08 C350 vs 135i

Legion5 · 09-23-2007, 12:57 AM

The 350's headlights just make me want to shoot the car, the driver and the dude who made it. It seems like the designers slipped on their mousepads when desinging the front body.

"Oh fuck, not again, the Parkinson's is acting up"

"Oh wait that looks good, keep it!"

"Time to hit that medical reefer once more!"

Seriously, they look like sensors arrays from a sci-fi action figure. I half expect them to shoot proton rays at me and turn into micro-rocket launchers to help fight the war on terror.

On the S class, they can almost pull it off when looking at the car coming towards you because the body is so nice otherwise, however on this c350 ride the headlights just destroy the flow of the vehicle's lines.

BMW's headlamps I would put in a museum, Mercedes' headlamps, I would shove into the shoulder pod weapon of a Predator in the AVP universe.

To be honest I think a little carbon fiber splashes and a redesign in the headlamp area would help to break up simultaneously overdone and underdone problems going on and do WONDERS for the car. Doing design myself, I just can't see how Mercedes decided to be into these unfinished headlamps, they are not cool and Mercedes is not cool.

The CL class does headlamps WAYY better with bits of this black plastic, however the ENTIRE rest of the result is ruined in the CL's case because no matter how you stare at the CL it looks like a dying animal crossed with some sort of banana.

Don't get me wrong I would be thrilled to drive any of these cars, just like I would be thrilled to accept an emmy award with my name on it right after 50 cent had taken a huge fresh dump on the trophy. However that's the point isn't it...

If I actually had to pay for things I would keep a bank roll or two and opt for the Grammy in that line, a BMW. It looks blander but at least bimmer designers do not arrive on the job after having hit a crack pipe, or their heads on a large object.

jraymond · 09-24-2007, 02:06 PM

No manual tranny makes me want to BARF! Hell, I have one in my X3.

kurichan · 09-24-2007, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ducati

You suck at the internet today.

ibeam81 · 09-24-2007, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ducati

And it was mostly the other way 'round. Chrysler used many sweet Mercedes parts. IIRC the 300 was a last-gen E class chassis.

And the Crossfire was based upon the last generation SLK.

ppDoc · 09-24-2007, 06:09 PM

well i'm test driving that car in about 2 weeks so i'll write you guys a report on how the auto transmission feels like. it has 7 gears so let's see if it's worth the hype that MB created.

qaz393 · 09-24-2007, 10:07 PM

bmw interior are so cheap. the 3 series without navigation looks so weird and empty. benz has better quality than bmw for sure

krassanova · 09-25-2007, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by qaz393

bmw interior are so cheap. the 3 series without navigation looks so weird and empty. benz has better quality than bmw for sure

I think your post was more weird and empty than any BMW interior. What does a nav system, or lack of a nav system have anything to do with interior quality, fit and finish? Anyway, thanks for your generalizations about BMWs and Mercs.

NJKSC27 · 09-25-2007, 08:00 AM

and MB's nav sucks

blue-coupe · 09-25-2007, 08:42 AM

I would definately would consider the MB350. I haven't seen one in person, but the pictures look pretty sweet. One thing I think they could change would be to pull the back wheel further toward the rear by about 3-4 inches.

Also interested in the A5, just keeping my fingers crossed on the pricing.

1ster · 09-25-2007, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by blue-coupe

Also interested in the A5, just keeping my fingers crossed on the pricing.

Audi has the most aggressive pricing of any of the German brands. Expect the A5 to be priced between the 3-Series and the 5-Series. Not remotely worth it, IMHO.

schnell330i · 09-25-2007, 09:38 AM

#1. 0-60: C350 (6.0) 135i (around 4.6)

#2. Car comparos in magazines say the C350 doesnt even come close to the 335i, and c&d says the C350 decreased in performace in every area compared to the last gen C350.

#3. The m-b 63 amg engines are 6.2 liters and are naturally aspirated, not bi-turbo

So it comes down to a lot of style, not much substance, and $40,000+ (C350)
Or a lot of style, tons of substace, and around $35,000 (135i)

hector · 09-25-2007, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 1ster

Audi has the most aggressive pricing of any of the German brands. Expect the A5 to be priced between the 3-Series and the 5-Series. Not remotely worth it, IMHO.

indeed, audi is doing with the 5 what bmw did with the 6, that is price the coupe much higher than the sedan; makes the e92 a relative bargain compared to the a5(and might i add compared to the 6er)

NJKSC27 · 09-25-2007, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by blue-coupe

Also interested in the A5, just keeping my fingers crossed on the pricing.

not to jump on the bandwagon but the A5 will be way overpriced

blue-coupe · 09-26-2007, 12:51 PM

I agree that audi overprices thier cars, and the A5 will probably be out of my range, but it's still pretty sweet. I do like the pricing on used audi's though!

