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      05-05-2015, 12:06 AM   #155
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If anyone is interested I can throw up some before and after pics. Mine also has Dinan Camber Plates on there which raises the front 1/4 inch.
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Here's my before after pics.

This is when I got the car back in June 2013 on stock suspension, stock alignment, and stock stagerred 215/40R18 + 245/35R18 RunFlat RE-050 tires.



This is the car now with -3.2* camber in the front and -1.8* in the rear. It has M3 front control arms, camber plates, swift spec-r springs, bilstein b8 dampers, and front+rear 255/35R18 Dunlop ZII tires (apologies for crappy cellular phone pics and dirty car):


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      05-05-2015, 07:12 AM   #157
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Here's my before after pics.

This is when I got the car back in June 2013 on stock suspension, stock alignment, and stock stagerred 215/40R18 + 245/35R18 RunFlat RE-050 tires.



This is the car now with -3.2* camber in the front and -1.8* in the rear. It has M3 front control arms, camber plates, swift spec-r springs, bilstein b8 dampers, and front+rear 255/35R18 Dunlop ZII tires (apologies for crappy cel pic and dirty car):
[url]https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/suspension/20150505_072724.jpg?

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Rear tire and fender:
How do you find the ride comfort for daily driving? I found the Swifts to be a tad harsh on the bumps.
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How do you find the ride comfort for daily driving? I found the Swifts to be a tad harsh on the bumps.
They are just right. Less vertical travel/swing over bumps. Better absorption of most bumps. Better road feal, and more NVH in a good way, if that's makes sense. I feal and hear pavement surface grip changes more easily, etc.

Going over moderate potholes will send a shockwave through the suspension and make me cringe over the possibility of bending a wheel or suspension arm, or mushrooming of my strut towers.
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They are just right. Less vertical travel/swing over bumps. Better absorption of must bumps. Better road feal, and more NVH in a good way, if that's makes sense. I feal and hear pavement surface grip changes more easily, etc.

Going over moderate potholes will send a shockwave through the suspension and make me cringe over the possibility of bending a wheel or suspension arm, or mushrooming of my strut towers.
Very nice

Btw my Canada geography is terrible but do you frequent Mosport? I'm considering going up in July.
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Very nice

Btw my Canada geography is terrible but do you frequent Mosport? I'm considering going up in July.
Never been at Mosport. It's about a 6 hour drive for me, but Ive heard good things about that track. It is a very challenging with elevation and pavement changes.

I have access to three tracks within 1 hour of where I live (Autodrome St-Eustache, Mirabel ICAR, and Mt. Tremblant.
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128i M-Sport Suspension w/B12

If any of you are still out there, I need some advice.
I have a 128i with M-Sport Suspension 90k miles.
For street fun and autocross.
I would like to upgrade the stock dampers (and springs if possible?)
The dampers are due to be replaced anyhow I'm sure.
Springs, I'm not so sure about?
If I keep the stock M-Sport springs, which Bilsteins would match the springs?
As much as I would like to go with the B12 Pro Kit I can't afford to lower the front any more than it is now. (Fronts were rubbing where the fender/bumper connect going over speed bumps and in to driveways. It has self clearanced) However, if the front springs are sagging and the B12 springs would actually keep the front where it is, I'd be a happy man.

I should add that when auto crossing, the front suspension bottoms out in tight corners. I figure new dampers would help, springs and dampers would be much better.
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17x8 40mm offset 225/45
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      08-02-2020, 01:13 PM   #162
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Yikes - I think the suspension is quite tired which is causing some of your problems. There is a lot of back and forth on what dampers best match M-Sport. People have had success with either the B6 or B8. B8 for anything lower than m-sport for sure, b6 for non-sport and maybe even M-Sport.

Spring sag could be a thing, also a lower/stiffer spring is going to help prevent things bottoming out.

If you want to maintain close to stock ride height and don't want something super stiff see if you can find BMW performance springs, pair them with B8 dampers and call it a day....If you add Dinan camber plates up front you will gain 5mm of clearance/height, and improve front end grip due to the camber, as well as gain more clearance also due to camber.
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Yikes - I think the suspension is quite tired which is causing some of your problems. There is a lot of back and forth on what dampers best match M-Sport. People have had success with either the B6 or B8. B8 for anything lower than m-sport for sure, b6 for non-sport and maybe even M-Sport.

Spring sag could be a thing, also a lower/stiffer spring is going to help prevent things bottoming out.

