BMW issues recall for all 1-series sold between 2008 and 2010 for potential fire risk

[oasis3582]

Originally Posted by hppypaul

whats amazing is that they do a full recall for this, but won't do one for the HPFP, despite all the problems people are having. for that they let you keep coming back for diagnosis, getting stranded, etc.

No kidding. However, I am guessing this means someone died from this, while no one has for the HPFP?

[Sylon]

I love how you guys managed to turn a thread about a seatbelt recall into a debate on which version of the engine is better O_o


Grow up people, and go to the 757363524 other threads that talk about that endless debate. Keep this thread on topic!

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Lucky1

Heh. So you're driving at night on the highway and you have a spontaneous fuel pump failure causing you to lose speed and go into limp mode. Guy behind you doesn't see you cause your tail lights are out due to the gas emitted by the seals not to mention the lack of a third brake light. Guy crashes into you and you explode into a ball of fire. Wow BMW, you thought of everything with this car. It's like you got the screenwriter from Final Destination to design this thing.

That said I don't think this one is a big deal. At least they issued a recall; they could have just tried to bury it and let us figure it out on our own like much like they've handled just about every other problem with this car.

...I just laughed so hard reading this I almost spit my mountain dew all over hte monitor LOL! thanks Lucky (we have the same black humor) ~Frost

[Sylon]

They said they haven't figured out a fix yet, why not just remove that little piece of insulation? Seems simple to me.

[lux.sh]

Originally Posted by Lucky1

Heh. So you're driving at night on the highway and you have a spontaneous fuel pump failure causing you to lose speed and go into limp mode. Guy behind you doesn't see you cause your tail lights are out due to the gas emitted by the seals not to mention the lack of a third brake light. Guy crashes into you and you explode into a ball of fire. Wow BMW, you thought of everything with this car. It's like you got the screenwriter from Final Destination to design this thing.

That said I don't think this one is a big deal. At least they issued a recall; they could have just tried to bury it and let us figure it out on our own like much like they've handled just about every other problem with this car.

oh man I logged in just to say this - That is some funny shit.

[thebmw]

Originally Posted by Lucky1

Heh. So you're driving at night on the highway and you have a spontaneous fuel pump failure causing you to lose speed and go into limp mode. Guy behind you doesn't see you cause your tail lights are out due to the gas emitted by the seals not to mention the lack of a third brake light. Guy crashes into you and you explode into a ball of fire. Wow BMW, you thought of everything with this car. It's like you got the screenwriter from Final Destination to design this thing.

That said I don't think this one is a big deal. At least they issued a recall; they could have just tried to bury it and let us figure it out on our own like much like they've handled just about every other problem with this car.

+1. I just read that the new A5/S5 may come out in 2013 and 800 pounds lighter...cant wait to have a good reason to jump ship. However, it seems that Audi is no better (probably worse) in reliability...it's a no win situation.

[kevon]

Originally Posted by TMR013

Well, so it seems that BMW is joining the never ending litany of safety recalls.

Are we making more unsafe cars? Or is everybody so afraid of lawsuits we are hyper sensitive?

I'm pretty sure the later

[JS135i]

Going in for the fix in 2 weeks. Service guy said they replace the insulation.
Getting a loaner for the day, I asked for an X6!

[NL-J]

Just read that there won't be a recall for the 1 series in Europe. No potential fire risk due to a different construction used here.

[Qunadry]

Originally Posted by JS135i

Going in for the fix in 2 weeks. Service guy said they replace the insulation.
Getting a loaner for the day, I asked for an X6!

Called my dealer today and they said that my 2009 135i was not part of the recall and that they have not stopped delivering 1 series coupes. What determines if a specific car is or is not part of the recall?

[TMR013]

Originally Posted by NL-J

Just read that there won't be a recall for the 1 series in Europe. No potential fire risk due to a different construction used here.

Aren't all 1's made in the same place???

[Taymaishu]

Originally Posted by TMR013

Aren't all 1's made in the same place???

Two German plants make 1ers: Regensburg and Liepzig.

Considering it seems 99% of the Australian market's 1ers come from Liepzig, i was suprised mine was built in Regensburg!

[Elsabor67]

Hell, my car is US specs and I have to take it to a German dealer to verify and see if i'm not affected by the recall. When I called BMW USA, the guy at first said that my car wasn't in the system since I haven't activated my US warranty.......and then went on a limb and said that maybe my car was German specs

Anyways, he came back and gave me good info on who to deal with here in Germany.

