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      09-18-2008, 01:42 AM   #1
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BEWARE!!!! GT Haus aka Eisenhaus

Hey guys ran across this on E90 post. This company was the distributor for Eisenmann they were selling fake Eisenman exhaust for full price and burning people for thousands of dollars. Seems like they don't even post on there anymore after burning so many people. Just wanted to warn everybody of what this company did before there name change to get away from the bad PR.

MAIN THREAD
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112397&highlight=eisenhaus+fake

Another
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168234&highlight=fake+eisenmann

Another
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142744

They also burned some people on m5 board.
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60-m5-e61-m5-touring-discussion/123322-whats-deal-meisterschaft-exhaust.html

This is just a warning. I just want people to have this sort of information before they make a purchase.
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      09-18-2008, 01:53 AM   #2
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Oh wow...I guess I wont be doing business with them. Thanks for the info!
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BEWARE!!!! GT Haus aka Eisenhaus

Hey guys ran across this on E90 post. This company was the distributor for Eisenmann they were selling fake Eisenman exhaust for full price and burning people for thousands of dollars. Seems like they don't even post on there anymore after burning so many people. Just wanted to warn everybody of what this company did before there name change to get away from the bad PR.

MAIN THREAD
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112397&highlight=eisenhaus+fake

Another
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168234&highlight=fake+eisenmann

Another
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142744

They also burned some people on m5 board.
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60-m5-e61-m5-touring-discussion/123322-whats-deal-meisterschaft-exhaust.html

This is just a warning. I just want people to have this sort of information before they make a purchase.

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I have personally heard MANY horror stories about them selling fake exhaust's.
Not cool guys, Not cool.
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      09-18-2008, 02:40 AM   #4
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fake exhaust are like fake boobs - if i can feel em, they're real. just kidding
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Originally Posted by raolc View Post
BEWARE!!!! GT Haus aka Eisenhaus

Hey guys ran across this on E90 post. This company was the distributor for Eisenmann they were selling fake Eisenman exhaust for full price and burning people for thousands of dollars. Seems like they don't even post on there anymore after burning so many people. Just wanted to warn everybody of what this company did before there name change to get away from the bad PR.

MAIN THREAD
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112397&highlight=eisenhaus+fake

Another
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168234&highlight=fake+eisenmann

Another
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142744

They also burned some people on m5 board.
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60-m5-e61-m5-touring-discussion/123322-whats-deal-meisterschaft-exhaust.html

This is just a warning. I just want people to have this sort of information before they make a purchase.

+100000
While I admit their exhausts look nice they cheated hundreds of people out of thousands of dollars. Very poor business practices if you ask me. Notice how they do not even post on e90 any more and came on here with a different name to try to hide their shady past. I would not give them my money based solely on principle. Imagine dropping almost $3000.00 on an exhaust thinking you are buying a real deal german Eissenman only to find out it was a Korean knock-off. This happened to my friend. I was fortunate enough to get the real deal from them for my Benz, my neighbor however got shafted with a fake Eissenman. I saw one of the pics of the fake Eissenmans and they didnt even spell 335i correctly on it. The thing said 3351 on the muffler.
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Euno -- have you seen this thread? Your car would fit the ticket nicely

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14668
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I'm re-posting this announcement because it is true. GT Haus has nothing to hide regarding past practice. There was a short period of time that an agreement between Eisenhaus, the distributor and Eisenmann, the manufacturer to co-brand our proprietary product, Meisterschaft, along with Eisenmann products. As you can see by links offered on various forums it created quite a conflict for certain people. And in hindsight it was a poor choice in marketing and a business model that was not viable for a wide variety of reasons. The result has been explained in the letter above.

We at GT Haus certainly appreciate your concern about "knock-offs" and fake products. In discussions with the engineering staff and the operations manager, the following is stated for record.

We engineer for FITMENT PURPOSES to the Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) exhaust’s application of any vehicle for which we produce a Meisterschaft performance exhaust.
Then we prototype each of our exhausts for fitment.
We design the internal configuration for sound volume and quality, also performance gain using OUR PROPRIETORY and CONFIDENTIAL experience, methods, in-house engineering staff, and highest quality materials.

There is no reason and never has been a reason for this company to "copy" of create a "fake" of any other manufacturer's products. The sound and design when compared to any other are unique.

