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      03-04-2011, 09:10 AM   #45
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^^^ To which there is NONE with the stock wheels and 255/35-18 tires.
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Pricing? At or below the cost of PS2's. Now that's some value.

All in all, a very impressive introduction. I'm very excited to get these on the track so I can get a first hand look at what Michelin is very excited about.

Gill, how come on TireRack they're more expensive than the PS2s?

225/40/18 + 255/35/18:

PS2 = $986 + shipping
PSS = $1034?

-Sorry if this was mentioned in thread already, too lazy to look through.
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I'm looking at getting Breyton GTS-R wheels with these tires. Is clearance going to be an issue?
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Wow, that is lazy!

Ever hear of the PS3? Hint, hint.
No I haven't.

And the PSS are indeed more expensive than the PS2s when it was said it would be less.
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235/40/18 4-15
Same as this fits my R32
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Not sure since i haven't bothered to look at all sizes, but so long as a majority of the sizes are a lesser price, general description of the product can say its cheaper.

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No I haven't.

And the PSS are indeed more expensive than the PS2s when it was said it would be less.
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      03-09-2011, 05:15 PM   #51
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Gill, if I want these tires, do I just order off tirerack? If so, do they ship out as soon as you get them? Thanks
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might want to consider going 265's in the rear per the Apex guys i talked to the 275 rear could cause unwanted under steer w/ the large rear and not equally large fronts. Although i don't know the rest of ur suspension set-up so maybe you are ok.

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Great find! Now I am set with the super sports for my ARC-8 wheels when they come in, although, I won't go as agressive as you in the front:

235 40 R 18 (front)
275 35 R 18 (rear)
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      03-09-2011, 06:02 PM   #53
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good point!

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might want to consider going 265's in the rear per the Apex guys i talked to the 275 rear could cause unwanted under steer w/ the large rear and not equally large fronts. Although i don't know the rest of ur suspension set-up so maybe you are ok.

I've been reading both sides on this. People regretting getting 265s instead of 275s. Others seem to suggest like you to avoid an extreme staggered configuration.

For the supersport, I will go conservative with the 265s.
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There's at least 3 local 1ers with 275s on arc8s. They seem to have no problems
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There's at least 3 local 1ers with 275s on arc8s. They seem to have no problems

What size do they have up front though. I think that is the key point. if you have a more extereme suspension w/ camber plates etc. you can put a bigger front which might negate the under steer problems. I guess another point is that you need to be driving pretty hard on public streets to induce understeer, which is not something i like to do since there is not a whole lot you can do as a driver to fix it...sliding off the road into a ditch does not sound like fun.
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Actually, Eddy noted in a PM to me that he prefers 265 on the rear.

I plan on running 235/40 with 265/35.

I will be doing the same.
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I plan on running 235/40 with 265/35.
Well I guess I'll have to give in and go with 235/40 up front too. I wanted 245/35, but I guess a 235/40 PSS is better than a 245/35 PS2.

I'm also not really clear about how much camber I'd need for the 245/35. I have -1.5 now, and my installer says I should not add more.

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      03-10-2011, 12:59 PM   #58
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245/40 might work on OEM suspension, but I think Eddy told me they were too big. In fact, he said the 255/35 was easier to fit although it required significant negative camber change. It would be close, but a little tall for the 265/35.
Correct. The height is more of an issue then width. It's easier to fit a wide tire with a shorter OD then a tall tire that is a little narrower. This doesn't apply to every situation, but specifically the above mentioned situation.

275's fit in the rear on our 9.5", but 265's are shorter, and most people won't be running 255's up front. You'll see better results with a narrower rear if you can't go extra wide up front.
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      03-17-2011, 01:22 AM   #59
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The arc-8 guys need to get with Gill at tirerack and try and do a group discount. These seem to be a great new tire and release date is perfect timing with the expected ship date of the apex wheel group buy.
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The arc-8 guys need to get with Gill at tirerack and try and do a group discount. These seem to be a great new tire and release date is perfect timing with the expected ship date of the apex wheel group buy.
Now there's a thought !

I would be very interested in both Gill's recommendation for a set on arc-8's with the performance suspension AND if we could work some kind of group buy for say tires + TPMS (+ mounting?)
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damn, if these were available right now, i'd put them on instead of the V12's i'm putting on on monday.
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The Michelin PS3's are out over here in Germany. I have been pricing tires this week and for 225's and 255's on my 18" M wheels... the PS3 are only 50 euros more for the set, over Conti SportContact3's.

The ContiSportContact3's are not sold in the USA. What I mean is there is a Conti tire sold in the USA with the same name but the Contact3's over here look nothing like the pics on TireRack's website. ?

So... my question is... which tire would you guys go with? Contact3's or PS3's?

My tire dealer over here says both tires are fairly equeal - but the PS3's will last long but don't handle as well as the Conti's. Also the Conti's have better wet performace - so he says. ?

On a side note... this tire dealer says the max tire I can install on the factory alloys is 245's on the rear (8.5 inch) wheels. So... can I really get away with 255's? What IF I lower my car later on?

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you'll be perfectly fine with 255 on the rear even after lowering.
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Any other comments on the 225/40/18 and 255/35/18 Michelin's vs Conti's???
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Michelin PS3 have the edge in performance and wear, and just as good in the wet. 255/35 on back should be fine with 225/40 on front.

Lowering creates its own problems. Stick to BMW Performance or something like that.

Yea... that is what I was thinking about going with(BMW Performance suspension kit). I think I am going to go with the PS3's in 225/255's.

Btw... the guy at the German tire store asked me what kind of 5er I have and I told him I have a 1er!!! lol He said those are some beefy tires to put on a one.
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