If you want to maintain close to stock ride height and don't want something super stiff see if you can find BMW performance springs, pair them with B8 dampers and call it a day....If you add Dinan camber plates up front you will gain 5mm of clearance/height, and improve front end grip due to the camber, as well as gain more clearance also due to camber.

Thanks for the advise. That will give me some different options to look in to for sure. I was pretty sold on the Bilstein B12 pro kit but was worried about tire rub up front. The Dinan camber plates may be the ticket for that. I found BMW Performance springs for E82 but the are $400 set. Probably not too bad for what you're getting. But with B8's the set up will be over $1k. I can do the B12 for around $700. But if...but if....hmmm.
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      08-02-2020, 03:40 PM   #164
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Thanks for the advise. That will give me some different options to look in to for sure. I was pretty sold on the Bilstein B12 pro kit but was worried about tire rub up front. The Dinan camber plates may be the ticket for that. I found BMW Performance springs for E82 but the are $400 set. Probably not too bad for what you're getting. But with B8's the set up will be over $1k. I can do the B12 for around $700. But if...but if....hmmm.
I was just about to comment your car looks slammed, especially considering the 17" wheels. Do you know if the car has the OE springs? If you bought it 2nd hand maybe the previous owner had changed the springs.

Depending on how your car is optioned (ie weight) the B12 kit might not be that low.
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      08-02-2020, 04:05 PM   #165
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Thanks for the advise. That will give me some different options to look in to for sure. I was pretty sold on the Bilstein B12 pro kit but was worried about tire rub up front. The Dinan camber plates may be the ticket for that. I found BMW Performance springs for E82 but the are $400 set. Probably not too bad for what you're getting. But with B8's the set up will be over $1k. I can do the B12 for around $700. But if...but if....hmmm.
Originally purchased the B12 kit, but I'm a bit worried about the car scraping. Going with the B8+BMWP Springs combo. Ordered the springs from Tischer, should be here in a couple weeks. Will update once they're installed.

Also, keep in mind that you'll likely need to refresh stuff like shock mounts and other suspension hardware. Turner has a kit that was going for ~$235 when I ordered last week.
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I was just about to comment your car looks slammed, especially considering the 17" wheels. Do you know if the car has the OE springs? If you bought it 2nd hand maybe the previous owner had changed the springs.

Depending on how your car is optioned (ie weight) the B12 kit might not be that low.
I did buy it used. and according to records, is all stock with M-Sport Suspension option.
Those pics in are kind of deceiving.
First pic was in a hard corner accelerating and bottoming the left front spring out.
Second pic was from an elevated view point.


Here it is with the stock 17's:
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Originally purchased the B12 kit, but I'm a bit worried about the car scraping. Going with the B8+BMWP Springs combo. Ordered the springs from Tischer, should be here in a couple weeks. Will update once they're installed.

Also, keep in mind that you'll likely need to refresh stuff like shock mounts and other suspension hardware. Turner has a kit that was going for ~$235 when I ordered last week.
Thanks for the advise and info. Please do update.
After Asbrr's comments I'm very interested in this set up.
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I did buy it used. and according to records, is all stock with M-Sport Suspension option.
Those pics in are kind of deceiving.
First pic was in a hard corner accelerating and bottoming the left front spring out.
Second pic was from an elevated view point.


Here it is with the stock 17's:
That looks pretty normal.
Nice looking car!
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That looks pretty normal.
Nice looking car!
Thanks man!
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Originally purchased the B12 kit, but I'm a bit worried about the car scraping. Going with the B8+BMWP Springs combo. Ordered the springs from Tischer, should be here in a couple weeks. Will update once

Also, keep in mind that you'll likely need to refresh stuff like shock mounts and other suspension hardware. Turner has a kit that was going for ~$235 when I ordered last week.

Papa Popov,
Does your car have M-Sport suspension from the factory?
Would you measure the distance from center of wheel and bottom of fender, before and after?
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      08-05-2020, 05:20 PM   #171
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Papa Popov,
Does your car have M-Sport suspension from the factory?
Would you measure the distance from center of wheel and bottom of fender, before and after?
Yes it does. I'll grab some measurements for ya when the car is on level ground. Likely won't be until I go to install the new stuff in a couple weeks though.
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      08-17-2020, 02:58 PM   #172
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Just to add to this thread. This is my car on Eibach Pro-kit and Bilstein B8s (basically the B12 kit bought separately). This is fully settled in with around 40K-50K miles on it and Apex EC-7 1 series fitment wheels (265/35-18 Rear, 235/40-18 Front).

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STOCK non-sport with about 30K miles (on Style 197s)


B12 immediately after install (about 50 miles on them with 197s)
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