More Details Revealed About US-Bound 135i -- 6 piston brakes + OEM LSD + pricing!!

[marcosowns]

The fact that they are offering Terra now is going to make it a lot more difficult choosing a color scheme for myself. Montego Blue w/ Terra or Alpine White w/ Coral Red? I guess I'll have to see it in person. Great news to hear the brake information has been confirmed. Thanks for information!

[ttdmac]

Amazing pictures. I was hoping to see a better picture of the manifold, primary cats and such.

I'm already thinking of dropping the cats completely or at least replacing them when a hi-flow cat setup is available.

Love the confirmation of the 6 pot brembos. That'll save me from putting AP Racing on there for a while.

[ChrisK]

The brakes alone make the 135i a must.

[BtheMoneW]

Originally Posted by Garrett

Is it me, or does it look like there is ALOT of room under those wheel housings...?

The silver is a 135i, the blue one is a 123d...thats most likely why

[9600baud]

Starting at mid 30s? Easily, very easily, will top $40k when all the dust settles. BMW fails.

I had high hopes for this car, but the honeymoon is over and the ugly head has reared itself.

[bradford]

Originally Posted by 9600baud

Starting at mid 30s? Easily, very easily, will top $40k when all the dust settles. BMW fails.

I had high hopes for this car, but the honeymoon is over and the ugly head has reared itself.

Why would you have thought that you'd get a 300hp BMW for less than the mid $30s, especially considering what a steaming piece of crap the USD is right now?

[9600baud]

Originally Posted by bradford

Why would you have thought that you'd get a 300hp BMW for less than the mid $30s, especially considering what a steaming piece of crap the USD is right now?

Because of the segment it falls into. There's really no comparable segment but for instance a Acura TL starts @ $33 and falls into a "higher" segment vehicle than the 1er.

Same for the Infiniti G37 which starts @ $34, also a higher segment car (3-series competitor).

The fact that it has a 300HP engine is a moot one, they build those engines by the boatload and are shoving them into their whole lineup, its not like they had to go back to the drawing board and build something from scratch.



The fact that people like you (not starting a fight, just trying to make a point) consider $35k a EXPECTED price makes their decision easy. If people refused to pay their imaginary premiums and put pressure on them (through forums like this, viral marketing must be crawling this site) they'd be forced to price the car more reasonably.

[asv]

Originally Posted by 9600baud

Because of the segment it falls into. There's really no comparable segment but for instance a Acura TL starts @ $33 and falls into a "higher" segment vehicle than the 1er.

Same for the Infiniti G37 which starts @ $34, also a higher segment car (3-series competitor).

The fact that it has a 300HP engine is a moot one, they build those engines by the boatload and are shoving them into their whole lineup, its not like they had to go back to the drawing board and build something from scratch.



The fact that people like you (not starting a fight, just trying to make a point) consider $35k a EXPECTED price makes their decision easy. If people refused to pay their imaginary premiums and put pressure on them (through forums like this, viral marketing must be crawling this site) they'd be forced to price the car more reasonably.

Sorry 35k for 300hp BMW is very reasonable. If you think an Infiniti G37 is a bargain, go out and buy one. Personally, my father has owned 2 Q45's, they are not bad cars, but the styling dates very quickly.

[Jeff_DML]

I wouldnt go as far as bargain but yeah seems like a reasonable price. A3 3.2 Quattro s-line starts at 34,915 which I think one paper is its closest competitor. Evo and STi which are more comparable in performance are well into the 30ks. So 35k seems about right to me, of course I wouuld prefer it would be cheaper, would make my decision between it and a 335 a lot easier

[LonghornTX]

Originally Posted by 9600baud

Because of the segment it falls into. There's really no comparable segment but for instance a Acura TL starts @ $33 and falls into a "higher" segment vehicle than the 1er.

Same for the Infiniti G37 which starts @ $34, also a higher segment car (3-series competitor).

The fact that it has a 300HP engine is a moot one, they build those engines by the boatload and are shoving them into their whole lineup, its not like they had to go back to the drawing board and build something from scratch.



The fact that people like you (not starting a fight, just trying to make a point) consider $35k a EXPECTED price makes their decision easy. If people refused to pay their imaginary premiums and put pressure on them (through forums like this, viral marketing must be crawling this site) they'd be forced to price the car more reasonably.

It is pretty unreasonable to expect anything less than mid-30's for the 135i, IMO.

[Imola.ZHP]

Originally Posted by 9600baud

The fact that people like you (not starting a fight, just trying to make a point) consider $35k a EXPECTED price makes their decision easy. If people refused to pay their imaginary premiums and put pressure on them (through forums like this, viral marketing must be crawling this site) they'd be forced to price the car more reasonably.

