problem with BMW Performance RHD Dead pedal possibly or copies out there?
Pretty sure it was protruding over and my shoe got caught underneath the lip attempting to re-engage the clutch.

T1M · 05-23-2016, 09:55 AM

That doesn't sound good!

The__J__Factor · 05-24-2016, 12:04 AM

Keen to see how 1M prices hold up. I wouldn't mind picking one up in say 6months with reasonable kms for like $60k ish.

Z4 M coupes have been up and down the last few years but now seem to be back down again with a few under $40k. That is a special car, last M car with an NA I6, CSL brakes ect they have held their value fairly well. I assume the 1M might follow a similar depreciation curve. I don't think they will appreciate, at least not in the near future.

martymil · 05-24-2016, 01:00 AM

Higher km examples are always going to fetch much lower prices, low km versions will always attract a premium.

A car is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

One of my clients offered me 100k for my 1m but I said i'm not interested but if he finds a nice low km one I could help him build one.

The__J__Factor · 05-24-2016, 01:52 AM

True but for an intended daily I think anything under 60,000kms would be ok for me and would be more than happy with that at $60k. A super low km example wouldn't interest me because I wouldn't see the value for my intended use. A collector obviously might.
Actually a few on carsales now which would suit me. See how things look in 6 months.

martymil · 05-24-2016, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The__J__Factor

True but for an intended daily I think anything under 60,000kms would be ok for me and would be more than happy with that at $60k. A super low km example wouldn't interest me because I wouldn't see the value for my intended use. A collector obviously might.
Actually a few on carsales now which would suit me. See how things look in 6 months.

Seen quite a few 60k 1m's come up for sale for low to mid 60's

They come up quite often

Smiley1175 · 05-24-2016, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by martymil

One of my clients offered me 100k for my 1m but I said i'm not interested but if he finds a nice low km one I could help him build one.

I'd happily take $100k, feel free to share my details! I've advertised mine in the classifieds section for a fraction of that

asn993 · 05-27-2016, 02:03 AM

123km 1M on carsales for $55k so prices are coming down albeit with opposite kms.

fastcars · 05-28-2016, 04:34 AM

Well, Ive just paid my year 4 rego for my AW 1M and will be just about to clock over the 20K km mark.

imske3000 · 06-05-2016, 07:16 AM

I am in the market at the moment. What do you think a 1M with 35,000kms is worth?

kaitan · 06-05-2016, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by imske3000

I am in the market at the moment. What do you think a 1M with 35,000kms is worth?

Depending on condition. I would say at the end of the day it's how much the buyer is willing to pay.

I paid a premium for mine because it has all the bells and whistles.

imske3000 · 06-05-2016, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by kaitan

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Originally Posted by imske3000

I am in the market at the moment. What do you think a 1M with 35,000kms is worth?

Depending on condition. I would say at the end of the day it's how much the buyer is willing to pay.

I paid a premium for mine because it has all the bells and whistles.

The car is in good condition but does not have any options which I don't mind. I just see so much variation in the numbers i don't know what they are worth

gmx · 06-06-2016, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by imske3000

I am in the market at the moment. What do you think a 1M with 35,000kms is worth?

The steal in recent months would've been the VO with 33k km listed at 66900 and sold within a week. Missed out myself.

THere was a JB4 + some other bolt on 12k km AW listed at 69000, also sold quite fast.

Both were MY12, built 2012.

That Kirribilli one has not dropped since listed. I think the owner is up in the air regarding letting it actually go. Let us know.

imske3000 · 06-06-2016, 06:08 PM

I am talking to allot of the guys on Carsales at the moment and the term "rare" and "collectible" is used quite allot, so last night I did some research into the 1M. As i am sure allot of you know there was an initial delivery of 130, then that was lifted to 300, there was a few more cars after that but the numbers are not exact. But whats does that mean in relation to being rare or collectible and ultimately price?

