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      08-13-2012, 09:33 AM   #331
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its funny how the coupe ppl in here are trying so hard to justify their purchase by putting someone elses vehicle down. It seems like ya'll are a little jealous that the e88 look better, gets more attention and are more fun to drive in 95% of real world situations. The coupe is a little faster? This is the n54/55 we're talking about no? More power is cheap. How often do you take a .86g turn in everyday commuting?

Ive driven several e82s and many e88s and I can say unequivocally that the e88 is more fun to drive. You can't beat the top down/exhaust in your ear experience. FYI, I commute through Atlanta and the roads arent the best. If the e88 chasis is as bad as ya'll are making it out to be..I would have traded the car in by now..

Be happy with what you have and I'll be happier with my AW over coral red 6sp vert.
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Your coupe is a coupe as much as my Suburban is a sedan.
Ohh man you went full retard with this one.

Let me show you a picture of my ActiveE - its in the basement so sorry about the light. But I hope that this image clears things up.












Also you have a Suburban? Mr I drive 10/10s all the time and value lightness drives a 6000lb SUV?


But a Suburban Wagon...hmm. We can work with this concept.


The Station Wagon SUV - well call it a SAW for short. That has a nice ring to it?
Ohh well make a pedal powered variant and call it the hand-SAW. We can also throw in a few concepts from the Miura, a chain driven transimission.

Well call it the Chain-SAW.


I think you just made a lot of money for BMW.
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      08-13-2012, 12:36 PM   #334
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Frankly I wonder how many people purchase the coupe simply because they couldn't afford the convertible.
Probably less than or equal to the amount of people that purchased a 1 series because they couldn't afford a 3 series (read: not as many as some people would like to believe).

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its funny how the coupe ppl in here are trying so hard to justify their purchase by putting someone elses vehicle down. It seems like ya'll are a little jealous that the e88 look better, gets more attention and are more fun to drive in 95% of real world situations. The coupe is a little faster? This is the n54/55 we're talking about no? More power is cheap. How often do you take a .86g turn in everyday commuting?

Ive driven several e82s and many e88s and I can say unequivocally that the e88 is more fun to drive. You can't beat the top down/exhaust in your ear experience. FYI, I commute through Atlanta and the roads arent the best. If the e88 chasis is as bad as ya'll are making it out to be..I would have traded the car in by now..

Be happy with what you have and I'll be happier with my AW over coral red 6sp vert.
You think the E88 is unequivocally more fun to drive than the E82. However, some people don't share that view.

These comments aren't helping the vert owners' cause, here.



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      08-13-2012, 01:31 PM   #336
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Probably less than or equal to the amount of people that purchased a 1 series because they couldn't afford a 3 series (read: not as many as some people would like to believe).



You think the E88 is unequivocally more fun to drive than the E82. However, some people don't share that view.

These comments aren't helping the vert owners' cause, here.

This thread is amazing.
Nope, the funniest part is the people that didn't buy a vert, but continually thread crap in an attempt to feel important.

They like to say their car is stiffer, or something like that... Maybe an longing to make up for some other deficiency?
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I'm pretty sure there is really not very much cross shopping between the coupe and vert. People either want one or the other in a car and are going to be looking at 1er verts vs other verts and 1er coupes vs other coupes. Which is also why things like relative chassis stiffness between the two doesn't really matter either.
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Nope, the funniest part is the people that didn't buy a vert, but continually thread crap in an attempt to feel important.
This thread is nothing but threadcrapping from all sides.
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This thread is nothing but threadcrapping from all sides.
This thread has been dead for 14 pages.
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This thread has been dead for 14 pages.
I don't know about that, it actually sort of works as a disjointed communal stream of consciousnesses.

"I like to have fun, so i bought what I find fun"
"but its not stiff enough"
".... uh ok, but I don't really need stuff"
"but no really dude its just not stiff enough"
"... uh ok its not as stiff as yours, but it still gets the job done for me"
"NO DUDE IM TELLING YOU ITS NOT STIFF ENOUGH, and its probably too fat too"
"...... ok, I get it man stiff is good fat is bad"
"No I dont think you do its not stiff enough for you or me or anyone else"
"...."
"stiff"
"..."
"stiff"

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Not sure what it says but there definitely could be some hidden meaning to be interpreted there.
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You forgot where people come in with real logic - like show me hard data from real sources, or why does less stiff than a coupe mean crap, or I own a 1 series coupe and convertible therefore I actually have a basis for what im saying.