I wont pay MSRP, no way...

I'll do $1,000 over ED Invoice, thats about it. Considering the car as BMW's new entry, I hope ED still saves $2k, but it might not. But if I do order one, it will be loaded to the roof in options, so I'm sure it will still be 40k OTD, our taxes in TN are insane, but we have no state income tax...

Now I just have to find a way to make an extra $15k between now and when I order...

[ttdmac]

Euro Delivery is the only way to go. Lower cost on car and a great vacation.

I hope the ED price is reasonable, especially since I'm probably going with individual options.

Le Man Blue / Lemon here I come! :thumbup:

Overall I think mid 30s is right on the money. The 135i is in a new growing segment of cars.
Think Audi S3 as the target car with other cars such as AF Brera.
Granted both those cars aren't US spec, but those are the most likely competitive candidates.

[bradford]

Originally Posted by 9600baud

If people refused to pay their imaginary premiums and put pressure on them they'd be forced to price the car more reasonably.

Clearly you have inside information with respect to the *cost* of building this vehicle. Can you please share with us?

Thanks!!!

[adc]

Originally Posted by ttdamc

Le Man Blue / Lemon here I come!

Don't mean to crash your party, but for the past 10 years they disallowed any special orders (Individual or not) on Euro Deliveries. Very firm policy.

Originally Posted by Jeff_DML

So 35k seems about right to me, of course I wouuld prefer it would be cheaper, would make my decision between it and a 335 a lot easier

Let me simplify your decision process - the 335 is a big fat GT, a whopping hammer not a knife. If you are looking for a true driver's car, the 335 will not be it, in stock form.

You might need to modify the 135 too to make it sharper, but at least with the 1 you start $5-6k lower...

[9600baud]

Originally Posted by bradford

Clearly you have inside information with respect to the *cost* of building this vehicle. Can you please share with us?

Thanks!!!

Theres no need for your immature sarcastic tone, but i guess being posting anonymously on a forum gives people who lack balls in real life virtual ones.

I didnt say I know how much it costs, and neither do you to say "OMG $35k thats DEFINITLY reasonable!". Take in account the engine is already done and they had to spend $0 redesigning it and that the 1-series hatch already existed for a few years, all they had to do was design a new "skin" in coupe format.

Hell... even the interior is the same. Ah but whatever obviously you dont understand that and rather make sarcastic comments.

[bradford]

Originally Posted by 9600baud

Theres no need for your immature sarcastic tone, but i guess being posting anonymously on a forum gives people who lack balls in real life virtual ones.

What do you suggest a reasonable price to be?

[ttdmac]

Well as luck would have it, the dealer I work with have assisted with plenty of BMW individual cars on Euro delivery.
However it comes down to Euro delivery or Individual, I'll go with Individual.
Euro is nice, but been there done that and plus I have to live with the car, might as well get it the way I want.

[2ksc]

is it going to have an oil cooler or what?

[bradford]

Originally Posted by 2ksc

is it going to have an oil cooler or what?

Standard on cars with the sport package.

[Garrett]

Originally Posted by 9600baud

Starting at mid 30s? Easily, very easily, will top $40k when all the dust settles. BMW fails.

I had high hopes for this car, but the honeymoon is over and the ugly head has reared itself.

Hunh..?

Why does BMW fail if a fully loaded 135i comes out around $42,000 ..??

:iono:

[Garrett]

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[Garrett]

Originally Posted by 9600baud

Theres no need for your immature sarcastic tone, but i guess being posting anonymously on a forum gives people who lack balls in real life virtual ones.

I didnt say I know how much it costs, and neither do you to say "OMG $35k thats DEFINITLY reasonable!". Take in account the engine is already done and they had to spend $0 redesigning it and that the 1-series hatch already existed for a few years, all they had to do was design a new "skin" in coupe format.

Hell... even the interior is the same. Ah but whatever obviously you dont understand that and rather make sarcastic comments.

LOL... thats is not how BMW are engineered. The 1 coupe is not a reskinned 1 series hatch from Europe. It's completly designed from the ground up.

That is the difference in BMW's that many people do not get. I am not saying the engineers didn't take into consideration previous design concepts or parts, but did you see the chasis and the structural steel photos. This is a completly new vehicle using previous design cue from the 1 series, but taken to another level.

Some people just cannot grasp this level of engineering, many US Manufacturers don't even bother with this degree of engineering and just change a body panels and front fascia, and bingo they have a new model!

You know very little about engineering.... either educate yourself or go buy a Camaro..!








-Garrett