Well Im Officially a Lemon

KingOfJericho · 09-14-2009, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Lester

Can you get a 3 Series diesel in North America?

Yup! for a few months now. I was next to an X5 diesel yesterday as well.

ad78 · 09-14-2009, 08:38 AM

you like driving topless but you are worrying the skin damage of the vert. this is your solution:

the new Z4!

KingOfJericho · 09-14-2009, 08:38 AM

From what I've read so far, your lawyer is the only one who has declared the car a lemon. What you need is for BMW to declare it because, according to what I've read, the car must be in for the same issue 3 times and I'm not sure the light is enough to qualify. I think you'd need the HPFP to fail 3 times to really qualify as there is really no solution and it's a pretty major problem.

BlackjackMulligan · 09-14-2009, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

From what I've read so far, your lawyer is the only one who has declared the car a lemon. What you need is for BMW to declare it because, according to what I've read, the car must be in for the same issue 3 times. It looks like you have a couple that are 2 times but I think you'd need the HPFP to fail 3 times to really qualify as there is really no solution to that issue.

I believe its 3 times for the same issue OR 30 days or more off the road. Not sure what time frame the 30 days needs to occur in, maybe a calendar year? But I'm guessing.

AlBel1214 · 09-14-2009, 08:46 AM

C 6 3 A M G...

Dude roll around with that on campus and let people think whatever they want!

KingOfJericho · 09-14-2009, 08:48 AM

Let's be honest here... they're already saying those same things about your 135 as they would about the M3. Both cars are ridiculous for a college campus.

KingOfJericho · 09-14-2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackjackMulligan

I believe its 3 times for the same issue OR 30 days or more off the road. Not sure what time frame the 30 days needs to occur in, maybe a calendar year? But I'm guessing.

True. I forgot about that aspect.

oneintheory · 09-14-2009, 08:49 AM

welcome to the club.

jkp1187 · 09-14-2009, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackjackMulligan

I believe its 3 times for the same issue OR 30 days or more off the road. Not sure what time frame the 30 days needs to occur in, maybe a calendar year? But I'm guessing.

Lemon laws vary from state to state. Consult an licensed attorney for advice pertaining to the laws in your state.

Qunadry · 09-14-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BrokenVert

So I talked with a lawyer today and apparently my vert qualifies a lemon.

Let me list my non-accident related failures:
Sept 08 - Car dragged a pad post breakin. Car offroad 2 days.
Nov - Dashboard fell apart. Car offroad a week.
April - Complete mechanical failure of the top. All bushings, cables, and motors replaced. Car offroad 3 weeks.
June - Suspected HPFP failure after engine cranked and failed to start. Code was thrown but all tests came back negative on HPFP. Code cleared (no replacement) and car offroad 3 days.
July - Third tailight falls out. Car offroad 2 days waiting on part.
Sept 09 - Dashboard falls apart a second time. Car sent in 4 days ago...still in shop.

Im just not sure what to do. This damned color has me under its spell. I plan on getting some type of monetary compensation from BMW but im not sure if I will replace the car, or just keep it and hope they give it to me for free.

Guess im still living up to my name...ugh

I believe that you are among the first, but not the last, to lemon-law their 135i. From what I see on the forums, many are either at or near the point where their car can be lemon-lawed. From this month's Roundel it appears BMW's response to the problem will be a twin-scroll single turbo engine and to h*** with those who have the N54. Maybe when enough cars are lemon-lawed BMW will fix the problem instead of bandaiding it.

BrokenVert · 09-14-2009, 11:54 AM

Nobody seems to notice this. But I have had issues with my car that nobody else has had. AKA my top completly failing. What I mean by the dashboard thing is that back in November the bolts holding my instrument cluster to the car fell off, cause a horendous rattle. Its in now for a completly different rattle that is inside of the dashboard behind the glovebox and it has yet to be diagnosed.

The only engine troubles im having are HPFP related, but it hasnt failed. If this was 2005 I would jump on that M3 bandwagon however, but I have driven an E92 M3 and the car is simply too large for my liking.

And from what I understand its 30 days in shop with documented warrenty repairs within the first 18 months of ownership in NY.

My father talked to the lawyer as I am still at school right now.

BrokenVert · 09-14-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ad78

you like driving topless but you are worrying the skin damage of the vert. this is your solution:

the new Z4!

I am very confused by this comment. Driving a Zed with top down is no different than driving my 135i topless. We all bake under the same sun. Im worried about skin damage because I am a true convertible guy. If I have a top it will be down, unless its raining. I didnt even let snow deter me last February...but I did get massively sunburned on several occasions.

Topless at 45 with snow falling around is a magical experience.

amybang · 09-14-2009, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BrokenVert

I am very confused by this comment. Driving a Zed with top down is no different than driving my 135i topless. We all bake under the same sun. Im worried about skin damage because I am a true convertible guy. If I have a top it will be down, unless its raining. I didnt even let snow deter me last February...but I did get massively sunburned on several occasions.

Topless at 45 with snow falling around is a magical experience.

I'll have to give that a try this winter!

(the Z4 comment didn't make any sense to me either, but maybe he didn't realize you meant your skin damage - I always keep sunblock in the door pocket)

amy!

Dave · 09-14-2009, 12:48 PM

335 d
!

or a coupe

good luck bud

AchtungF80 · 09-14-2009, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by izzodesh

335d!

or coupe

gl bud

He already said he doesnt want anything to do with a 3-series...and double-post. Shame on you!

