C&D 135i short take road test up on website - 0-60 @ 4.7 / Quarter Mile @ 13.3

0002s · 02-20-2008, 10:22 AM

onehotsS2k

They don't let up on you over on s2ki.com. You be roll'n they be hate'n

Do you still have the S2000. I got rid of my 02 2 years ago. I miss it though.

gap · 02-20-2008, 10:26 AM

Since it is does not have all of the M tuning how about this?

BForbes · 02-20-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 0002s

onehotsS2k

They don't let up on you over on s2ki.com. You be roll'n they be hate'n

Do you still have the S2000. I got rid of my 02 2 years ago. I miss it though.

Haha, tell me about it man. I will be roll'n. :biggrin: Yup I've had the s2k for almost 4yrs. I'll be selling it pretty soon to get the 1 if all goes well. I will miss too.

Such a fun car.

spudw · 02-20-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by chriskurn

Just face it everyone, this car rocks!

...add a few mods, and this car is unstoppable.

Now....how the heck could BMW build an M1 and top 4.7s 0-60 ...and not impede on the M3?

They should make an M1 that beats the M3. 135i is already outperforming 335i. The new M1 should be BMW's halo. If they do an M1, my hope is they avoid a design-to-cost approach. If it's the same $$ as an M3, so be it... Carbon body panels, aggressive aero, mother-of-all motors... bring it on!!!

E82tt6 · 02-20-2008, 10:55 AM

I sold my S2K a couple weeks ago in preparation.

As for my, I'll be going Helix. It's good thing there are so many options in terms of ECU tuning already :-D

Numb3rs · 02-20-2008, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Alpine 135

wow, went from 5.3 down to 4.7. Something doesn't add up here. Is BMW being conservative with their 0-60 times?

BMW has always been more than conservative on it's official rating of their vehicles. From press release, media "invite to drive weekends", re-views and blogs all had to use the 5.3s figure given to them by BMW.

These slew of secondary reviews (not previews) are the real deal. Test are conducted under their own scrutiny and at their leisure.

The 335i was claimed by BMW to be 5.3seconds, yet after it was released it was widely accepted it's real performance was 4.8seconds.The venerable 135i is 198lbs lighter! 4.7seconds was almost expected!

joelk · 02-20-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Alpine 135

wow, went from 5.3 down to 4.7. Something doesn't add up here. Is BMW being conservative with their 0-60 times?

the 5.3 sec time was 0 to 62 mph (~100 kph) not 0 to 60 mph.

so it went from 5.1 sec to 4.7 sec. not that it really matters much on a practical basis.

Russo · 02-20-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by onehots2k

EXTREMELY WELL SAID.

People also forget that this car will dust an EVO X and New STI from any speed. 4.7seconds with a trap speed of 106 is very impressive for a 35k car..

i wouldn't say all that.... having had an Evo 8, there are several people in the community who have reached 12.9 in the quarter with stock 8s and 9s...

larryn · 02-20-2008, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by gap

Since it is does not have all of the M tuning how about this?

How about ///M Poster ?? :wink:

Robinc · 02-20-2008, 12:07 PM

Wow!:eyebulge: Very impressive, I can recall more than several times in the past when anticipating my car and driver in the mail, only to be disappointed by the performance numbers of potential next cars. The G37 comes to mind. I can't wait to start modding and getting her down in the low 12's! :headbang:

adc · 02-20-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JT-KGY

Am I the only one think that 4.7 isnt all the impressive for a car that costs 35k large and smaller than a civic (= sacrificing space without weight advantage)??

0-60 is so severely limited by traction and driver technique, it should be treated more like a suggestion.

Most people will completely fry the rear tires in their attempts to launch. Ask me how I know...

mikeo · 02-20-2008, 12:57 PM

Are you a math teacher, Thud? Damned impressive, I'd say.

adc · 02-20-2008, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowley

That's what I said with my 2004 cobra ... 34-35k ... 110+ trap speeds

To put some of this into perspective .. my 2001 camaro SS trapped (by me at the 1/4 mile track and I'm not a good 1/4 driver) 13.4s at 106 .. after a lid (airbox and K&N) 13.2s at 108 ... That car cost 30k

Your 04 $34-35k Cobra would cost around $38-39k in 2008 money. Your 2001 $30k Camaro SS would cost around $36.5k in today's money. (Roughly speaking of course, using a 3% annual price increase to account for inflation and manufacturer increases).

A $379 mod on the 135i will see it at 109-110 mph trap speed.

Now can we agree it IS a good bang for the buck?

PrematureApex · 02-20-2008, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by larryn

How about ///M Poster ?? :wink:

I wanted that!

PrematureApex · 02-20-2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Russo

i wouldn't say all that.... having had an Evo 8, there are several people in the community who have reached 12.9 in the quarter with stock 8s and 9s...

Can't really compare ET's of 2wd vs. AWD cars. Further, the EVO's and WRX's of the world are still relative shitboxes compared to the 1er (I drive a WRX).

Its nice to pay the same $$$, get the performance AND the comfort/interior/etc.

Crowley · 02-20-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by adc

Your 04 $34-35k Cobra would cost around $38-39k in 2008 money. Your 2001 $30k Camaro SS would cost around $36.5k in today's money. (Roughly speaking of course, using a 3% annual price increase to account for inflation and manufacturer increases).

A $379 mod on the 135i will see it at 109-110 mph trap speed.

Now can we agree it IS a good bang for the buck?

lol .. surely I never said it wasn't a good bang for the buck (not as good as the cobra), but definately better than the SS

...

Crowley

TP 135i · 02-20-2008, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by adc

0-60 is so severely limited by traction and driver technique, it should be treated more like a suggestion.

Most people will completely fry the rear tires in their attempts to launch. Ask me how I know...

OK, Ill bite..........HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT ??? :wink:

clived · 02-20-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Thud

So, after 25.6 seconds, the 135i has gone 2628 feet, and the 335i has gone 2393 feet. About 235 feet behind.

Thanks for putting some science behind my assertion! :thumbup:

Russo · 02-20-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PrematureApex

Can't really compare ET's of 2wd vs. AWD cars. Further, the EVO's and WRX's of the world are still relative shitboxes compared to the 1er (I drive a WRX).

Its nice to pay the same $$$, get the performance AND the comfort/interior/etc.

correct, but going off what a testing company says a car can do, and throwing it at the tuning/racing/public crowd, can be two different things... lots of people got 13.4-13.6 out of a stock Evo, but there are several people up north with better skills, better track, and better gas (lol Cali) who can perform above the set standard...

Berduderunner · 02-20-2008, 08:47 PM

i couldnt believe 4.7 when i saw it earlier today. What is the new M3 rated at?

larryn · 02-20-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Berduderunner

i couldnt believe 4.7 when i saw it earlier today. What is the new M3 rated at?

E92 M3:
0-60 MPH - 5.2 seconds
1/4 Mile - 13.1@105 MPH

E82tt6 · 02-20-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by larryn

E92 M3:
0-60 MPH - 5.2 seconds
1/4 Mile - 13.1@105 MPH

Those numbers are from the E46, not E92.

E92 (C&D numbers)= 4.3 to 60, and 12.8@113, 9.8 sec 0-100, 24.3 sec 0-150

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