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      08-15-2009, 11:49 PM   #1
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Break in done, what should i have done besides oil?

when i get back home at the end of the month, what should i have done to the car besides oil/filter change? should i reset the ECU using the accelerator method? Should i have any other fluids changed?
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      08-16-2009, 12:00 AM   #2
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I don't think so, there aren't many fluid lines in the car lol. brake fluid, tranny fluid, differential fluid, clutch fluid.....
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      08-16-2009, 12:01 AM   #3
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windshield wiper fluid lol, what else... cant change any of those just for break in...
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"Break in done..." NAIL IT!
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Ois is all, and you really do not have to do that, as long as you will not keep it past the warranty period.
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      08-16-2009, 11:47 AM   #6
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drive it like it's a rental.
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"Break in done..." NAIL IT!
I agree. I would wait until the recommended service, but thats just me. It would be a whole different story if the car is being tracked often.
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Where are you guys hearing that a post break-in oil change should be done? Im at a little over 2k miles and am not due for an oil change for 13k according to the car.
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I've also just finished break-in and plan to change the oil later this month.

iDrive is telling me my next oil change is at 22,000km or about 13,700 miles. Since I won't be driving that much in 12 months time, this means I would take the car in 1 year after the delivery date for its first scheduled oil change. Personally I really don't like having the oil in the engine for that long, and from what I can tell, changing the oil more frequently doesn't hurt.
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      08-16-2009, 10:11 PM   #10
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drive it like it's a rental.
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when i get back home at the end of the month, what should i have done to the car besides oil/filter change? should i reset the ECU using the accelerator method? Should i have any other fluids changed?
You should DRIVE the car and don't worry.

Read your manual, there is NOTHING that needs done at this "special" moment.

For me, I'm waiting for the ECU to let me know when to change my oil, just like I've done with my '06 A4 and my '03 325i, both ran strong and burned no oil following the ECU oil change interval.

I know, we've all read all the threads on this issue, and no amount of actual science or technological information or mechanics will change the mindset of those who "feel better" throwing out good oil, and those who "feel" it's "cheap insurance" to change out good oil more often.
But, I won't go there.
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Where are you guys hearing that a post break-in oil change should be done? Im at a little over 2k miles and am not due for an oil change for 13k according to the car.
Many people buy into this. You don't have to change the oil at all.
This way early oil change is based on feelings and misconceptions, not on actual oil analysis or real technical/mechanical data.

Change your oil when your ECU tells you to, and you and your engine will be fine for a long time to come.
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Many people buy into this. You don't have to change the oil at all.
This way early oil change is based on feelings and misconceptions, not on actual oil analysis or real technical/mechanical data.

Change your oil when your ECU tells you to, and you and your engine will be fine for a long time to come.
So you're saying there is no possibility of metal shavings contaminating the oil during break-in? I want to know why, in your opinion, it was gospel truth to do an oil change at the end of preceding break-in regimens, but now, all of a sudden, it doesn't matter for an entire year? Either the previous regimen was insane or this one is. Which is it?
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Change the oil, differential and gear box fluids. Anyone who plans on keeping the car beyond the warranty and does not do this is asking for trouble. Read Roundel or Bimmer and listen to what Mike Miller has to say about BMW service now and prior to "free-swrvice".
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      08-17-2009, 03:05 PM   #15
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Change the oil, differential and gear box fluids. Anyone who plans on keeping the car beyond the warranty and does not do this is asking for trouble. Read Roundel or Bimmer and listen to what Mike Miller has to say about BMW service now and prior to "free-swrvice".
Do you have a link or that - or can you post a brief summary of the article? I don't have access to Roundel.
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      08-17-2009, 03:14 PM   #16
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Change the oil, differential and gear box fluids. Anyone who plans on keeping the car beyond the warranty and does not do this is asking for trouble. Read Roundel or Bimmer and listen to what Mike Miller has to say about BMW service now and prior to "free-swrvice".
how much will this run me?
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      08-17-2009, 07:34 PM   #17
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Do you have a link or that - or can you post a brief summary of the article? I don't have access to Roundel.
Check this sticky from the Maintenance section:
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209718
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So you're saying there is no possibility of metal shavings contaminating the oil during break-in? I want to know why, in your opinion, it was gospel truth to do an oil change at the end of preceding break-in regimens, but now, all of a sudden, it doesn't matter for an entire year? Either the previous regimen was insane or this one is. Which is it?
Well, that's a loaded question isn't it?
It's sort of like, "So, have you stopped beating your wife yet?"
If you say "yes", then you're a wife beater. If you say "no" then you're a wife beater.