[Sylon]

Originally Posted by Elsabor67

Hell, my car is US specs and I have to take it to a German dealer to verify and see if i'm not affected by the recall. When I called BMW USA, the guy at first said that my car wasn't in the system since I haven't activated my US warranty.......and then went on a limb and said that maybe my car was German specs

Anyways, he came back and gave me good info on who to deal with here in Germany.

Damn, all I did was email my dealer rep in Ramstein. I'll just see what he says. I'm not overly concerned about this, its one of those super-rare instances if it happens, and if its not done here it will be done once the car is in the States.

[Ash83]

this thread is a mess now

[raisemyrent]

Originally Posted by thebmw

Good job BMW...keep up the good marketing and making us think we actually have reliable cars (I know better though based on experience and all the JD Power surveys). If the HPFP doesn't fail (or in my case 20+ electrical and mechanical failures), don't worry...the car should catch fire instead.

wow.
I suggest you google what "probability" means.

[Battleship Potemkin]

Originally Posted by kevon

I'm pretty sure the later

Another possibility is the information explosion that has taken place within the last ~20 years allows for Ford owners to find out about Chevy recalls and vice versa. It's possible the recall rate is the same we just know about them now. What has caused this information explosion? I'll have to think about that.

Also, there are simply more makes & models in production today than ever before... actually, there were probably more just a few years ago, but you get the idea.

All in all, I'd say that this intense level of scrutiny is a good thing. If it was up to auto execs they just mind decide that letting a few people die is more cost effective than an expensive recall.

[roundel]

Originally Posted by thebmw

+1. I just read that the new A5/S5 may come out in 2013 and 800 pounds lighter...cant wait to have a good reason to jump ship. However, it seems that Audi is no better (probably worse) in reliability...it's a no win situation.

2011 5.0 Mustang GT is a win-win-win.

[thebmw]

Originally Posted by raisemyrent

wow.
I suggest you google what "probability" means.

Relax...or maybe you should google "drinking a little too much BMW Kool-aid"

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by hotrod182

I believe the N54 engine was the newer design over the partially magnesium blocked 325/328 engines. Unfortunately there are more headbolt, valve cover, and lifter problems with that engine compared to the N54.

You can still get the N54, but only in the top of the line Z4 and 335is models.
I tried my hardest to get the last 2010 335i on the lot, but the dealer sold it to someone else! So as far as the N54 being inferior.....such a deal for BMW to surcharge you for one now!

Yes, the N54 came after the N52, so chronologically it is "newer", but the N54 doesn't use the higher tech of the N52's block, cylinders, or valvetronic.
The N54 used older tech to be able to handle the added boost of common standard turbo's. The N55 is truly the real deal in terms of newest technology engine building along with a higher tech twin scroll and valvetronic.

The N54 is no doubt a sweet engine, but in terms of modern high tech, that clearly goes to the N55.

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by oasis3582

No kidding. However, I am guessing this means someone died from this, while no one has for the HPFP?

The NHTSA issues recalls on problems that have distinct 'safety' issues.
They're not in the business of forcing recalls on what is essentially a performance or performance related design issue..

Sure, people make up horror stories, like the pump will fail and leave them stranded in the middle of traffic. Has that happened? If it has, then it needs to be reported. And, if the NHSTA gets enough of those complaints, then they will do an investigation to see if there truly is a real 'safety' issue.
There have been people who have filed with the NHSTA about the pump, and they've probably done a preliminary to see if there truly is a safety issue. Since there hasn't been a safety problem they are not in the business of issuing recalls for non-safety problems, no matter how much people spin the problem.

If the NHTSA were to get into that kind of thing then they would be issuing recalls or any mechanical problem item that could result in leaving a driver stranded somewhere. It doesn't make good use of tax payer dollars. Imagine how big the NHTSA would be if they were involved in those things too. And, we the tax payers would have to foot the bill with higher tax paid somewhere.
There has to be a limit to "big brother".

Real "safety recalls" are issue by the NHTSA and it has federal legal weight to it, and the manufacturers MUST comply. For non safety related problems, that's what the manufacturers warranty is for, and there are legal standards there as well. Non safety issues are handled with manufacturer TSB's, or as some call them 'in house recalls'. BMW has extended the warranty on the HPFP to 10yrs/100k miles. This is their decision, to make good on their warranty of a known issue.
These do not have the legal weight as a true NHTSA recall.

[R0n1n]

Does this apply to Canada as well? I don't want to be caught in a fire....