Good news for anyone doing ED...

mduchesne · 05-10-2005, 02:36 AM

I just got word from Ziv that they do not actually drill holes on the European Delivery cars. They actually found a way to attach them by using a screwless mount to attach the german plates. This is very exciting news for me as it was the one reason I was worried about European Delivery.

Thanks Ziv,
Matt

Steward Luk · 05-10-2005, 04:18 AM

In Hong Kong, they just use double side adhessive tape .... I wonder they are strong enough? Why BM doesn't make a factory drilled holes for mounting the plate?

Armen52 · 05-10-2005, 05:54 AM

Whoa, do you know what method this is? Is it only good for temporary installs? Why couldn't we use it here to install our front plates without drilling the bumper? Just in case we want to remove them or something later?

marcus330i · 05-10-2005, 10:36 AM

This is VERY good news! (if it's true) I was going to go so far as to email Bernhard at the Delivery Center in Munich and beg him not to drill holes in my bumper. It makes sense to use that double sticky foam tape. They used it anyway on the outside edges of my rear plate in addition to the screws...and that stuff is REALLY sticky...it was hard to remove when I got the car redelivered. They probably had too many complaints from people doing ED. Better sell my stock in Bumperplugs.com........

ziv · 05-10-2005, 11:06 AM

First of all -- how did you guys get Bernhard's name? In any case -- he's the best. But now word is gonna get out, and people will start emailing him...

Anyway, I've done 2 ED's. Guys, think about it -- BMW is smart enough to build amazing cars, they're smart enough to allow you to attach a front plate w/o drilling holes. There is a little 90 degree bracket that goes from the inside of the bumper, up, around the bumper, and it holds the plate. The only reason US dealers drill holes is to make the plate holder even stronger. But hey don't have to. It's strong enough for the euro plates, and should be strong enough for the US plates. SO... Don't worry. No one is drilling holes in your new E90's bumper. It also didn't happen for the E46. If anyone is drilling holes it's your dealer, when the car arrives to the US, AFTER the VPC. They don't even drill holes in the VPC...

Cool?

pete330 · 05-10-2005, 12:07 PM

Good news.

Robin_NL · 05-10-2005, 12:30 PM

I read this thread and think: What's it all about? Drillholes for licenceplates wth

But NOW I get the point!Some States don't use frontplates, do they?

LOL

Armen52 · 05-10-2005, 02:33 PM

So I guess a request to the delivery dealer to use the provided bracket to install the front plate instead of drilling holes should be sufficient then. Awesome thanks for the info.

marcus330i · 05-10-2005, 03:40 PM

Hey Ziv: Here's my buddy Bernhard. That's my car. That's my front bumper with the 2 holes drilled in it (right in the middle of the front bracket). That's how it was delivered to me last year. So yes, they drill holes in Munich. Maybe not in the E90 but they definately drill holes.

RedStripe · 05-10-2005, 03:47 PM

That's awesome. Not the holes, but the picture.

Amil · 05-10-2005, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by marcus330i

Hey Ziv: Here's my buddy Bernhard. That's my car. That's my front bumper with the 2 holes drilled in it (right in the middle of the front bracket). That's how it was delivered to me last year. So yes, they drill holes in Munich. Maybe not in the E90 but they definately drill holes.

hahhah what a TRIP that guy delivered my 2001 740il to us a few years back hahah how awesome to see him still there!

he also gave me free loaner navi cd's he was a nice guy!

marcus330i · 05-10-2005, 05:01 PM

The funny part is how he says "OPTIONS!" when demonstrating the voice command system. He sounds like Col. Klink from Hogan's Heroes. HOGAAAAAANNNN! Oh god, I kill me.

ziv · 05-10-2005, 05:03 PM

He's the best. I had him 4.5 years for my 01 330Ci, and kept in touch with him since he gave me his biz card. He's a great guy. I've sent 10 of my friends whom all did ED, to him, and they all really liked him too. He's great at what he does. He pretty much has the best job ever.

e90fanatic · 05-10-2005, 05:45 PM

why does he have the best job? The job of giving away good cars? haha....if I had his job, I'd keep the keys!!

TwinPowerF30 · 05-10-2005, 07:34 PM

are there any differences in the euro delivery version compared to the version here?

RichReg · 05-10-2005, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by weiweiwei

are there any differences in the euro delivery version compared to the version here?

A car picked up through European delivery is a U.S. spec car.

marcus330i · 05-10-2005, 08:09 PM

No differences. It comes with a full tank of 95 octane gas. There's your difference!

ziv · 07-26-2005, 02:28 AM

Guys,

I need to reverse my words. Sorry. They DO drill holes. It's very disappointing. I spoke with Bernhard and he said that they have to secure the front plate to the bumper this way, and that there is no way around it.