And they go...

Its not stiff enough. Its like talking to creationists about evolution!
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      08-13-2012, 02:02 PM   #342
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substitute your political or religious belief in for every coupe and convertible reference and this would still make the same amount of sense and be rather entertaining too. No one ever wins......
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And there you have it. The Stig says that the difference between a convertible and a coupe is the same as the difference between a coupe and a giant-sized SUV.

And if you opine otherwise, Obioban will be there to "correct" you.
Speaking of corrections... The stig was comparing brokenvert's active E coupe to other coupes, not a coupe to a convertible.

Your reading comprehension is... consistent.
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And there you have it. The Stig says that the difference between a convertible and a coupe is the same as the difference between a coupe and a giant-sized SUV.

And if you opine otherwise, Obioban will be there to "correct" you.
He was talking about my ActiveE.

He is saying that since my E weighs 4000lbs it no longer qualifies as a 1 series coupe somehow...
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      08-13-2012, 02:25 PM   #345
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Speaking of corrections... The stig was comparing brokenvert's active E coupe to other coupes, not a coupe to a convertible.

Your reading comprehension is... consistent.
I removed that post, but if you're going to be rude about it (again), I'll be happy to reply.

He clearly is in error comparing that coupe to a station wagon, and being insulting in the process. Just as you are being insulting in refusing to allow people to post their opinions. That IS what you're doing, however you want to put it. You're responding to people's opinions by putting them in their place, even though you have made exactly the same compromise yourself.

You're a hypocrit, and you're a snob. That's what you've shown this community with your participation here. Nice going.
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I didn't say anything about what it means to them (or doesn't). There is a significant performance difference, regardless of whether they care about that or not.

People are free to make whatever informed decision they want to with that info. I'm just against people saying it doesn't exist.
Sure you did. Here's where you did that:

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"As soon as people stop claiming there isn't a significant performance difference between the cars, I'll stop annoying you by posting facts that point out that there is."
You're welcome to amend that statement any time you like. But I've brought it up about six times now, and instead you've chosen to dodge it and pretend you didn't say it. (shrug)
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I just traded my 07 335 sedan for a 2012 Msport vert black top on white and I def didnt want to get another sedan and i definitely dont miss my sedan! nothing like driving with top down rowing through gears with the DCT. It handles better than my sedan as well!
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Sure you did. Here's where you did that:



You're welcome to amend that statement any time you like. But I've brought it up about six times now, and instead you've chosen to dodge it and pretend you didn't say it. (shrug)
I stand by those statements, they're not a matter of opinion. I have no desire to dodge or amend those statements in the slightest.

The opinion (subjective) part is whether that is important to you or if you prefer the vert experience enough that you're willing to give up some performance, practicality, and price for it. Whether it's meaningful to you or not, the penalty is still there.
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The opinion (subjective) part is whether that is important to you or if you prefer the vert experience enough that you're willing to give up some performance, practicality, and price for it. Whether it's meaningful to you or not, the penalty is still there.
Right, and you want to make sure that people know that the performance penalty is "significant". This in spite of the fact that "significant" is a matter of judgment and opinion, and the fact that you make the same compromise, simply drawing the line in a different place.
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Right, and you want to make sure that people know that the performance penalty is "significant". This in spite of the fact that "significant" is a matter of judgment and opinion, and the fact that you make the same compromise, simply drawing the line in a different place.
Of course! Everything about every car is a compromise. So long as people realize what compromise they're making, I have no problem with whatever decision they choose to make.
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He was talking about my ActiveE.

He is saying that since my E weighs 4000lbs it no longer qualifies as a 1 series coupe somehow...
It certainly is unrelated from a performance/driving dynamics standpoint to the 128i or the 135i.

It's no different then saying, I have a M5, I know how a 4 door M3 would drive.
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Can we somehow introduce the manual vs auto vs DCT argument into the vert vs coupe vs SUV argument...I think it would really spice things up and clarify for owners/potential owners which is crappiest. I just wanna make sure people understand how crappy their choice may have been. It'll be like a public service announcement!

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