Disturbing 335i info (from inside source)

0700700 · 12-13-2005, 09:56 AM

well i thought i would share this with you ...

I just went down to my not so local (150km off) dealer in Plovdiv (thats in bulgaria) , to confirm the order of my 535d and since one of the sales people is a close family relative i thought that would be the chance to enquire about some of the future models in the bmw line-up...

Anyways having looked at production schedule for all bmw models until february 2007 i can confirm the following...

the 335i is listed as a 2997cm3 engine (so no suprise there) but whats really distrubing to me is that the documents shows that its is with a kompressor, bascially the german for supercharged...

Thus any theory about turbo-charging the engine is possibly not being looked at at bmw at the moment. Why on earth would they do that i do not know especially considering that supercharging is more expensive from a price side than turbo-charging.

The 335i model is expected to deput on the 14th of March, but the first model to carry this engine will be the Z4 Coupe.

The Z4 Coupe will be available initially in a 2.5 and 3.5 versions , and first units will be available in week 28 (June)

The 335i will be available to order from April and first cars will ship in late september...

Also the 5series will receive no facelift until at least mid 2007 as there is no mention of a production halt of the existing model , in the internal document.

Well enjoy

0700700 · 12-13-2005, 09:57 AM

also they list the 335i part as 320bhp/335nm

i see some of this has been posted before

but i hope youll still find something interesting here

Bimmerista · 12-13-2005, 10:02 AM

I don't think that the Kompressor designation is correct. It will be likely a twin sequential turbo as the diesels. BMW has not developed a supercharger-ever.

Likely a marketing brochure ooops up.

But the rest of your numbers look like the real deal.

colonelburke · 12-13-2005, 10:02 AM

shimshimhada · 12-13-2005, 10:03 AM

SpeedFreak! What say you to yet another different prediction? Of course, this is another European one.

E90 · 12-13-2005, 10:23 AM

i don`t think it is a kompressor since they launched a new engine concept yesterday which is using turbo systems.Also kompressor is using more fuel.

fredtoo · 12-13-2005, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by E90

i don`t think it is a kompressor since they launched a new engine concept yesterday which is using turbo systems.Also kompressor is using more fuel.

I think we may have a translation issue here, as both belt driven Superchargers and exhaust driven Turbochargers are "Compressors".

SpeedFreak! · 12-13-2005, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by shimshimhada

SpeedFreak! What say you to yet another different prediction? Of course, this is another European one.

All the dates correspond to the dates I have stated for some time.

The newly face-lifted Z4 (3.0i w/ 215 and 3.0si w/ 255hp) and M roadster (just revised today: 330hp) will start production in Feb'06

The Z4 coupe and M coupe will start production in May or June... with the same numbers.

3 series coupe (E46 should end production in May, if not sooner) will make it's FIRST official debut in Geneva in March... and then start production by June as a 328Ci (235hp) and a 335Ci (310hpNA)

Who knows what the Euro market is going to get... but I am willing to bet that the claims that we are going to see the coupe before the Geneva car show in March are bogus. It doesn't make any sense.

There is absolutely NO WAY that BMW is bringing a supercharged car. Many of the current supercharger systems do look and function a lot like a turbo system. But the system that BMW has developed is a system similar to the sequential turbo used on their diesel motor.

dxk · 12-13-2005, 12:14 PM

In German Compressor means either Turbo or Supercharger.

Garrett · 12-13-2005, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E90

i don`t think it is a kompressor since they launched a new engine concept yesterday which is using turbo systems.Also kompressor is using more fuel.

Could you PLEASE no drop information like that without including a link... I'm going searching after this. Ugg

-Garrett

Tine · 12-13-2005, 01:47 PM

Oh, c'mon.

335 will have (in European version for sure) 3.0L I6 VTT* engine with 330HP (by Euro standard).

E92 coupe is ready for official introduction. Embargo on publishing ends in the next day. Yes, the car will be shown in Geneva first, but the PR with relevant info and pics will be out in the next days (within a week).

*VTT = variable twin turbo

colonelburke · 12-13-2005, 02:25 PM

Why don't any of these articles say what the US will get? This is driving me mad, despite the fact I am waiting anyway.

speed_330i · 12-13-2005, 02:26 PM

so is it a 335i or 335ci?... or both?

colonelburke · 12-13-2005, 02:31 PM

From what I gather it is both. First in coupe form, and then in sedan form. Speed says June (?) and Sept respectively.

SpeedFreak! · 12-13-2005, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colonelburke

From what I gather it is both. First in coupe form, and then in sedan form. Speed says June (?) and Sept respectively.

True.

warot · 12-13-2005, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0700700

also they list the 335i part as 320bhp/335nm

i see some of this has been posted before

but i hope youll still find something interesting here

335nm? That can't be right...

hector · 12-13-2005, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tine

Oh, c'mon.

335 will have (in European version for sure) 3.0L I6 VTT* engine with 330HP (by Euro standard).

E92 coupe is ready for official introduction. Embargo on publishing ends in the next day. Yes, the car will be shown in Geneva first, but the PR with relevant info and pics will be out in the next days (within a week).