Speaking of overpriced....What the hell are they thinking on the A3? That thing is through-the-roof expensive for its class.

1ster · 09-26-2007, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by blue-coupe

Speaking of overpriced....What the hell are they thinking on the A3? That thing is through-the-roof expensive for its class.

Yes it is. Give me a 4-door GTI for $24,000 instead, thanks.

The worst offender is the TT. I love fast/sporty cars, but the appeal of the TT has always been lost on me. :iono:

SCA · 09-26-2007, 01:03 PM

As I child I grew up with Mercedes-Benz. Mercedes are built to do two things very well, going in a straight line and do it rather comfortably. If you want an automobile that can take the curves and has the ability to feel road, then BMW does it far superior to the Benz.

NJKSC27 · 09-26-2007, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUltimateDriver

As I child I grew up with Mercedes-Benz. Mercedes are built to do two things very well, going in a straight line and do it rather comfortably. If you want an automobile that can take the curves and has the ability to feel road, then BMW does it far superior to the Benz.

AGREED

mateo · 09-26-2007, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MrRoboto

Daimler sold Chrysler.

Yes they did. After the car was conceived. I'm sure it has its share of chrysler parts on it.

-Mateo

mateo · 09-26-2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUltimateDriver

As I child I grew up with Mercedes-Benz. Mercedes are built to do two things very well, going in a straight line and do it rather comfortably. If you want an automobile that can take the curves and has the ability to feel road, then BMW does it far superior to the Benz.

QFT...End of story!!!

-Mateo

NJKSC27 · 09-26-2007, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mateo

QFT...End of story!!!

-Mateo

QFT?

krassanova · 09-26-2007, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NJKSC27

QFT?

Quite F-ing True?

NJKSC27 · 09-26-2007, 07:23 PM

09-23-2007, 12:57 AM	#23
Legion5 Major 175 Rep 1,379 Posts Drives: e92 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (12)	The 350's headlights just make me want to shoot the car, the driver and the dude who made it. It seems like the designers slipped on their mousepads when desinging the front body. "Oh fuck, not again, the Parkinson's is acting up" "Oh wait that looks good, keep it!" "Time to hit that medical reefer once more!" Seriously, they look like sensors arrays from a sci-fi action figure. I half expect them to shoot proton rays at me and turn into micro-rocket launchers to help fight the war on terror. On the S class, they can almost pull it off when looking at the car coming towards you because the body is so nice otherwise, however on this c350 ride the headlights just destroy the flow of the vehicle's lines. BMW's headlamps I would put in a museum, Mercedes' headlamps, I would shove into the shoulder pod weapon of a Predator in the AVP universe. To be honest I think a little carbon fiber splashes and a redesign in the headlamp area would help to break up simultaneously overdone and underdone problems going on and do WONDERS for the car. Doing design myself, I just can't see how Mercedes decided to be into these unfinished headlamps, they are not cool and Mercedes is not cool. The CL class does headlamps WAYY better with bits of this black plastic, however the ENTIRE rest of the result is ruined in the CL's case because no matter how you stare at the CL it looks like a dying animal crossed with some sort of banana. Don't get me wrong I would be thrilled to drive any of these cars, just like I would be thrilled to accept an emmy award with my name on it right after 50 cent had taken a huge fresh dump on the trophy. However that's the point isn't it... If I actually had to pay for things I would keep a bank roll or two and opt for the Grammy in that line, a BMW. It looks blander but at least bimmer designers do not arrive on the job after having hit a crack pipe, or their heads on a large object.
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blue-coupe Second Lieutenant 115 Rep 253 Posts Drives: 1999 Z3 Coupe Join Date: May 2008 Location: Dallas TX iTrader: (0)	I would definately would consider the MB350. I haven't seen one in person, but the pictures look pretty sweet. One thing I think they could change would be to pull the back wheel further toward the rear by about 3-4 inches. Also interested in the A5, just keeping my fingers crossed on the pricing.
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schnell330i Private First Class 4 Rep 110 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: birmingham iTrader: (0)	#1. 0-60: C350 (6.0) 135i (around 4.6) #2. Car comparos in magazines say the C350 doesnt even come close to the 335i, and c&d says the C350 decreased in performace in every area compared to the last gen C350. #3. The m-b 63 amg engines are 6.2 liters and are naturally aspirated, not bi-turbo So it comes down to a lot of style, not much substance, and $40,000+ (C350) Or a lot of style, tons of substace, and around $35,000 (135i)
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