Dave · 09-14-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by achtungE30

He already said he doesnt want anything to do with a 3-series...and double-post. Shame on you!

dbl post?
no idea what u are talking about

328 and 335i is what i interpreted...

then a z4m should do him nicely 8 )

AchtungF80 · 09-14-2009, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by izzodesh

dbl post?
no idea what u are talking about

328 and 335i is what i interpreted...

then a z4m should do him nicely 8 )

haha, nice Ninja moves!

BrokenVert · 09-14-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by izzodesh

dbl post?
no idea what u are talking about

328 and 335i is what i interpreted...

then a z4m should do him nicely 8 )

The thought had crossed my mind. But where would I fit the 3 girls ill need to bring with me inorder to get into frat parties?

Dave · 09-14-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by achtungE30

haha, nice Ninja moves!

1lvr · 09-14-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by oasis3582

If you had a lemon 1er, and you know a lot of the issues you had are fleet-wide, why would you get another? I love my 135, but I can't think of something more convincing to go far, far away.

Are you sure you love it? If this happened to me I would get another 1er. Something about this car just clicks with me and others appairently.

BrokenVert · 09-14-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 1lvr

Are you sure you love it? If this happened to me I would get another 1er. Something about this car just clicks with me and others appairently.

Thats really true. I do love my 1er and as ive already said if I do get it replaced it would be with a new 135i. If im talking 2010 here for a replacement maybe I should consider a SuperSport. See if I can swing a deal on it.

Add1ct · 09-14-2009, 02:13 PM

at least go test drive the 335d, you will be amazed

09-14-2009, 08:38 AM	#24
ad78 Yr1OfD1 107 Rep 900 Posts Drives: 2015 F34 M Sport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: CT iTrader: (1)	you like driving topless but you are worrying the skin damage of the vert. this is your solution: the new Z4!
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09-14-2009, 08:38 AM	#25
KingOfJericho Major General 2452 Rep 7,341 Posts Drives: Yes Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CT iTrader: (1) Garage List 2010 135i Coupe [5.26]	From what I've read so far, your lawyer is the only one who has declared the car a lemon. What you need is for BMW to declare it because, according to what I've read, the car must be in for the same issue 3 times and I'm not sure the light is enough to qualify. I think you'd need the HPFP to fail 3 times to really qualify as there is really no solution and it's a pretty major problem. __________________ The views and opinions expressed in this post are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Bimmerpost. 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee High Altitude Hemi \| 2010 S4 Sold \| 2010 BMW 135i Retired \| 2006 Lotus Exige Sold
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09-14-2009, 08:46 AM	#27
AlBel1214 Major 52 Rep 1,118 Posts Drives: past 135i, now c6, future M3?? Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Philly iTrader: (0)	C 6 3 A M G... Dude roll around with that on campus and let people think whatever they want! __________________ -----LS3 C6----- *z51 suspension,* *NPP dual mode exhaust(wild2mild),20% tint,* zr1 replica wheels, gloss black fender stripes** R.I.P SGM 135i w/ some mods
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09-14-2009, 08:48 AM	#28
KingOfJericho Major General 2452 Rep 7,341 Posts Drives: Yes Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CT iTrader: (1) Garage List 2010 135i Coupe [5.26]	Let's be honest here... they're already saying those same things about your 135 as they would about the M3. Both cars are ridiculous for a college campus. __________________ The views and opinions expressed in this post are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Bimmerpost. 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee High Altitude Hemi \| 2010 S4 Sold \| 2010 BMW 135i Retired \| 2006 Lotus Exige Sold
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09-14-2009, 08:49 AM	#30
oneintheory no longer a BMW owner 152 Rep 1,463 Posts Drives: 2011 Ford Edge Sport Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Suffolk/Chesapeake, VA iTrader: (0)	welcome to the club.
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09-14-2009, 11:54 AM	#33
BrokenVert Resident Kerbalnaut 477 Rep 10,703 Posts Drives: Topless Brute/Hybrid Boogaloo Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fahrvergnügen/NY iTrader: (0)	Nobody seems to notice this. But I have had issues with my car that nobody else has had. AKA my top completly failing. What I mean by the dashboard thing is that back in November the bolts holding my instrument cluster to the car fell off, cause a horendous rattle. Its in now for a completly different rattle that is inside of the dashboard behind the glovebox and it has yet to be diagnosed. The only engine troubles im having are HPFP related, but it hasnt failed. If this was 2005 I would jump on that M3 bandwagon however, but I have driven an E92 M3 and the car is simply too large for my liking. And from what I understand its 30 days in shop with documented warrenty repairs within the first 18 months of ownership in NY. My father talked to the lawyer as I am still at school right now. __________________
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09-14-2009, 12:48 PM	#36
Dave formerly izzo/comeback 287 Rep 3,382 Posts Drives: 2016 RC 350 F Sport Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NJ iTrader: (3) Garage List 2008 135i [6.80]	335 d ! or a coupe good luck bud __________________ BMW CCA # 418268
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09-14-2009, 02:13 PM	#44
Add1ct Lieutenant Colonel 59 Rep 1,859 Posts Drives: 135i, 335i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Palos Verdes Estates (SoCal) iTrader: (3)	at least go test drive the 335d, you will be amazed __________________ E82 N54 6MT 6FL 668 KASW turned in E92 Crimson/Cream N54 6MT, ZSP, ZPP, ZCW, Nav, Sat radio, HD Radio, Logic7, PDC, Active Steering, Active Cruise, 6FL, CA
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