As a point of comparison I thought about the E46 M3 CSL which is also an iconic BMW and considered rare. There was 27 CSL's delivered in Australia with a price tag of $210,000. 13yrs later they are worth around half that depending on quality.

We have 12x the amount of 1M's to CSL's.

1M Numbers - http://www.caradvice.com.au/201998/b...ps-production/

E46 M3 CSL Numbers - http://www.motormag.com.au/features/...csl-revisited/

John_01 · 06-06-2016, 06:52 PM

CSL may be more collectible as its more classic E46 styling, and more authentic M engine.

1M is more appealing as a divers car, but mechanically the engine is not as durable due to issues with direct injection system, turbo, boost control, and cooling systems that are prone to failure into the future.

1q2w3e4r · 06-06-2016, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by John_01

CSL may be more collectible as its more classic E46 styling, and more authentic M engine.

1M is more appealing as a divers car, but mechanically the engine is not as durable due to issues with direct injection system, turbo, boost control, and cooling systems that are prone to failure into the future.

I'm curious. Why do you say its more appealing as a drivers car?

John_01 · 06-06-2016, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 1q2w3e4r

I'm curious. Why do you say its more appealing as a drivers car?

To me its more appealing. 1M coupe has more torque and more usable power.
1M's suspension design is better evolved than the E46. 1M can fit more rubber in the wheel arches.
If choosing a track day car, the 1M seems a clear winner.

John_01 · 06-07-2016, 03:37 AM

If looking for a collectors car, I wonder if a mint condition E92 M3 may hold its value better than a 1M coupe.
Naturally aspirated BMW's have become a thing of the past, and the E92 M3 is the last of the breed.

sparoz · 06-07-2016, 04:16 AM

There are too many E92 M3s. 1M probably isn't at collectable status until a few more has it crashed or shipped to the UK

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gmx · 06-07-2016, 07:26 AM

I'm not convinced that they're genuine sellers if they truly believe the car is collectible. It's relatively rare, ok. But that doesn't equate to collectible status.

