Epilogue: 135i

[Ginger_Extract]

Enjoy it. The Gen 6 Camaro will run rings around a 135i, road and track.

[Gray_Panther]

Don't know why the hate for an OG 1er owner.
Congrats on your purchase and move!
I really dig the new camaros especially since the first Transformers movie!

Not sure if pictures have been posted yet but please splash them up.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Gray_Panther

I really dig the new camaros especially since the first Transformers movie!

I liked the Saleen Mustang police car from the first Transformers movie. On the side of the car it says "to punish and enslave" instead of "to protect and serve". Haha

[Gray_Panther]

Originally Posted by Esteban

I liked the Saleen Mustang police car from the first Transformers movie. On the side of the car it says "to punish and enslave" instead of "to protect and serve". Haha

Best two cars out of all the movies!
And that mustang made me want only that mustang!

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Gray_Panther

Best two cars out of all the movies!
And that mustang made me want only that mustang!

When the first Transformers movie came out, I had a 2006 Mustang GT at the time with a Saleen supercharger. Thought that was a pretty cool coincidence, so the Saleen Mustang police car was the best part of the movie to me.

Bumblebee was awesome though. Great way to introduce the new Camaro.

[Gray_Panther]

Originally Posted by Esteban

When the first Transformers movie came out, I had a 2006 Mustang GT at the time with a Saleen supercharger. Thought that was a pretty cool coincidence, so the Saleen Mustang police car was the best part of the movie to me.

Bumblebee was awesome though. Great way to introduce the new Camaro.

Or the part where the Mustang Decepticon cornered Sam W. and was revving the shit out of that engine to scare Sam! That part was so cool!

[infinitekidM2C]

Did either of you watch the original cartoon series?

[Diver]

Since someone asked, here is a pic. I just found the transform button yesterday, LOL. The pu__y magnet is working fine.

[ilikebmxbikes]

congratulations on the camaro. they have come a long way.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by infinitekid2002

Did either of you watch the original cartoon series?

Haha no, can't say that I did. Only watched the first movie and honestly that was because of the cars, then got bored.

Originally Posted by Diver

Since someone asked, here is a pic. I just found the transform button yesterday, LOL. The pu__y magnet is working fine.

Nice looking Camaro. Congrats!

[Gray_Panther]

Originally Posted by infinitekid2002

Did either of you watch the original cartoon series?

Yeah, all four seasons and then I watched transformers armada/energon.

But Beast Wars is what really got me into Transformers!

[doublevanosrc]

Originally Posted by Diver

Since someone asked, here is a pic. I just found the transform button yesterday, LOL. The pu__y magnet is working fine.

Looks good!

I heard of a windshield fogging flaw that the defrost could not fix, have you experienced this?

[Diver]

Originally Posted by doublevanosrc

Looks good!

I heard of a windshield fogging flaw that the defrost could not fix, have you experienced this?

I have noticed minor fogging when the AC is running and it is not very hot out. I have not seen a trend towards complaints about this in the forums. Is this a cold or a hot weather issue?

The big issue has been noise from the differential in early 2016 production caused by contamination of the lubricant. A fluid change usually fixes it.

I am startled to see the trade in value of a 2012 135i has dropped $2k since December 21. As I mentioned before the money issues mainly changed the timing. I wanted that car regardless.

[Havocsteve]

The 135i is half the car of the Camaro size wise. Can't compare a new car to one that is older. If both came off the production line today then you could compare. My father owns a hotrod (1974 Trans-Am with a 494 big block), he likes my lil 1er and always mentions that if he owned it, he would be in trouble. My uncle owns a Camaro SS as well, it's alright, but not the same feeling as the BMW brand. It's bloody quick as well, although me being in Canada, the Camaro was built in the Oshawa GM line back when they were first produced. The Camaro had an 100% fail rate, meaning that there was always some kind of issue that needed to be address off every production car off the line. I myself would go for a Dodge Viper, but they are not close in price range.

[Diver]

Originally Posted by Havocsteve

The 135i is half the car of the Camaro size wise. Can't compare a new car to one that is older. If both came off the production line today then you could compare. My father owns a hotrod (1974 Trans-Am with a 494 big block), he likes my lil 1er and always mentions that if he owned it, he would be in trouble. My uncle owns a Camaro SS as well, it's alright, but not the same feeling as the BMW brand. It's bloody quick as well, although me being in Canada, the Camaro was built in the Oshawa GM line back when they were first produced. The Camaro had an 100% fail rate, meaning that there was always some kind of issue that needed to be address off every production car off the line. I myself would go for a Dodge Viper, but they are not close in price range.

From the start I said the Camaro and 135i only have 2 doors in common. My 2011 135i had multiple issues at delivery and eventually was traded with BMW trade assist. That means I could have pursued a lemon law refund.

My 2017 Camaro has been problem free from day one.

