Raceland 135i Downpipes on eBay for $199... What?

scott135i · 11-22-2009, 08:14 PM

Came across this just now on ebay..$199 for downpipes.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Racel...item1c0e15dd97

Is this serious? I saw another thread on here about someone trying Raceland headers on their car, but haven't heard anything else.

Im not seriously considering getting these, don't worry, just wanted to know if anyone new anything about this company and/or this product from them.

Schn3ll · 11-22-2009, 08:26 PM

"best to clean downpipe with steel wool on a MONTHLY basis..."

Yea, definitely going to stay away from these.

Hind · 11-22-2009, 09:44 PM

Why would we scrub it with steel wool?

GtiGyver · 11-22-2009, 10:18 PM

So, steel wool maintenance = bad product?

Am I missing something?

sullysdetailing · 11-22-2009, 10:21 PM

Cleaning with #0000 Steel Wool and a good metal polish will make you DP shine like new

Lester · 11-22-2009, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schn3ll

"best to clean downpipe with steel wool on a MONTHLY basis..."

Do they mean on the inside?

GtiGyver · 11-23-2009, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lester

Do they mean on the inside?

no

HondaGoneRogue · 11-23-2009, 01:11 AM

I may give these a shot. It's funny how people will shell out 1000 bucks for one set of DP's or whatever, and then dismiss another set because they cost what a normal set of DP's should cost. People crack me up. What makes $999.00 DP's worth $999.00? Good material is good material and good welds are good welds. Glad to see at least some people not trying to pass on the "bmw tax". Hopefully these are good pieces.

Jettafanatic · 11-23-2009, 01:18 AM

I saw those too and said to myself "hmmmmmmmmmm....."
Just like to "Godspeed" intercooler ( awefully similar look to some on here ) for $399.... have to wonder about quality... curious to see if anyone buys / trys / posts on here.

BahamaBart · 11-23-2009, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HondaGoneRogue

I may give these a shot. It's funny how people will shell out 1000 bucks for one set of DP's or whatever, and then dismiss another set because they cost what a normal set of DP's should cost. People crack me up. What makes $999.00 DP's worth $999.00? Good material is good material and good welds are good welds. Glad to see at least some people not trying to pass on the "bmw tax". Hopefully these are good pieces.

Valid points. When I was nodding my mini, I picked up some OBX headers and exhaust. Got the whole china knock off argument and too cheap to be any good. 5 years later, no problems.

These should work just fine considering it's just tubing. The only question will be fit.

onefastman · 11-23-2009, 08:01 AM

I agree with fit... but I agree it is two pieces of strait pipe. How badly could they have screwed it up? which is why I went with a used set of vk which are lost in the mail so if they dont make it to me in a week I will consider picking up a set of these.

Terrance28 · 11-23-2009, 08:40 AM

Piping is piping if they hold together well and fitment is good then they are doing their job. This is the norm for pricing on dps, paying 600-1000 for dps is ridiculous thats why I haven't picked up a set yet.

Eyeman · 11-23-2009, 10:06 AM

I could agree with trying a cheap muffler, intercooler, etc. But downpipes are not easy to install and they are exposed to some pretty significant heat, etc. I'd bet these fit but if they don't you'd have to reinstall your stock set and do it again. For sure these won't be as big or well made as others so you'll get less gains and probably less durability.

To me, downpipes are an aggressive mod anyways. BMW will try to void your warranty due to them. You may pick up some droning, etc and you also have the emission concerns. If you are gonna bother with the mod, IMO do it right. However, I would go with VK products if trying to be thrifty.

sbefar01 · 11-23-2009, 10:47 AM

I agree completely, it is an aggressive mod (emissions, warranty, part durability). Warranty certainly would be GONE @ BMW. Maybe if you bought an aftermarket warranty you could get away with DP? . . . just a thought.

ridin135 · 11-23-2009, 11:07 AM

Just by looking at them they look like they would fit. But they might be a little harder to work with. If I already didn't have downpipes I would get these for sure. I had ebay headers on my old 3 series and they were awesome. I say go for it if you don't have downpipes.

sullysdetailing · 11-23-2009, 11:49 AM

I bought an ATP downpipe for my VW MKV GTI when I had it. I refused to pay twice there price for APR or Revo when it was the same product.

ar design · 11-23-2009, 01:33 PM

Hmmm looks like somebody's product is getting backdoored LOL....

