Premium or Standard Audio?

[BMW Dreamer]

Once again. Does anybody know if the Premium Hi-Fi $875 option have a 7 band EQ besides the 100hz bass adjustment and 8khz treble adjustment ???

[Nice1]

Originally Posted by Jeff1962

Once again. Does anybody know if the Premium Hi-Fi $875 option have a 7 band EQ besides the 100hz bass adjustment and 8khz treble adjustment ???

i'm certain there's an equalizer but haven't found the band ranges yet in posts.

Originally Posted by larryn

You are not going to have mirror vibrating bass with this setup (nor do I want that). You can get some pretty decent booming out of it by playing with the equalizer settings (not just the bass & treble).

Originally Posted by larryn

My non iDrive Logic7 system in the 135i has functions that the standard audio system does not have, like two spacial soundfields, plus a graphic equalizer.

[1erich]

Originally Posted by Jeff1962

B4 I go any further I must tell you I have about $40,000 in stereo equipement, and I keep all my systems FLAT, no bass boost etc. I am a 35 year audio FREAK and I know more then 99.99% of all people about this subject. I usually go to stores and teach the salespeople about real systems.

The only reason I want an EQ to adjust the muddy bass and lackluster sound inside a car. The DSP might help but I hate certain frequencies like 400hz that muddy-up the low clean bass, and midrange. When I play CLEAN music I always leave it flat and crank up the WATTS. I have been trying to make people understand true sound and recording at a flat responce. I have some old BIG REAL home speakers that BLOW AWAY all the crap out here today. Flat setting and LOTS-A-WATTS. I know.

I'm just trying to help you make an educated decision and give some tips to others trying to decide between the two. If you think it helps by upping the treble +10, hey... it's your ears, but not something I would ever recommend to others. Perhaps 35 years of being blown away by "old BIG REAL speakers at LOTS-A-WATTS" may have something to do with this.

The "expert" with the obviously BS products layed a large area rug over his floor as people commonly do to treat a reflective surface such as hardwood. Who am I though, odds would say I'm in the 99.99% of the population who knows less than you.

[Red135]

Originally Posted by Jeff1962

B4 I go any further I must tell you I have about $40,000 in stereo equipement, and I keep all my systems FLAT, no bass boost etc. I am a 35 year audio FREAK and I know more then 99.99% of all people about this subject. I usually go to stores and teach the salespeople about real systems.

The only reason I want an EQ to adjust the muddy bass and lackluster sound inside a car. The DSP might help but I hate certain frequencies like 400hz that muddy-up the low clean bass, and midrange. When I play CLEAN music I always leave it flat and crank up the WATTS. I have been trying to make people understand true sound and recording at a flat responce. I have some old BIG REAL home speakers that BLOW AWAY all the crap out here today. Flat setting and LOTS-A-WATTS. I know.

Wow. I am sorry that you paid that much money and a 400 Hz signal would muddy up your system. I paid a lot less than that and my system plays 400 Hz as clean as can be. Of course my sub plays the 25 - 200 Hz range so the LFE's aren't affected and my fronts are capable of 65 - 22, 000 Hz so they handle the freq, but since my sub is powered they aren't muddied. But, you do supply "LOTS-A-WATTS" so I could be wrong.

[ScottyGams]

oh no you didn't!

[mrgoochio]

Originally Posted by Jeff1962

NOT a Civic Si sir. 350 watt 7 speakers with 8" sub.

350watt rms? My subs in my last car was running off a 1200watt amp Then theres the components.. :headbang:

[BMW Dreamer]

Originally Posted by mrgoochio

350watt rms? My subs in my last car was running off a 1200watt amp Then theres the components.. :headbang:

OH NO here we go again. I believe in this post I was just telling somebody a Civic Si system isn't a piece of shit. I wasn't bragging about it. Go back and read please. I know all about car and home audio. I was installing car systems as far back as the early 80's. I had a 1977 custom 4 door Impala back in 1982 that had a custom system that would blow your pants off. All separate components, monster cable, separate leaf tweeters, poly woofers, etc. I know all about car systems. I have been to several sound-offs and know that 350 watts isn't squat nowadays.

And in that post I don't think I said 350RMS (root mean square) I believe I said 350 watts total, peak, max. The 4 main channels have about 30RMS continuous, 50 peak, and the 8" sub has about 100RMS, 150 peak. So the 350 watt max-peak system has about 220 watts RMS total in all 5 channels.

[BMW Dreamer]

Originally Posted by john970

I heard the standard system yesterday, it was very standard sounding. More accurate than a system in say, a civic, but not what i was looking for.

Here is the post I was commenting on^^^ Sure a regular Civic might have a standard crappy system, but the 06-08 Civic Si system sounds much better.

[BMW Dreamer]

Originally Posted by Jeff1962

NOT a Civic Si sir. 350 watt 7 speakers with 8" sub.

^^^^No statements about RMS here^^^^

[mrgoochio]

I was being sarcastic, no need to get all jumpy on the subject. :eyebulge:

[BMW Dreamer]

Originally Posted by mrgoochio

I was being sarcastic, no need to get all jumpy on the subject. :eyebulge:

Facts, just the facts.