So, the answer to your question is, I didn't say that, and you can check my post for accuracy of my answer.

All oil becomes contaminated over it's life, as that is the nature of oil and a major reason why it needs to be changed.

What regimens are your referring too, where it was gospel truth?
If you're referring to maintenance procedures and intervals used on vehicles prior to the past decade or two, the reason why things are different now, is because manufacturing is better, casting is better now, oil's and lubricants are more advanced now, in general auto manufacturing along with it's ancillary fluid needs have advanced. Is a new Intel i7 processor different than Intel processors from even 5 yrs ago?
Yes. Are there things we used to have to do with Windows95 to keep our systems running well, that we don't need to do or do the same way in Windows XP or Vista? Yes. It may seem like modern cars are just like cars from 20yrs ago as we still have engines, rubber tires, run on gasoline, use oil to lubricate, etc..., but in reality things are not the same.

If you REALLY want to know if you should change your oil sooner than later, the simply have an oil analysis done at various mileage intervals. Then, you'll actually have real data on which to base your decision on.

As far as those articles that claim that every single fluid needs to be changed so that some subsequent or rare owner will have a perfect running machine once it's past 150k miles, well, frankly I don't care. I do not intend to own any car for longer than 10yrs, especially cars that are not rare.
Doing all the extra maintenance so that I can increase the chances that an owner 10yrs from now MIGHT have less problems is really not something I'm too concerned with. Even if I intended to keep my 135i for 10yrs, my mileage would be less than 120k based on how much I drive now. I have actually owned a car from new to 10yrs with 140k miles when I sold it. At the point it still ran great. This was a 1990 Mits/Chrysler Eclipse/Laser TURBO. Older tech to be sure. I did regular and typical car enthusiast maintenance to it. I changed the oil at 3k miles because for the first 2 yrs of it's life I didn't use synthetic. Once I switched to Mobil 1 synth my oil change interval was about 7k miles.

So, for me, I use my own direct experience on how much and how often certain maintenance "needs" to be done. I'm not using just one car to form my opinions, knowledge, or experience. The above car is just one of the many cars I've owned. That one just happens to be a car that I kept for a decade cause I really liked that car.
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how much will this run me?
Not much if you're doing the work. The cost of materials and fluids is actually quite inexpensive.
If you're going to take on the higher maintenance level of a true enthusiast, then you really need to learn how to do these things yourself.
Someone who just writes checks for the extra care isn't a true auto enthusiast to me, that's just a brand owner with money.

That was not meant to be personal. It's just my opinion on owners versus enthusiasts.
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Change the oil, differential and gear box fluids. Anyone who plans on keeping the car beyond the warranty and does not do this is asking for trouble. Read Roundel or Bimmer and listen to what Mike Miller has to say about BMW service now and prior to "free-swrvice".
With the exception of M models, BMW hasn't called for a break-in oil change for well over a decade. Which auto companies still recommend an early change?

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The old service intervals that Mike Miller has such a hardon for predate BMW's use of synthetic fluids. BMW had free oil services before there were 15k intervals.
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The old service intervals that Mike Miller has such a hardon for predate BMW's use of synthetic fluids. BMW had free oil services before there were 15k intervals.
Eggzactly!
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