HondaGoneRogue · 11-23-2009, 02:35 PM

Well I looked into Raceland, and they have a TON of products for almost every make and model of euro cars (I went to thier netherlands website). So this isn't one of those companies that spring up, make a few pieces for a few select group buy customers and thats all they do is that one profitable moments worth of production. This is a full blown company. So that definately gives me the reason to try em out since theyre only 200 bucks.

Edit: None of that was geared toward ar design or any one vendor. Just generalizing a lot of manufacturer practices.

onefastman · 11-23-2009, 06:39 PM

Are these 2.5 or 3 inch? If they are 3 inch I would buy them because the person who supposedly sent me my vk dp's didnt give me a tracking number and I have no way of knowing if he actually shipped them 10 days ago lol

ridin135 · 11-23-2009, 06:48 PM

they look like they are 2.5"

larryn · 11-23-2009, 06:54 PM

Raceland's website sells them for $14 cheaper, at $185. Coincidentally, Shipping is $14, making them cost exactly the same...

jeremyc74 · 11-23-2009, 07:31 PM

The only real danger with something like this is the quality of the SS they're using. You've really got no way to know exactly what material they've used utill it's way too late, and they're rusted and leaking.

On the other hand, even if they're the lowest grade stainless you can buy, they're still going to last for years, and at that price you could replace them three times for what the more expensive DPs cost. It's also worth mentioning that there have been reports of one of the more expensive pipes using lower quality materials on their flanges, so it's sort of a crap shoot either way.

If I didn't already have catless DPs on my car, I'd give them a shot.