Please contact Huey Adams, the Operations Manager for GT Haus at 630 787 1600 to further discuss any issue about our product.
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So basically you change your name and post a letter and all the sudden the people you ripped off are ok? If you did nothing wrong you would not of changed your name? I wouldn't to business with your company.
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The new official importer for Eisenmann is http://www.beastpower.com

I'm surprised some of you guys never heard of this... it has been public knowledge for a while now. Being one of the companies i work with used to distribute for B.S Haus i will never do business with or recommend business to anyone related directly or indirectly to them.

They had everyone fooled for a while with their chinese eisenmann exhausts
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      09-18-2008, 04:36 PM   #10
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Sounds like fibre memories... Wonder how this one will go...

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I wish everyone would take Eisenmann's word for it all and take their attitude.
If you were one of the people that got ripped off for thousands of dollars. I'm sure your attitude would be different on the subject.
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      09-18-2008, 05:48 PM   #12
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So basically you change your name and post a letter and all the sudden the people you ripped off are ok? If you did nothing wrong you would not of changed your name? I wouldn't to business with your company.
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Business practices don't suddenly change with a new name and some nice words.
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      09-18-2008, 07:11 PM   #13
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Is it not reasonable to think a company can change given the chance? I bet all the angels on this site are glad they got 2nd, 3rd, 4th .... chances when they made mistakes.

I am suggesting give them a chance and see if they can come out better for all of us enthusiasts. Just an idea. They are off to a good start with my buying and service experience. I am not asking you to buy things from them or not warn people about past practices. Maybe some issues should be addressed in PMs?
Did you get burned?
No, I never dealt with them. I used to browse on e90 post for hours a day when i wanted a 335 before I heard about the 135 coming out. I remember hearing people talk about getting burned by shit fake products that they spent thousands for, and when I saw them come on this forums I just wanted to warn people. They can make their own decisions from here. Your one happy customer and there are plenty of unhappy customers. Not to mention of course I doubt your status of just a "customer". IMO your getting something to rep their product so they can build a good reputation. Thats my opinion, seeing as how your everywhere on these forums all of a sudden trying to rep their products. Nothing personal though, glad your happy with that exhaust, I'm just trying to get people to be aware of their past which even you said is fair. Now its their decision if they want to risk it.
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And I have yet to hear about any of the companies I do business with on here scamming people.

I'm sure they've made mistakes, but scamming is more than just a mistake to let go IMO. Scamming is a mindset that they have no problem cheating on their customers to make some extra cash. Even if now they are legit, which I highly doubt, I would not be surprised to see them jump back to their old ways. Again this is my opinion, I'm no psychologist but thats what I've seen from life experiences. Cheaters don't stop cheating. IMHO.
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Euno -- have you seen this thread? Your car would fit the ticket nicely

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14668
JRC,

Thanks for the heads up. I may just jump on this!!!
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Alright guys, enough is enough.
Dale, Thank you very much for chimming in here and sharing your experience.

Folks, we are no longer selling eisenmann products as we have previously stated on this very forum.
Since then we have been diligently cleaning up the issue with our absolute best effort.
There are now other companies are selling eisenmann products instead of us and we are now making and selling our own brand of products called "Meisterschaft"
We (GTHAUS) think it is very important and also our role in this community, to let people know we are not an eisenmann distributor anymore, yet we are selling our own Meisterschaft products. And we will do such in our fullest extent.

raolc, Dale is one of our great customers who had prolly spent less than 3 hours in GTHAUS shop out of his entire life time.
By any means, he is not biz relatd to our firm yet straight up customer for us and also for any others. Please do not tie your irrelevant issues with our royal customers here. We will not tolerate that on our end. Your action seems simply based on dis-repect attitude towards others. Hope this is not the case.
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My apologies to dale and you guys at gthaus. My original intentions were to put this information out there, didn't mean any disrespect. People have the information now and I'm done.
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Heres what the E90 post guys think after seeing them post on our forum....

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...96#post3342296
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The new official importer for Eisenmann is http://www.beastpower.com

I'm surprised some of you guys never heard of this... it has been public knowledge for a while now. Being one of the companies i work with used to distribute for B.S Haus i will never do business with or recommend business to anyone related directly or indirectly to them.

They had everyone fooled for a while with their chinese eisenmann exhausts
There's two official Eisenmann distributors.

IND-Distribution (Eisenmann NA) www.eisenmann-na.com
BeastPower (Eisenmann USA) www.eisenmann.us
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I agree with Dale 100%

Well said.

Everyone deserves a second chance in hard situations. They have the best exhausts, sound, looks, and quality. All the best guys.
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Heres what the E90 post guys think after seeing them post on our forum....

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...96#post3342296

Hate spreads faster than aids. Its the new thing now u know.
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