I got my car from the dealer. Took off my front plate -- what do you know? 3.5 holes :-( One screw didn't' go all the way in. But you'll have at least 2 holes, 4 worst case.

Sorry for providing you with misinformation. I was really disappointed, just like all of you are.

brad4221x · 07-26-2005, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ziv

Guys,

I need to reverse my words. Sorry. They DO drill holes. It's very disappointing. I spoke with Bernhard and he said that they have to secure the front plate to the bumper this way, and that there is no way around it.

I got my car from the dealer. Took off my front plate -- what do you know? 3.5 holes :-( One screw didn't' go all the way in. But you'll have at least 2 holes, 4 worst case.

Sorry for providing you with misinformation. I was really disappointed, just like all of you are.

So, what do we do with the holes?

ziv · 07-26-2005, 04:43 PM

keep hating them forever. They're small, but annoying. You can always switch out your bumper cover. Or you can put a plate holder there, but that defeats the whole purpose.

It sucks :-(

Username18 · 07-26-2005, 09:57 PM

do you get to keep the euro front plate when you bring the car back to the states?

xspeedy · 07-26-2005, 10:11 PM

You can remove the front plate at drop off and take it home with you. Your rear plate should make it to your US dealer mounted on the car.

05-10-2005, 02:36 AM	#1
mduchesne Private 26 Rep 65 Posts Drives: 06 Jet Black 330i Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (0)	Good news for anyone doing ED... I just got word from Ziv that they do not actually drill holes on the European Delivery cars. They actually found a way to attach them by using a screwless mount to attach the german plates. This is very exciting news for me as it was the one reason I was worried about European Delivery. Thanks Ziv, Matt __________________ 2006 Jet Black 330i Black Leatherette Aluminum Trim Sports Package Heated Seats Sat Prep ED on June 28th
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05-10-2005, 04:18 AM	#2
Steward Luk Enlisted Member 0 Rep 33 Posts Drives: 330i Auto, Arctic Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hong Kong iTrader: (0)	In Hong Kong, they just use double side adhessive tape .... I wonder they are strong enough? Why BM doesn't make a factory drilled holes for mounting the plate?
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05-10-2005, 05:54 AM	#3
Armen52 Captain 33 Rep 663 Posts Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	Whoa, do you know what method this is? Is it only good for temporary installs? Why couldn't we use it here to install our front plates without drilling the bumper? Just in case we want to remove them or something later?
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05-10-2005, 10:36 AM	#4
marcus330i Lieutenant 42 Rep 524 Posts Drives: 2006 330i 6spd Join Date: May 2005 Location: Point Loma, California iTrader: (0)	This is VERY good news! (if it's true) I was going to go so far as to email Bernhard at the Delivery Center in Munich and beg him not to drill holes in my bumper. It makes sense to use that double sticky foam tape. They used it anyway on the outside edges of my rear plate in addition to the screws...and that stuff is REALLY sticky...it was hard to remove when I got the car redelivered. They probably had too many complaints from people doing ED. Better sell my stock in Bumperplugs.com........ __________________ Realtor Mobile: 6spd / Sport / Prem / Navi / ED 3-30-06 73 3.0s/84 528e/90 525i/97 M3 4dr/99 M3 Conv/2001 330i/2004 545i ED/2006 330i ED June 05 You're in control...is there anywhere you want to go ? ------------------------- Last edited by marcus330i; 05-10-2005 at 10:47 AM..
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05-10-2005, 11:06 AM	#5
ziv Private 5 Rep 84 Posts Drives: 330i, SG, Sport Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	First of all -- how did you guys get Bernhard's name? In any case -- he's the best. But now word is gonna get out, and people will start emailing him... Anyway, I've done 2 ED's. Guys, think about it -- BMW is smart enough to build amazing cars, they're smart enough to allow you to attach a front plate w/o drilling holes. There is a little 90 degree bracket that goes from the inside of the bumper, up, around the bumper, and it holds the plate. The only reason US dealers drill holes is to make the plate holder even stronger. But hey don't have to. It's strong enough for the euro plates, and should be strong enough for the US plates. SO... Don't worry. No one is drilling holes in your new E90's bumper. It also didn't happen for the E46. If anyone is drilling holes it's your dealer, when the car arrives to the US, AFTER the VPC. They don't even drill holes in the VPC... Cool?
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05-10-2005, 12:07 PM	#6
pete330 New Member 2 Rep 21 Posts Drives: sold - 98 E36 M3 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chicago - moving to Dallas iTrader: (0)	Good news.
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05-10-2005, 12:30 PM	#7
Robin_NL S0THPAW 8717 Rep 7,846 Posts Drives: HS M2 Competition Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Netherlands iTrader: (0)	I read this thread and think: What's it all about? Drillholes for licenceplates wth But NOW I get the point!Some States don't use frontplates, do they? LOL