11-22-2009, 08:14 PM	#1
scott135i Colonel 355 Rep 2,080 Posts Drives: 2020 X5 M50i Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC Metro iTrader: (12)	Raceland 135i Downpipes on eBay for $199... What? Came across this just now on ebay..$199 for downpipes. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Racel...item1c0e15dd97 Is this serious? I saw another thread on here about someone trying Raceland headers on their car, but haven't heard anything else. Im not seriously considering getting these, don't worry, just wanted to know if anyone new anything about this company and/or this product from them.
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11-22-2009, 10:21 PM	#5
sullysdetailing Banned 4 Rep 70 Posts Drives: Pickup Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: South Florida iTrader: (0)	Cleaning with #0000 Steel Wool and a good metal polish will make you DP shine like new
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Jettafanatic Private First Class 14 Rep 120 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Santa Barbara, CA iTrader: (2)	I saw those too and said to myself "hmmmmmmmmmm....." Just like to "Godspeed" intercooler ( awefully similar look to some on here ) for $399.... have to wonder about quality... curious to see if anyone buys / trys / posts on here. __________________ Legal Disclaimer: Anything I or anyone else says about my vehicle on this website(1addicts.com or any affiliated or nonaffiliated sites), pertaining to modifications, is only to gain acceptance from my/our peers, and does not actually represent anything actually existing on my car, and thus, cannot be held against me in any issues, i.e. warranty claims, that may arise.
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onefastman Major General 159 Rep 5,689 Posts Drives: 2009 135i 2011 e92m dct Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Earth iTrader: (15)	I agree with fit... but I agree it is two pieces of strait pipe. How badly could they have screwed it up? which is why I went with a used set of vk which are lost in the mail so if they dont make it to me in a week I will consider picking up a set of these.
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Terrance28 Brigadier General 109 Rep 3,334 Posts Drives: Crimson Red E92 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Killeen, TX iTrader: (17)	Piping is piping if they hold together well and fitment is good then they are doing their job. This is the norm for pricing on dps, paying 600-1000 for dps is ridiculous thats why I haven't picked up a set yet. __________________ Mods list got too long, lets just say more than enough.
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Eyeman Colonel 119 Rep 2,036 Posts Drives: 2008 135 blk, blk, step Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0) Garage List 1994 Porsche 968 Cab [0.00] 2017 AMG GTS [0.00] 1994 Porsche 968 Coupe [0.00] 1977 Mercedes 450SE ... [0.00] 2008 135 [8.00]	I could agree with trying a cheap muffler, intercooler, etc. But downpipes are not easy to install and they are exposed to some pretty significant heat, etc. I'd bet these fit but if they don't you'd have to reinstall your stock set and do it again. For sure these won't be as big or well made as others so you'll get less gains and probably less durability. To me, downpipes are an aggressive mod anyways. BMW will try to void your warranty due to them. You may pick up some droning, etc and you also have the emission concerns. If you are gonna bother with the mod, IMO do it right. However, I would go with VK products if trying to be thrifty. __________________ Injen, RR OCC, MadDad Whisper, donut spare, 19x8.5et43fr 19x9.5et45r Volk LE37's, rear fenders rolled/pulled, PSS4S 225/35fr 255/30r, KW V1's, AR coated catless dps, Cross strutbar, CF grills and license plate holder, iCarbon diffuser, ETS black anodized FMIC, M3 control arms, Quaife, ER chargepipe, ForgeDV's, Topspeed Custom Tune, V3sims, Braille, Andrey_GTA rear hub mod, Ebay Mstyle front bumper and performance style side skirts.
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sbefar01 First Lieutenant 16 Rep 331 Posts Drives: 1er Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	I agree completely, it is an aggressive mod (emissions, warranty, part durability). Warranty certainly would be GONE @ BMW. Maybe if you bought an aftermarket warranty you could get away with DP? . . . just a thought.
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11-23-2009, 11:07 AM	#15
ridin135 Colonel 131 Rep 2,408 Posts Drives: Depends on the day Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Greenville iTrader: (7)	Just by looking at them they look like they would fit. But they might be a little harder to work with. If I already didn't have downpipes I would get these for sure. I had ebay headers on my old 3 series and they were awesome. I say go for it if you don't have downpipes.
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sullysdetailing Banned 4 Rep 70 Posts Drives: Pickup Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: South Florida iTrader: (0)	I bought an ATP downpipe for my VW MKV GTI when I had it. I refused to pay twice there price for APR or Revo when it was the same product.
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HondaGoneRogue They like my Swag... 433 Rep 3,762 Posts Drives: 15 GSM 435i GC Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: South Dakota iTrader: (4) Garage List 2015 435i Gran Coupe [0.00]	Well I looked into Raceland, and they have a TON of products for almost every make and model of euro cars (I went to thier netherlands website). So this isn't one of those companies that spring up, make a few pieces for a few select group buy customers and thats all they do is that one profitable moments worth of production. This is a full blown company. So that definately gives me the reason to try em out since theyre only 200 bucks. Edit: None of that was geared toward ar design or any one vendor. Just generalizing a lot of manufacturer practices. __________________ 2015 435i Gran Coupe - Current 2008 AW 135i - Sold
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11-23-2009, 06:39 PM	#19
onefastman Major General 159 Rep 5,689 Posts Drives: 2009 135i 2011 e92m dct Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Earth iTrader: (15)	Are these 2.5 or 3 inch? If they are 3 inch I would buy them because the person who supposedly sent me my vk dp's didnt give me a tracking number and I have no way of knowing if he actually shipped them 10 days ago lol
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ridin135 Colonel 131 Rep 2,408 Posts Drives: Depends on the day Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Greenville iTrader: (7)	they look like they are 2.5"
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11-23-2009, 06:54 PM	#21
larryn Lieutenant General 2146 Rep 10,176 Posts Drives: '97 332ti, '21 X5 45e, '16 GT4 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle iTrader: (2)	Raceland's website sells them for $14 cheaper, at $185. Coincidentally, Shipping is $14, making them cost exactly the same...
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11-23-2009, 07:31 PM	#22
jeremyc74 Banned 76 Rep 5,970 Posts Drives: '08 135i Montego/Terra Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Evansville, IN iTrader: (0)	The only real danger with something like this is the quality of the SS they're using. You've really got no way to know exactly what material they've used utill it's way too late, and they're rusted and leaking. On the other hand, even if they're the lowest grade stainless you can buy, they're still going to last for years, and at that price you could replace them three times for what the more expensive DPs cost. It's also worth mentioning that there have been reports of one of the more expensive pipes using lower quality materials on their flanges, so it's sort of a crap shoot either way. If I didn't already have catless DPs on my car, I'd give them a shot.
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