*VTT = variable twin turbo

tine, what exactly does variable refer to with respect to the turbo?, is that a variable nozzle or vanes set up? i assume it's not referring to variable valve timing?

speed_330i · 12-13-2005, 03:58 PM

I really hope this 335i will come to north america. i'll sign up for one for sure!!!

SpeedFreak! · 12-13-2005, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hector

tine, what exactly does variable refer to with respect to the turbo?, is that a variable nozzle or vanes set up? i assume it's not referring to variable valve timing?

This would have to do with the twin turbo's sequential set up... like the diesel, using a smaller and a larger turbo to hit at different points in the power band.

Tine · 12-13-2005, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hector

tine, what exactly does variable refer to with respect to the turbo?, is that a variable nozzle or vanes set up? i assume it's not referring to variable valve timing?

The engine is based on the 3.0-litre NG6 aluminium-magnesium composite engine, coupled with an advanced twin-turbo charger. The turbocharger employs a small turbine for low rpm to enable immediate response. A larger turbine provides for full boost. An advanced control system ensures the transition from small to large turbine is seamless. The two stage turbo charger also means greater efficiency and performance without penalty.

wyrm11 · 12-13-2005, 04:40 PM

good lord, I know this is supposed to be "fun" but it's kinda getting crazy. I wish BMW would just release something official so that we can know for sure what's going on.

soon I'm going to just start making things up from an "inside source"

noflash · 12-13-2005, 04:41 PM

SPEEDFREAK AND TINE AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Tine still had to show him up a little though)

12-13-2005, 09:56 AM	#1
0700700 Major 81 Rep 1,055 Posts Drives: 745li / cls 55 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: BG iTrader: (0)	Disturbing 335i info (from inside source) well i thought i would share this with you ... I just went down to my not so local (150km off) dealer in Plovdiv (thats in bulgaria) , to confirm the order of my 535d and since one of the sales people is a close family relative i thought that would be the chance to enquire about some of the future models in the bmw line-up... Anyways having looked at production schedule for all bmw models until february 2007 i can confirm the following... the 335i is listed as a 2997cm3 engine (so no suprise there) but whats really distrubing to me is that the documents shows that its is with a kompressor, bascially the german for supercharged... Thus any theory about turbo-charging the engine is possibly not being looked at at bmw at the moment. Why on earth would they do that i do not know especially considering that supercharging is more expensive from a price side than turbo-charging. The 335i model is expected to deput on the 14th of March, but the first model to carry this engine will be the Z4 Coupe. The Z4 Coupe will be available initially in a 2.5 and 3.5 versions , and first units will be available in week 28 (June) The 335i will be available to order from April and first cars will ship in late september... Also the 5series will receive no facelift until at least mid 2007 as there is no mention of a production halt of the existing model , in the internal document. Well enjoy
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0700700 Major 81 Rep 1,055 Posts Drives: 745li / cls 55 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: BG iTrader: (0)	also they list the 335i part as 320bhp/335nm i see some of this has been posted before but i hope youll still find something interesting here
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Bimmerista Major General 82 Rep 5,732 Posts Drives: superstock Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada iTrader: (0)	I don't think that the Kompressor designation is correct. It will be likely a twin sequential turbo as the diesels. BMW has not developed a supercharger-ever. Likely a marketing brochure ooops up. But the rest of your numbers look like the real deal.
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dxk Private First Class 9 Rep 166 Posts Drives: 2017 BMW 540i Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boston iTrader: (0)	In German Compressor means either Turbo or Supercharger. __________________ e90 330i e60 535i f10 550i f10 550i lci g30 540i
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Tine Private First Class 12 Rep 134 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2005 iTrader: (0)	Oh, c'mon. 335 will have (in European version for sure) 3.0L I6 VTT* engine with 330HP (by Euro standard). E92 coupe is ready for official introduction. Embargo on publishing ends in the next day. Yes, the car will be shown in Geneva first, but the PR with relevant info and pics will be out in the next days (within a week). *VTT = variable twin turbo
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colonelburke Private 0 Rep 90 Posts Drives: e60 550i Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Georgia iTrader: (0)	Why don't any of these articles say what the US will get? This is driving me mad, despite the fact I am waiting anyway.
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speed_330i Private 0 Rep 52 Posts Drives: 06 330i Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	so is it a 335i or 335ci?... or both?
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colonelburke Private 0 Rep 90 Posts Drives: e60 550i Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Georgia iTrader: (0)	From what I gather it is both. First in coupe form, and then in sedan form. Speed says June (?) and Sept respectively.
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speed_330i Private 0 Rep 52 Posts Drives: 06 330i Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	I really hope this 335i will come to north america. i'll sign up for one for sure!!!
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wyrm11 ///Man of Steel 30 Rep 1,243 Posts Drives: Monaco 335 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	good lord, I know this is supposed to be "fun" but it's kinda getting crazy. I wish BMW would just release something official so that we can know for sure what's going on. soon I'm going to just start making things up from an "inside source"
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noflash Captain Caveman 148 Rep 1,715 Posts Drives: '06 325eyeyiyi Join Date: May 2005 Location: midwest iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00]	SPEEDFREAK AND TINE AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Tine still had to show him up a little though)
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