all of you dct haters

AGAV13 · 07-11-2014, 11:01 PM

I have to say I miss a manual, however I love my DCT. The only thing I have to complain of is tonight was the first time I brought my car to redline in manual and sport and it shifted to 2nd then 3rd for me by itself. I know the car is "saving" itself by not bouncing off of redline, but I would still like to know that it would if I wanted it to.

Esteban · 07-11-2014, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TJ710

It has been a couple weeks now and I haven't noticed any set backs. It's smooth consistently(so far). It pains me to admit that the exhaust is much quieter now and I even have the Corsa Exhaust on. PPK is the next thing on my mind.

Get it you will not regret it! Besides providing more power, PPK provides all kinds of popping and crackling on overrun. I have PE so not sure how it will sound with Corsa but can't imagine you will not get all that wonderful noise. I had PE first and didn't get the popping and crackling till after I got PPK. Save yourself some money and get PPK1. PPK2 cost more because it comes with cooling hardware which you will not need unless you track your car.

TJ710 · 07-11-2014, 11:26 PM

How much did you pay for the PPK install? Pm if you wanna be private about it.

Esteban · 07-11-2014, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TJ710

How much did you pay for the PPK install? Pm if you wanna be private about it.

You must mean me, right? To tell you the truth, I don't remember and I don't know where the invoice is. That was back in 2011. I think it's cheaper now and you can probably talk 'em down a little. I always try, anyway. Usually they're willing.

Overpar56 · 07-12-2014, 06:41 AM

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You must mean me, right? To tell you the truth, I don't remember and I don't know where the invoice is. That was back in 2011. I think it's cheaper now and you can probably talk 'em down a little. I always try, anyway. Usually they're willing.

I paid $720 + $150 for install. Local dealer had a June discount.

Bigiggs · 07-12-2014, 12:21 PM

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Oooo I'll play.

CVT? Still too much work. Why don't u DCT pussies get the google car. You won't have to do anything cuz changing gears and steering is too hard, plus you'll have lots of time to powder your labias.

This is by far one of the funniest comments I have ever read on this forum.

Thanks for the laughs!

CAVU · 07-12-2014, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RickMsport

I've heard it said that with a manual transmission on a turbo engine you lose boost when you engage the clutch, so for cars with turbo engines, the DCT superior.

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Faster, yes. Superior?

I was kinda hoping to point the discussion in the technical direction by posting an idea overheard at a well-respected tuning shop. Does anybody have ideas on whether or not you lose boost when you engage the clutch?

P7X · 07-12-2014, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by P7X

Oooo I'll play.

CVT? Still too much work. Why don't u DCT pussies get the google car. You won't have to do anything cuz changing gears and steering is too hard, plus you'll have lots of time to powder your labias.

This is by far one of the funniest comments I have ever read on this forum.

Thanks for the laughs!

justinmj · 07-13-2014, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by P7X

Many LOLs...thank you!

Esteban · 07-13-2014, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RickMsport

I was kinda hoping to point the discussion in the technical direction by posting an idea overheard at a well-respected tuning shop. Does anybody have ideas on whether or not you lose boost when you engage the clutch?

It make sense that you would lose boost. It makes sense because the rpm's also drop when you engage the clutch, no matter how fast you shift. It has been proven more than once that 0 to 60 times are faster with a DCT compared to a manual. Boost is where the power comes from so maybe that also has something to do with why the DCT is faster.

cagekicker · 07-27-2014, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by fcman

If you care about feel you bought the wrong car. Can't wait to get myself back into a proper sports car and retire this thing to DD duty.

how you figure that? i bought the perfect size to power ratio car i can afford. im extremely happy with my purchase. i love my bimmer!!! do you?

the1andonly · 07-27-2014, 10:47 PM

Lease is ending in fall on my 128 manual and Im looking at possible other options. one dealer had two 135i DCT with 4-6k off new price. I test drove, and while the engine power is smooth and strong, overall the drive was bleh, soft, tame, uninspiring. I swear I would mash petal to the floor and be able to fully count to 2 before the engine did anything. One time, the engine actually reved way up to 5-6 rpms AFTER I took foot off accelerator! My manual is quick, responsive and instantly on tap. Them having DCT and not manual was the deciding factor that made me pass on those otherwise excellent cars.

To each his own, but not for me.

Esteban · 07-28-2014, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by the1andonly

Lease is ending in fall on my 128 manual and Im looking at possible other options. one dealer had two 135i DCT with 4-6k off new price. I test drove, and while the engine power is smooth and strong, overall the drive was bleh, soft, tame, uninspiring. I swear I would mash petal to the floor and be able to fully count to 2 before the engine did anything. One time, the engine actually reved way up to 5-6 rpms AFTER I took foot off accelerator! My manual is quick, responsive and instantly on tap. Them having DCT and not manual was the deciding factor that made me pass on those otherwise excellent cars.

To each his own, but not for me.

Try a 135i and DCT with PPK installed or a 135is and DCT. 0 to 60 in about 4.5 seconds. A 128i with or without a manual? Not even close!

