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      11-08-2018, 07:53 PM   #221
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If you havenít noticed, most voters (and I do mean the majority who voted) arenít listening to Trump.

Iím holding the dems accountable if they work with him on anyway. Fuck him.
Good plan let hate of an individual stop the progress of an entire country. His policies have benefited the country. We are strong too bad thats not what you want.
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POTUS addressed this very possibility in his press conference. He said that he believed a continued pure resistance approach with Democrats leading the House would result in a NET political benefit for him going into 2020. You probably disagree, but it's definitely something the Democrats are going to have to be careful of. Most people wouldn't be happy if they thought Democrats were purposely limiting the success of the country as a means of limiting President Trump.
If you haven't noticed, most voters (and I do mean the majority who voted) aren't listening to Trump.

I'm holding the dems accountable if they work with him on anyway. Fuck him.
Still hanging onto that majority thing huh? That's just not the objective in our presidential elections. Winning is much more nuanced than only acquiring the most votes overall.
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Good plan let hate of an individual stop the progress of an entire country. His policies have benefited the country. We are strong too bad thats not what you want.
Let me tell you the story of the 44th President of the United States.
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Still hanging onto that majority thing huh? That's just not the objective in our presidential elections. Winning is much more nuanced than only acquiring the most votes overall.
Iím talking the most recent midterm elections where the majority of voters voted for liberal/Democrat canandiates.
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Still hanging onto that majority thing huh? That's just not the objective in our presidential elections. Winning is much more nuanced than only acquiring the most votes overall.
I'm talking the most recent midterm elections where the majority of voters voted for liberal/Democrat canandiates.
I'm not so sure you can universally group liberal and Democrat candidates together when describing who won this week. Some (most?) Democrats that won were more akin to centrist "Blue Dog" Democrats. It's the high profile far Left candidates that didn't live up to expectations.
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Still hanging onto that majority thing huh? That's just not the objective in our presidential elections. Winning is much more nuanced than only acquiring the most votes overall.
I'm talking the most recent midterm elections where the majority of voters voted for liberal/Democrat canandiates.
I'm not so sure you can universally group liberal and Democrat candidates together when describing who won this week. Some (most?) Democrats that won were more akin to centrist "Blue Dog" Democrats. It's the high profile far Left candidates that didn't live up to expectations.
This is factually accurate.
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Still hanging onto that majority thing huh? That's just not the objective in our presidential elections. Winning is much more nuanced than only acquiring the most votes overall.
I'm talking the most recent midterm elections where the majority of voters voted for liberal/Democrat canandiates.
I'm not so sure you can universally group liberal and Democrat candidates together when describing who won this week. Some (most?) Democrats that won were more akin to centrist "Blue Dog" Democrats. It's the high profile far Left candidates that didn't live up to expectations.
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I'm not so sure you can universally group liberal and Democrat candidates together when describing who won this week. Some (most?) Democrats that won were more akin to centrist "Blue Dog" Democrats. It's the high profile far Left candidates that didn't live up to expectations.
Where did you hear this?
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This is factually accurate.
Yeah, mostly likely itís not.
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Iím talking the most recent midterm elections where the majority of voters voted for liberal/Democrat canandiates.
Just because everyone else has lost there way isnt a reason to be proud you did also. The only way we get back to reality is personal responsibility, hard work. There's a much greater chance those with less advantages succeed if they do something to improve their situation instead of sitting on their ass and blame others. We arent owed anything, work for it or gtfo.

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Where did you hear this?
Fox News and right-wing media . I've been hearing this for the past few days. It helps them cope with the loss and sadness knowing that Trump's presidency will be wildly different now.
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I’m talking the most recent midterm elections where the majority of voters voted for liberal/Democrat canandiates.
Democrats, yes....Liberals, no

https://www.vox.com/2018/11/7/180717...elections-2018

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Fox News and right-wing media . I've been hearing this for the past few days. It helps them cope with the loss and sadness knowing that Trump's presidency will be wildly different now.
Only if you ignore the facts.

Progressive House candidates who lost on Tuesday included:

Kara Eastman in Nebraska’s Second Congressional District
Dana Balter in New York’s 24th Congressional District
Katie Porter in California’s 45th Congressional District
Scott Wallace in Pennsylvania’s First Congressional District
Leslie Cockburn in Virginia’s Fifth Congressional District.

Statewide races were more difficult for progressives. In governor races, the candidates the left was most excited about — Stacey Abrams and Andrew Gillum — both trailed behind their Republican counterparts
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Just because everyone else has lost there way isnt a reason to be proud you did also. The only way we get back to reality is personal responsibility, hard work. There's a much greater chance those with less advantages succeed if they do something to improve their situation instead of sitting on their ass and blame others. We arent owed anything, work for it or gtfo.
Blah blah blah. Personal responsibility is nice and all, except when it comes to actually enforcing laws and regulations.

Tell me, what kind of responsibility is DeVos taking by relaxing rules on for profit schools? Or Scott Pruit passing out EPA waivers like candy?
What about Republican (Nunez) willingly obstructing an investigation?

