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02-25-2019, 12:05 PM | #1 |
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Looking for track tire
Well, still snow covered here in the North but wondering about getting new track tires for my 135. Bought extra set of wheels, looking for others' experiences with "off" brands. Federal RS-RR is my go to right now, any thoughts on Nexen or Toyo, etc? Basically stock car with TC Klein coils. Need something better than last years MPSS.
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02-25-2019, 04:16 PM | #3 |
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Thanks, the Nexen seems to be priced pretty close to the RE-71. Just being a beginner on the track, I don't need the best tire, just good...if that makes sense. Price would be more important than ultimate performance. Which made me look at the Federal in the first place.
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I run hankook Rs-4 pretty solid tire doesn't get too greasy towards the end of a 20 minute session. Overall wear is good will probably get 3 seasons out of these tires.
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I've seen very, very good things about the Falken Azenis RT615K+. I shopped between those and my Firestone Firehawk Indy 500's, the FFI500's were cheaper and had a good rebate going for them at the time. If the Falken's were cheaper, I'd have certainly gone for those, as they are a much more track-oriented tire.
Are you looking at a track-exclusive tire, or a tire to drive to the track, go full send, then drive home?
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02-27-2019, 08:40 AM | #7 |
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Actually looking for a tire that I will use for track only, but could drive short distance to the track....meaning I have a set of street tires but would use these just for the track. Heard good things about the Falkens, but surprised at the RS-4 lasting so long. Need to take that into account for sure.
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02-27-2019, 09:19 AM | #8 |
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To further clarify for the RS4 usually do 3-5 days a year and drive 3k miles on it in the summer months.
Also curious if the Falkens are good on track, thought they were mainly used for AutoX. |
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The Sur4G, RivalS and RE71R are three fastest 200trdw tires ( fairly objectively) - Most sanctioning visited consider these tires equivalent to 100trdw tires. The RivalS and RE71Rs also wear out very fast.
Will you just be doing track days or also competitive events with tire tread wear rules? The RSRR tires are great for the price, I Tab those forever butthe RE71R/RivalS are going to be the fastest tires at the expense of tire life. They're also addictive, hard to go back to a slower tire once you try one of the above "cheater" tires. I've heard the Sur4G tires last longer at the expense of overall grip but are still competitive... Same goes for the RS4s.
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Depends how fast you want to go. Federal RS-RR are nice because they pretty much cost $400 per set regardless of tire size. In terms of lap times, they are comparable to the older Hankook RS3, or even a heatcycled out RE71R.
Had two bad experiences with the Nexen SUR4 having premature delamination, causing me to actually pass on a free replacement set. Lost enough track time from them and didn't want to risk a full-on blow out at race pace.
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Big fan of the Falken Azenis RT615K+s here. Good tire life, good communication and feel.
Not a fan of the BFG Rivals - wear was abysmal. Might be that I have more experience now, but the car wanted to push a lot more with the BFGs than the Falkens. |
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Leaning towards Hankook RS4 right now. Cost more than Federals but seem to last a lot longer. And they sound like they handle heat very well. At this point not looking for the fastest tire, maybe when these wear out.
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I LOVE wet track days! The lack of traction exposes poor lines and mistakes that I make on a dry track that would otherwise be masked by grippy tires.
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I get the desire for track tires and I’m not going to talk you out of them. I would say the RE71 will be the outright grippiest tire but the cost per session will be high because of the wear rate. A tick behind is the RS 4 and it has a longer wear life and will be cheaper to run for sure. I’d recommend the RS-4 and I’ve been tracked on my Firehawk Indy 500’s 225/255 just to see how the car felt.
Will these track tires be staggered or a square setup? I’ve heard the Federals run very wide and I know several guys who where very disappointed with them despit the hype. |
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I have the Indy 500's and I like them (225/255). Good performance for $. I'm not competing so a sticky R compound is not necessary. Just want something I can drive all summer and track a couple times per year. My $0.02 anyway.
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