[zapatista]

So a couple of points in this thread I wanted to respond to (and I still own a 128i, NOT a a Camaro SS). These are my personal observations only.

1. The curb weight of a GEN6 (2016+) 1SS coupe is 150 pounds heavier the my 128i (Vert)...135i coupe compared to 1SS is more like ~300 pounds. The Camaro SS weighs more but a 6 cylinder Camaro coupe and a 135i Coupe weigh about the same and have close to same SAE (rated) HP/Torque numbers.

2. Handling-wise I'd say after modifying my base 128i (Michelin PSS (Square), Koni Yellows, HR Sport Springs, M3 subframe bushings, M3 Front Control Arms, Dinan Fixed Front Camber Plates and HR Front 28mm Anti-Sway Bar, etc...) that the 1SS and 2SS I've driven overall still handle better than the 128i. However, Coupe vs. Vert, I know...

3. The interior of the GEN6 2SS is much improved over the GEN5 but it's still not any better than my lowly 128i.

4. Hydraulic steering feel is so much better in the 128i than the electric assisted crap in the SS. The SS rack is very good and in my limited exposure compared to other marques including a 328i loaner (come-on I had to get "rack" and "exposure" in the same sentence).

5. LSD, not yet legal here in CO.

[Diver]

Originally Posted by zapatista

So a couple of points in this thread I wanted to respond to (and I still own a 128i, NOT a a Camaro SS). These are my personal observations only.

1. The curb weight of a GEN6 (2016+) 1SS coupe is 150 pounds heavier the my 128i (Vert)...135i coupe compared to 1SS is more like ~300 pounds. The Camaro SS weighs more but a 6 cylinder Camaro coupe and a 135i Coupe weigh about the same and have close to same SAE (rated) HP/Torque numbers.

2. Handling-wise I'd say after modifying my base 128i (Michelin PSS (Square), Koni Yellows, HR Sport Springs, M3 subframe bushings, M3 Front Control Arms, Dinan Fixed Front Camber Plates and HR Front 28mm Anti-Sway Bar, etc...) that the 1SS and 2SS I've driven overall still handle better than the 128i. However, Coupe vs. Vert, I know...

3. The interior of the GEN6 2SS is much improved over the GEN5 but it's still not any better than my lowly 128i.

4. Hydraulic steering feel is so much better in the 128i than the electric assisted crap in the SS. The SS rack is very good and in my limited exposure compared to other marques including a 328i loaner (come-on I had to get "rack" and "exposure" in the same sentence).

5. LSD, not yet legal here in CO.

Weight difference between a 135i DCT and a 2SS A8 is less than 200 pounds. I don't have a problem with electric steering assist in my car. I never hear a complaint about it in the Camaro forums.

As for LSD, have a nice trip...

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Diver

Weight difference between a 135i DCT and a 2SS A8 is less than 200 pounds. I don't have a problem with electric steering assist in my car. I never hear a complaint about it in the Camaro forums.

As for LSD, have a nice trip...

I'm not interested in the DCT, A8 or A10 for that matter....personal taste. And how can you have a nice trip without LSD....well, I haven't added one to my 128 yet but the mFactory one looks to pass the acid test.

[PA135i]

Originally Posted by Diver

You are one ugly character. Yeah I work at Wendy's. I am the gorilla who makes hamburgers by squeezing ground beef in my armpit and guys like you come in and eat them.

You might be right about the end of the BMW driving experience. No second thoughts here at all. Visibility isn't a problem if you use mirrors. You are just jealous.

I was thinking about a camaro ss a year ago. I like the look and the brute power it has. Never test drove one but read a lot about them. Very fast car in comparison tests with the Mustang. But I think the Mustang is more refined.

Everytime I ponder getting rid of my 135i car I go out and drive it then get out of the car and turn around and look at it's beauty. I'm smitten.

[Diver]

Originally Posted by PA135i

I was thinking about a camaro ss a year ago. I like the look and the brute power it has. Never test drove one but read a lot about them. Very fast car in comparison tests with the Mustang. But I think the Mustang is more refined.

Everytime I ponder getting rid of my 135i car I go out and drive it then get out of the car and turn around and look at it's beauty. I'm smitten.

2018 Mustang will be faster than 2017. Probably not as fast as a Camaro, but the gap will be much less than it is now. Glad you are still in love with your 135i.

[Diver]

Originally Posted by zapatista

I'm not interested in the DCT, A8 or A10 for that matter....personal taste. And how can you have a nice trip without LSD....well, I haven't added one to my 128 yet but the mFactory one looks to pass the acid test.

Acid test, good one.

[Cmoney135i]

Originally Posted by Mr Rooty Von Tooty

The DCT is wonderful. Obviously you are an old fool who is unable to appreciate modern technology. I imagine you are still washing your clothes with a scrubbing board!

DCT is awesome but nothing beats running through the gears on a back road with no one around. I think that is what he is getting at.