300 M2s were allocated for Australia initially too. Does that make it collectible?

05-23-2016, 02:16 AM	#178
T1M Captain 196 Rep 657 Posts Drives: AW MY12 1M Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0)	Could possibly be shoe design? Either that or the dead pedal has lifted somewhat off of the carpet; catching on it would seem to imply that there's something to 'catch' on.
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05-23-2016, 08:20 AM	#179
gmx Lieutenant 166 Rep 478 Posts Drives: VO 1M Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Sydney, AU iTrader: (0)	Might be a problem with BMW Performance RHD Dead pedal possibly or copies out there? Pretty sure it was protruding over and my shoe got caught underneath the lip attempting to re-engage the clutch.
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05-23-2016, 09:55 AM	#180
T1M Captain 196 Rep 657 Posts Drives: AW MY12 1M Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0)	That doesn't sound good!
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05-24-2016, 12:04 AM	#181
The__J__Factor Major 88 Rep 1,090 Posts Drives: ///M Coupe Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gold Coast, Australia iTrader: (0)	Keen to see how 1M prices hold up. I wouldn't mind picking one up in say 6months with reasonable kms for like $60k ish. Z4 M coupes have been up and down the last few years but now seem to be back down again with a few under $40k. That is a special car, last M car with an NA I6, CSL brakes ect they have held their value fairly well. I assume the 1M might follow a similar depreciation curve. I don't think they will appreciate, at least not in the near future. __________________ 135i N54 manual MR-S with a 2zz swap and mods Sold EVO X MR - Phantom Black - Ti Exhaust - Ti UICP - AQM Intake - Sold Z4 M Coupe - H&R - RE Diablo - RPi - Tekarbon - Sold
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05-24-2016, 01:00 AM	#182
martymil Banned 389 Rep 2,186 Posts Drives: Garage is to big to list. Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Sydney iTrader: (8)	Higher km examples are always going to fetch much lower prices, low km versions will always attract a premium. A car is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. One of my clients offered me 100k for my 1m but I said i'm not interested but if he finds a nice low km one I could help him build one.
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05-24-2016, 01:52 AM	#183
The__J__Factor Major 88 Rep 1,090 Posts Drives: ///M Coupe Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gold Coast, Australia iTrader: (0)	True but for an intended daily I think anything under 60,000kms would be ok for me and would be more than happy with that at $60k. A super low km example wouldn't interest me because I wouldn't see the value for my intended use. A collector obviously might. Actually a few on carsales now which would suit me. See how things look in 6 months. __________________ 135i N54 manual MR-S with a 2zz swap and mods Sold EVO X MR - Phantom Black - Ti Exhaust - Ti UICP - AQM Intake - Sold Z4 M Coupe - H&R - RE Diablo - RPi - Tekarbon - Sold
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05-27-2016, 02:03 AM	#186
asn993 asn993 131 Rep 260 Posts Drives: 2008 135i 6m 1M conversion Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Adelaide iTrader: (0)	123km 1M on carsales for $55k so prices are coming down albeit with opposite kms.
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05-28-2016, 04:34 AM	#187
fastcars Private First Class 51 Rep 139 Posts Drives: 2019 M2C Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	Well, Ive just paid my year 4 rego for my AW 1M and will be just about to clock over the 20K km mark.
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06-05-2016, 07:16 AM	#188
imske3000 Second Lieutenant 21 Rep 228 Posts Drives: AW 1M Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Sydney iTrader: (1)	I am in the market at the moment. What do you think a 1M with 35,000kms is worth?
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imske3000 Second Lieutenant 21 Rep 228 Posts Drives: AW 1M Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Sydney iTrader: (1)	I am talking to allot of the guys on Carsales at the moment and the term "rare" and "collectible" is used quite allot, so last night I did some research into the 1M. As i am sure allot of you know there was an initial delivery of 130, then that was lifted to 300, there was a few more cars after that but the numbers are not exact. But whats does that mean in relation to being rare or collectible and ultimately price? As a point of comparison I thought about the E46 M3 CSL which is also an iconic BMW and considered rare. There was 27 CSL's delivered in Australia with a price tag of $210,000. 13yrs later they are worth around half that depending on quality. We have 12x the amount of 1M's to CSL's. 1M Numbers - http://www.caradvice.com.au/201998/b...ps-production/ E46 M3 CSL Numbers - http://www.motormag.com.au/features/...csl-revisited/ Last edited by imske3000; 06-06-2016 at 06:22 PM..
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John_01 Colonel 234 Rep 2,643 Posts Drives: E90 325i, E82 135i Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	CSL may be more collectible as its more classic E46 styling, and more authentic M engine. 1M is more appealing as a divers car, but mechanically the engine is not as durable due to issues with direct injection system, turbo, boost control, and cooling systems that are prone to failure into the future.
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06-07-2016, 03:37 AM	#196
John_01 Colonel 234 Rep 2,643 Posts Drives: E90 325i, E82 135i Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	If looking for a collectors car, I wonder if a mint condition E92 M3 may hold its value better than a 1M coupe. Naturally aspirated BMW's have become a thing of the past, and the E92 M3 is the last of the breed.
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06-07-2016, 04:16 AM	#197
sparoz Brigadier General 192 Rep 4,848 Posts Drives: VO 1///M; Macan Turbo Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sunshine Coast iTrader: (0)	There are too many E92 M3s. 1M probably isn't at collectable status until a few more has it crashed or shipped to the UK . __________________ Macan S Diesel - Carrera White Macan Turbo - White 1///M - Valencia Orange
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06-07-2016, 07:26 AM	#198
gmx Lieutenant 166 Rep 478 Posts Drives: VO 1M Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Sydney, AU iTrader: (0)	I'm not convinced that they're genuine sellers if they truly believe the car is collectible. It's relatively rare, ok. But that doesn't equate to collectible status. 300 M2s were allocated for Australia initially too. Does that make it collectible?
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