I guess it only matters when they have a D next to their name, right?
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Democrats, yes....Liberals, no

https://www.vox.com/2018/11/7/180717...elections-2018



Only if you ignore the facts.

Progressive House candidates who lost on Tuesday included:

Kara Eastman in Nebraskaís Second Congressional District
Dana Balter in New Yorkís 24th Congressional District
Katie Porter in Californiaís 45th Congressional District
Scott Wallace in Pennsylvaniaís First Congressional District
Leslie Cockburn in Virginiaís Fifth Congressional District.

Statewide races were more difficult for progressives. In governor races, the candidates the left was most excited about ó Stacey Abrams and Andrew Gillum ó both trailed behind their Republican counterparts
And while you named them,

You missed this gem

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Even with these losses, election night wasnít a total disaster for progressives; in the House, the Congressional Progressive Caucus will likely get high-profile new members. Some of the notable wins include:

Ayanna Pressley in Massachusettsís Seventh Congressional District
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in New Yorkís 14th Congressional District
Deb Haaland in New Mexicoís First Congressional District
Rashida Tlaib in Michiganís 13th Congressional District
Ilhan Omar in Minnesotaís Fifth Congressional District
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Blah blah blah. Personal responsibility is nice and all, except when it comes to actually enforcing laws and regulations.

Tell me, what kind of responsibility is DeVos taking by relaxing rules on for profit schools? Or Scott Pruit passing out EPA waivers like candy?
What about Republican (Nunez) willingly obstructing an investigation?

I guess it only matters when they have a D next to their name, right?
No it matters in both directions. Govt should be involved in a very small handful of things and shouldn't feel a need to babysit the idiots. People of intelligence and hard work will succeed the rest get ran over.
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Yeah, mostly likely itís not.

Nope, it's accurate. The liberal democrats who won were winning in heavily democrat districts. The bulk of those democrats who won by flipping a republican seat are from substantially moderate districts and campaigned on a more moderate, less partisan platform.

As such, they will be forced to make a decision over the next two years. They can either side with the more liberal wing of the democrat party and likely lose re-election come 2020, or they can push back against some (but not all) of the more radical policy ideas of the far-left of the party and risk alienating those in the democrat party but likely get re-elected when time comes for aligning themselves with the platforms they ran on.

I would imagine that it will be a combination of both. Some will vote for everything that the far left want, others will vote for nearly none of it. Many will fall somewhere in the middle, where they will probably vote to keep/return the ACA individual mandate, vote to keep DACA as it sits, but will probably not vote for the more radical ideas, such as guaranteed minimum income, open borders, ICE elimination, and socialized medicine.

We shall see - no one really knows. I think we should all agree, however, that Pelosi isn't going to have the easiest of times getting the entire party to get along and agree on everything over the next two years. Of course, this just mimics the same issues the Republicans have had for the last several years as well. Nothing new.
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Democrats, yes....Liberals, no

https://www.vox.com/2018/11/7/180717...elections-2018



Only if you ignore the facts.

Progressive House candidates who lost on Tuesday included:

Kara Eastman in Nebraska’s Second Congressional District
Dana Balter in New York’s 24th Congressional District
Katie Porter in California’s 45th Congressional District
Scott Wallace in Pennsylvania’s First Congressional District
Leslie Cockburn in Virginia’s Fifth Congressional District.

Statewide races were more difficult for progressives. In governor races, the candidates the left was most excited about — Stacey Abrams and Andrew Gillum — both trailed behind their Republican counterparts
And while you named them,

You missed this gem

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Even with these losses, election night wasn’t a total disaster for progressives; in the House, the Congressional Progressive Caucus will likely get high-profile new members. Some of the notable wins include:

Ayanna Pressley in Massachusetts’s Seventh Congressional District
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in New York’s 14th Congressional District
Deb Haaland in New Mexico’s First Congressional District
Rashida Tlaib in Michigan’s 13th Congressional District
Ilhan Omar in Minnesota’s Fifth Congressional District
Read what usshelena725 posted above.

I don't need to repeat.
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there's less and less reason to argue, debate, etc. let trump supporters think it was a perfect victory, let them think he's a shoe-in for 2020. stop giving away free data, free information. they won't believe it anyway.
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Hes definitely not a shoe in it depends who the dems trot out. If they find another dumpster fire like last time will be but otherwise he probably will lose. Problem is the left keeps moving farther left and the pool of non crazy libs is small.
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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...close-to-call/

just fyi where it stands as of today. dems projected to get 38 house seats when the dust settles, gop expecting 2 Senate seats
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Hes definitely not a shoe in it depends who the dems trot out. If they find another dumpster fire like last time will be but otherwise he probably will lose. Problem is the left keeps moving farther left and the pool of non crazy libs is small.
The left can't help themselves with Pelosi already calling for impeachment with no grounds for it and also pushing gun regulation I see them burning out just as quickly as they did between 2008 and 2010.
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