Andrewcoja · 07-28-2014, 07:18 AM

Did you ever take it out of automatic mode? Either that or it was a rebadged 128. Put it in sport mode and press the sport button. You'll be surprised how much it picks up.

darkrom · 07-28-2014, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by EvenEsteban

Try a 135i and DCT with PPK installed or a 135is and DCT. 0 to 60 in about 4.5 seconds. A 128i with or without a manual? Not even close!

Or.....

Try a 6MT N54 with JB4. Smoke the 135is with ease, and a fat pile of cash cheaper to put into other mods if you want.

bmw1racer · 07-28-2014, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by EvenEsteban

Try a 135i and DCT with PPK installed or a 135is and DCT. 0 to 60 in about 4.5 seconds. A 128i with or without a manual? Not even close!

You're comparing apples to oranges, huh?

Esteban · 07-28-2014, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by darkrom

Or.....

Try a 6MT N54 with JB4. Smoke the 135is with ease, and a fat pile of cash cheaper to put into other mods if you want.

This is true but I don't want! Only BMW OEM products for my baby. I want my car to LAST for a long, long time.

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You're comparing apples to oranges, huh?

Yeah, but only because the1andonly was and i'm just showing him how different they are!

drewnel22 · 07-28-2014, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by EvenEsteban

I don't want! Only BMW OEM products for my baby. I want my car to LAST for a while.

Those OEM BMW HPFP, vanos bolts, water pumps were great too weren't they??

I'll take an aftermarket tune such as JB4 or Cobb over the PPK any day. Cheaper and more power.

Esteban · 07-28-2014, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 10splaya22

Those OEM BMW HPFP, vanos bolts, water pumps were great too weren't they??

I'll take an aftermarket tune such as JB4 or Cobb over the PPK any day. Cheaper and more power.

Yeah, but all those parts you mentioned are replaced for free and you go ahead and take whatever tune you want. BMW knows how much horsepower is safe for their cars and that's good enough for me.

drewnel22 · 07-28-2014, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by EvenEsteban

Yeah, but all those parts you mentioned are replaced for free and you go ahead and take whatever tune you want. BMW knows how much horsepower is safe for their cars and that's good enough for me.

All I was trying to say was just because it OEM doesn't mean its the best quality or reliability. There are many cases where aftermarket parts are cheaper, more reliable and work better. Although that's not always the case, there are plenty of parts that are very well documented to work better than OEM.

Esteban · 07-28-2014, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 10splaya22

All I was trying to say was just because it OEM doesn't mean its the best quality or reliability. There are many cases where aftermarket parts are cheaper, more reliable and work better. Although that's not always the case, there are plenty of parts that are very well documented to work better than OEM.

I agree with you to a certain extent but I don't think aftermarkets tunes are one of them. Also, I have a warranty and possible extended warranty to deal with.

drewnel22 · 07-28-2014, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by EvenEsteban

I agree with you to a certain extent but I don't think aftermarkets tunes are one of them. Also, I have a warranty and possible extended warranty to deal with.

Well being in warranty I would say stay OEM so its covered. That makes sense.

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AGAV13 Captain 804 Rep 952 Posts Drives: AW 135is (#363/586) Join Date: May 2012 Location: CT 860 iTrader: (2)	I have to say I miss a manual, however I love my DCT. The only thing I have to complain of is tonight was the first time I brought my car to redline in manual and sport and it shifted to 2nd then 3rd for me by itself. I know the car is "saving" itself by not bouncing off of redline, but I would still like to know that it would if I wanted it to. __________________ CURRENT 2017 Boxster S ?718? (07/27/18) 2018 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon Recon - (10/28/18) SOLD 2013 BMW 135is #363/586 - AW, Black Boston Leather w/ Exclusive Blue Stitching, Prem., Tech, DCT, Heated Seats, HK
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TJ710 Private First Class 35 Rep 120 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Edina, Mn iTrader: (0)	How much did you pay for the PPK install? Pm if you wanna be private about it.
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the1andonly Lieutenant 82 Rep 539 Posts Drives: black on black 128i manual Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: midwest iTrader: (0)	Lease is ending in fall on my 128 manual and Im looking at possible other options. one dealer had two 135i DCT with 4-6k off new price. I test drove, and while the engine power is smooth and strong, overall the drive was bleh, soft, tame, uninspiring. I swear I would mash petal to the floor and be able to fully count to 2 before the engine did anything. One time, the engine actually reved way up to 5-6 rpms AFTER I took foot off accelerator! My manual is quick, responsive and instantly on tap. Them having DCT and not manual was the deciding factor that made me pass on those otherwise excellent cars. To each his own, but not for me. __________________ Last edited by the1andonly; 07-27-2014 at 10:52 PM..
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Andrewcoja First Lieutenant 9 Rep 385 Posts Drives: 2011 135i MSport Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	Did you ever take it out of automatic mode? Either that or it was a rebadged 128. Put it in sport mode and press the sport button. You'll be surprised how much it picks up.
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