Anyone had their HPFP replaced twice?

[oasis3582]

We should set up this same sort of polling:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248019

[Robert]

Opened a petition to collect signatures of owners or future buyers who are concerned about this problem. See first post for link.

[oasis3582]

Signed...don't think you should have put "pissed off N54 owners" though. And how do you plan to pass along to BMW?

[jeremyc74]

Originally Posted by Robert

Opened a petition to collect signatures of owners or future buyers who are concerned about this problem. See first post for link.

Sounds good.

Originally Posted by oasis3582

Signed...don't think you should have put "pissed off N54 owners" though. And how do you plan to pass along to BMW?

Yeah I agree. I added that, and the last part in the original about the hookers as a joke.

[jeremyc74]

Someone should link it to some of the other forums that are concerned about this as well. Anyone regularly post in the 3 Series section?

[SJ]

It's a great letter,which should be sent to the Editors for publication in all the trade car magazines, here and Europe too. It'd be great to see it published and discussed in Car & Driver, etc ...

They should even be encouraged to do an in-depth article, interview the folks here on 1addicts, etc, and embarrass BMW publicly as much as possible. Might even make it into the Times (here and London) since BMW is a mega-corp.

It's really, totally unacceptable.

[bmwzone]

Originally Posted by jeremyc74

This has been going on for over three years. They HAVE to know what the root cause is at this point, and I'm of the opinion that it's cheaper for them to replace the pumps over and over again instead of fixing it right.

Of course they know. Ford knew about the Explorer rollover issue BEFORE the first production model was built. Unlike Ford, BMW won't have to worry about lawsuits so it's really not a big deal to them. Especially the fact that the N54 engine wins award after award and accolade after accolade.

It's a turbo - turbo's have never been known for reliability anyway and when you hit 100k, don't expect good resale regardless.

Go get yourself a new 5.0 "Coyote" 2011 Mustang. No turbo.

[Citizen Z]

Add me to the list of 2 replaced fuel pumps. Car runs great now, not sure for how long, but we'll we driving it hard no matter what.

If you can get this issue on Autoblog, it'll blow up internet wide pretty quick and will hit mainstream media shortly thereafter.

[bmwzone]

Originally Posted by SJ

It's a great letter,which should be sent to the Editors for publication in all the trade car magazines, here and Europe too. It'd be great to see it published and discussed in Car & Driver, etc ...

They should even be encouraged to do an in-depth article, interview the folks here on 1addicts, etc, and embarrass BMW publicly as much as possible. Might even make it into the Times (here and London) since BMW is a mega-corp.

It's really, totally unacceptable.

Uh, okay, kill your immediate resale too with a negative ad compaign? OMG

How bad do you beat on your cars could make this issue worse as well. Do you warm it up before pegging it? LOL

[jeremyc74]

Originally Posted by bmwzone

Of course they know. Ford knew about the Explorer rollover issue BEFORE the first production model was built. Unlike Ford, BMW won't have to worry about lawsuits so it's really not a big deal to them. Especially the fact that the N54 engine wins award after award and accolade after accolade.

It's a turbo - turbo's have never been known for reliability anyway and when you hit 100k, don't expect good resale regardless.

Go get yourself a new 5.0 "Coyote" 2011 Mustang. No turbo.

Go get a Mustang?

Go kill yourself. Basically what you're saying is that BMW is no better than Ford, and I should dump my car and go buy a Mustang rather than hold BMW to the standards the average customer expects.

[jeremyc74]

Originally Posted by bmwzone

Uh, okay, kill your immediate resale too with a negative ad compaign? OMG

How bad do you beat on your cars could make this issue worse as well. Do you warm it up before pegging it? LOL

So you think not talking about the situation is going to protect your resale value? Are you fucking serious? This issue is being widely discussed on every automotive enthusiasts forum in the country. The resale is already fucked and the logical thing to do is hold BMW accountable for building a completely unreliable engine.

And just for the record there's NOTHING an owner can do to a car that should cause a fuel pump failure. NOTHING.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by bmwzone

Uh, okay, kill your immediate resale too with a negative ad compaign? OMG

How bad do you beat on your cars could make this issue worse as well. Do you warm it up before pegging it? LOL

Sir, I am happy that you have not experienced the pump issue. Second, as I have stated many times I don't abuse my car: no redlining, no autox, track, proper warm up and oil change every 5k miles. Take your condescending attitude elsewhere, and I hope the unwise speculation is not a true reflection of your intelligence. I will keep it civil here.

[themyst]

I just saw the results of the 335i HPFP survey... 68% of the respondents state they never had the HPFP replaced, and of those 32% who did, 81% of them never had a second replacement.

I guess the problem is not as widespread as the vocal minority here, or at least I hope it's not.

FYI - I had my HPFP replaced at 5800 miles.

[jibaholic101]

a poll is in order for the 1ers

[SJ]

Originally Posted by themyst

I just saw the results of the 335i HPFP survey... 68% of the respondents state they never had the HPFP replaced, and of those 32% who did, 81% of them never had a second replacement.

I guess the problem is not as widespread as the vocal minority here, or at least I hope it's not.

FYI - I had my HPFP replaced at 5800 miles.

I would say a 32% failure rate is catatrophic for any modern automobile. And that's only from those within this forum that are reporting. And that's only ... so far. These things may never stop blowing, at 30k, 50k, 100k mi., no one knows. It means if I'm tooling around in the Blue Ridge Mountains in my 135i I've got a 1 in 3 chance of ending up broken down by the side of the road in "deliverance" country .. hmm

This is certainly disappointing and frustrating. There's no doubt of all the cars I've spent too much time test driving this summer, the 135i was by far the most fun.

[themyst]

Originally Posted by SJ

I would say a 32% failure rate is catatrophic for any modern automobile. And that's only from those within this forum that are reporting. And that's only ... so far. These things may never stop blowing, at 30k, 50k, 100k mi., no one knows. It means if I'm tooling around in the Blue Ridge Mountains in my 135i I've got a 1 in 3 chance of ending up broken down by the side of the road in "deliverance" country .. hmm

This is certainly disappointing and frustrating. There's no doubt of all the cars I've spent too much time test driving this summer, the 135i was by far the most fun.

No one's disputing the failure rate is bad, just the fact that a lot of people do not require more than one fuel pump replacement.