[ScottyGams]

its funny, i was just tooling around BMWUSA.com, and you can really tell Bimmer is trying to get better audio equipment available to the customer. The X6 has a 600 watt system, the M3 875! These are both 2008 intros, like the 1...

according to the PDF floating around here and E90Post, the Top hi-fi in the 1 has 380 watts max. It sucks that BMWUSA gives us no info on the website. This means dick, as we don't know the RMS wattage, nor do we know the speakers build quality. Can anybody give us info on this?

[Citizen Z]

BMW will install an after market head unit. This is why I opted not to get the sat-nav and premium hi-fi. Once they install the HU, I'm in like flynn.

[BMW Dreamer]

Originally Posted by Red135

Wow. I am sorry that you paid that much money and a 400 Hz signal would muddy up your system. I paid a lot less than that and my system plays 400 Hz as clean as can be. Of course my sub plays the 25 - 200 Hz range so the LFE's aren't affected and my fronts are capable of 65 - 22, 000 Hz so they handle the freq, but since my sub is powered they aren't muddied. But, you do supply "LOTS-A-WATTS" so I could be wrong.

The MUD at 400hz was in the car not in my home. I have 2 full surround systems with 5 subs total. No muddy bass @ home brah:wink:

[BMW Dreamer]

Originally Posted by ScottyGams

its funny, i was just tooling around BMWUSA.com, and you can really tell Bimmer is trying to get better audio equipment available to the customer. The X6 has a 600 watt system, the M3 875! These are both 2008 intros, like the 1...

according to the PDF floating around here and E90Post, the Top hi-fi in the 1 has 380 watts max. It sucks that BMWUSA gives us no info on the website. This means dick, as we don't know the RMS wattage, nor do we know the speakers build quality. Can anybody give us info on this?

With Infinity, Acura, Lexus etc all having very nice OEM systems BMW better improve. My Acura TL-S had one of the best 5.1 AC3 DVD-Audio, DTS-Audio systems I have ever heard. If it had 50% more power I would say it was the best I have ever heard in a car. But I also purchased some of the highest rated DVD, DTS Audio disc's.

[ScottyGams]

it's weird though, BMW only lists 205 watts of power in their 1 interactive site... RMS maybe?

I agree that other than very recently, BMW has been lagging in terms of performance. I may just install an aftermarket sub to help out...

[BMW Dreamer]

YAH, if you don't mind the added weight in the trunk. I mean so many people are bitching how HEAVY the 135i is, be careful adding subs if your in the TOO HEAVY crowd. You can easily add 100# with a good subwoofer, MDF box and amp.

You could buy a 10" Amplified Bazooka bass hose which is pretty light though.

[Jonny D]

Originally Posted by mikeo

I have the Standard Audio with USB/iPod option and find it very satisfactory. But I'm no audiophile.

Do the song titles and artist information from the iPod show on the display of the standard audio head unit?

[0002s]

Originally Posted by Jonny D

Do the song titles and artist information from the iPod show on the display of the standard audio head unit?

yes, so do albums and so on.

[atr_hugo]

FWIW, I ran an audio test on the premium stereo in the 135i last night. I use an organ recording (good recording - Delos CD 3047) which has about a 15 seconds C1 (32 Hz) pedal being played. It worked - OK reproduction with a bit of a POP at one point. Typical home systems strain to reproduce that (if they can at all) so it wasn't bad.

So far the premium audio has been pretty good. Is it worth the extra bucks? Meh . . . I think, if you can, spend some time listening to both, using recordings you are really familiar with, before ordering.

The option that I snuck in thinking it was a throw-away was HD radio. I'm really glad I got that now.

[BMW Dreamer]

Originally Posted by atr_hugo

FWIW, I ran an audio test on the premium stereo in the 135i last night. I use an organ recording (good recording - Delos CD 3047) which has about a 15 seconds C1 (32 Hz) pedal being played. It worked - OK reproduction with a bit of a POP at one point. Typical home systems strain to reproduce that (if they can at all) so it wasn't bad.

So far the premium audio has been pretty good. Is it worth the extra bucks? Meh . . . I think, if you can, spend some time listening to both, using recordings you are really familiar with, before ordering.

The option that I snuck in thinking it was a throw-away was HD radio. I'm really glad I got that now.

So you are glad you got the HD Radio option? How does it sound? Does it really make FM better? When I had XM in my Acura it sounded very flat compared to FM and CD's.

[BMW Dreamer]

Originally Posted by atr_hugo

FWIW, I ran an audio test on the premium stereo in the 135i last night. I use an organ recording (good recording - Delos CD 3047) which has about a 15 seconds C1 (32 Hz) pedal being played. It worked - OK reproduction with a bit of a POP at one point. Typical home systems strain to reproduce that (if they can at all) so it wasn't bad.

So far the premium audio has been pretty good. Is it worth the extra bucks? Meh . . . I think, if you can, spend some time listening to both, using recordings you are really familiar with, before ordering.

The option that I snuck in thinking it was a throw-away was HD radio. I'm really glad I got that now.

Sounds good. So I guess those shallow 8" subs do a decent job in a 1/4 cu.ft. enclosure. I am guessing the premium will be about 3dB louder than the standard. I am hard of hearing from many years of noisy work conditions. Thats 1 of the reasons I am highly considering the $875 option. Plus the 7 band eq and DSP.