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05-10-2005, 02:33 PM	#8
Armen52 Captain 33 Rep 663 Posts Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	So I guess a request to the delivery dealer to use the provided bracket to install the front plate instead of drilling holes should be sufficient then. Awesome thanks for the info.
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05-10-2005, 03:40 PM	#9
marcus330i Lieutenant 42 Rep 524 Posts Drives: 2006 330i 6spd Join Date: May 2005 Location: Point Loma, California iTrader: (0)	Hey Ziv: Here's my buddy Bernhard. That's my car. That's my front bumper with the 2 holes drilled in it (right in the middle of the front bracket). That's how it was delivered to me last year. So yes, they drill holes in Munich. Maybe not in the E90 but they definately drill holes. Attached Images __________________ Realtor Mobile: 6spd / Sport / Prem / Navi / ED 3-30-06 73 3.0s/84 528e/90 525i/97 M3 4dr/99 M3 Conv/2001 330i/2004 545i ED/2006 330i ED June 05 You're in control...is there anywhere you want to go ? -------------------------
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RedStripe Captain 96 Rep 649 Posts Drives: 2006 BMW 325i Join Date: May 2005 Location: Texas iTrader: (1) Garage List 2006 BMW 325i [0.00]	That's awesome. Not the holes, but the picture.
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05-10-2005, 05:01 PM	#12
marcus330i Lieutenant 42 Rep 524 Posts Drives: 2006 330i 6spd Join Date: May 2005 Location: Point Loma, California iTrader: (0)	The funny part is how he says "OPTIONS!" when demonstrating the voice command system. He sounds like Col. Klink from Hogan's Heroes. HOGAAAAAANNNN! Oh god, I kill me. __________________ Realtor Mobile: 6spd / Sport / Prem / Navi / ED 3-30-06 73 3.0s/84 528e/90 525i/97 M3 4dr/99 M3 Conv/2001 330i/2004 545i ED/2006 330i ED June 05 You're in control...is there anywhere you want to go ? -------------------------
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ziv Private 5 Rep 84 Posts Drives: 330i, SG, Sport Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	He's the best. I had him 4.5 years for my 01 330Ci, and kept in touch with him since he gave me his biz card. He's a great guy. I've sent 10 of my friends whom all did ED, to him, and they all really liked him too. He's great at what he does. He pretty much has the best job ever.
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05-10-2005, 05:45 PM	#14
e90fanatic Absolute0 166 Rep 5,078 Posts Drives: Has a Roundel Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: TO/HK/NJ iTrader: (6)	why does he have the best job? The job of giving away good cars? haha....if I had his job, I'd keep the keys!!
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TwinPowerF30 Captain 38 Rep 643 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Coupe Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada iTrader: (0)	are there any differences in the euro delivery version compared to the version here?
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05-10-2005, 08:09 PM	#17
marcus330i Lieutenant 42 Rep 524 Posts Drives: 2006 330i 6spd Join Date: May 2005 Location: Point Loma, California iTrader: (0)	No differences. It comes with a full tank of 95 octane gas. There's your difference! __________________ Realtor Mobile: 6spd / Sport / Prem / Navi / ED 3-30-06 73 3.0s/84 528e/90 525i/97 M3 4dr/99 M3 Conv/2001 330i/2004 545i ED/2006 330i ED June 05 You're in control...is there anywhere you want to go ? -------------------------
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07-26-2005, 02:28 AM	#18
ziv Private 5 Rep 84 Posts Drives: 330i, SG, Sport Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	Guys, I need to reverse my words. Sorry. They DO drill holes. It's very disappointing. I spoke with Bernhard and he said that they have to secure the front plate to the bumper this way, and that there is no way around it. I got my car from the dealer. Took off my front plate -- what do you know? 3.5 holes :-( One screw didn't' go all the way in. But you'll have at least 2 holes, 4 worst case. Sorry for providing you with misinformation. I was really disappointed, just like all of you are.
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ziv Private 5 Rep 84 Posts Drives: 330i, SG, Sport Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	keep hating them forever. They're small, but annoying. You can always switch out your bumper cover. Or you can put a plate holder there, but that defeats the whole purpose. It sucks :-(
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Username18 Private 4 Rep 79 Posts Drives: E90 325i Join Date: May 2005 Location: AZ iTrader: (0)	do you get to keep the euro front plate when you bring the car back to the states?
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07-26-2005, 10:11 PM	#22
xspeedy Second Lieutenant 7 Rep 266 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2005 iTrader: (0)	You can remove the front plate at drop off and take it home with you. Your rear plate should make it to your US dealer mounted on the car.
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