Wow, JBS2HHR tune + RR DP's making some serious power.

Yearofthe1 · 02-26-2008, 12:44 PM

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:eyebulge:What a pull. That from just an OTS tune and race gas with just a DP? Not full TBE?! No fueling mods required?!

Holy cow.

I've heard rumors that the stock fuel injectors are technically capable of supporting up to 3000 hp! I'll try to track the source of that. I don't think fuel delivery will ever be a limiting factor in this engine; isn't direct injection great!

Yearofthe1 · 02-26-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by atr_hugo

Hmmm - I believe there are two sets of cats on this engine, light-offs and then primaries - the light-off cats are snugged up under the turbines. You may be able to remove them and pass emissions [spoken with the same voice as Abe Vigoda in the Godfather saying, "You may be able to tape the gun . . ." ; -].

Not in my state! Virginia emmisions stations now solely use the car's own OBD terminal to evaluate exhaust emmisions. If a problem is showing up according to the car's computer, they may then run the traditional test of using the tail-pipe sensor, but they will ussually fail your car right then and there. Therefore, no functioning O2 sensor = no pass emmisions! I beleive many other states use this method as well. I know California does.

E82tt6 · 02-26-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by asv

Thanks for the informative post! Forgive my complete ignorance, but I assume that since the downpipe bypasses cats, it would probably fail emissions inspection?

The Borla doesn't remove the second cats, so it actually probably would pass a sniff test.

Justin(OKC) · 02-26-2008, 06:20 PM

hmm 140mph video on the www, followed by a shot of his license plate. Explain that to a judge

E82tt6 · 02-26-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin(OKC)

hmm 140mph video on the www, followed by a shot of his license plate. Explain that to a judge

No proof they were the same car.

reo5001 · 02-26-2008, 07:10 PM

The post got taken off youtube by the user ^^ Suspicious??

larryn · 02-26-2008, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by reo5001

The post got taken off youtube by the user ^^ Suspicious??

Hmm. Mention the license plate, and POOF! :wink:

reo5001 · 02-26-2008, 07:20 PM

It was sick video! I was going to show it to a friend and poof its gone.

larryn · 02-26-2008, 07:24 PM

Try this one instead. It's a 335i with no mods other than a JB2H going against a stock 2008 Porsche C4S..

I do NOT condone street racing though. It's insane and dangerous.

reo5001 · 02-26-2008, 08:15 PM

That will do nicely

Rearro · 02-27-2008, 10:32 AM

I think the guy in the porche Didn't know how to drive, those things come with 400hp, or the 335 had more mod's:iono:

adc · 02-27-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rearro

I think the guy in the porche Didn't know how to drive, those things come with 400hp, or the 335 had more mod's:iono:

355 at the crank, to be exact (and 295ft-lbs). And some more AWD losses which don't do it any favors on the highway.

A 335 JB2H will probably net 380BHP and 420ft-lbs, respectively.

The weight difference is around 200 lbs give or take (less if the C4S is tiptronic).

There's nothing surprising really in these videos. For a daily driver and given what parameters JB2 alters, I would only consider a JB2 (no H). I currently have a JB1 in the car.

I'll probably upgrade to JB2 soon. I might try an H pill only if I had an upgraded intercooler and oil cooler.

john970 · 02-27-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by asv

Thanks for the informative post! Forgive my complete ignorance, but I assume that since the downpipe bypasses cats, it would probably fail emissions inspection?

Catalytic converters are required by law, I can't imagine a car without them passing emissions.

I also can't imagine a cop looking under your car when he pulls you over, either.

adc · 02-27-2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by john970

Catalytic converters are required by law, I can't imagine a car without them passing emissions.

Now imagine the Tesla Roadster.

curtdragon · 02-27-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rearro

Please forgive what I'm about to ask As I don't have a clue!!

What the hell was he talking bout?? Down pipes & something about pills??

would someone please be kind enough to relay what he said in
"big dummy terms"

I think that was awesome tho!!

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turbo.htm

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Originally Posted by john970

Catalytic converters are required by law, I can't imagine a car without them passing emissions.

I also can't imagine a cop looking under your car when he pulls you over, either.

i heard they do that a lot in cali

Numb3rs · 02-27-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by atr_hugo

Hmmm - I believe there are two sets of cats on this engine, light-offs and then primaries - the light-off cats are snugged up under the turbines. You may be able to remove them and pass emissions [spoken with the same voice as Abe Vigoda in the Godfather saying, "You may be able to tape the gun . . ." ; -].

Actually, I think I remember reading somewhere (tried to look for it again) that the down pipe cats are indeed the primary catalytic converters. I'm curious to technically find out more.

Though, the emissions part is the least of your worries. It is a federal offense to tamper with a stock exhaust, or use an aftermarket one that is not CARB certified!

An acquaintance of mine is a police officer, he said it is the easiest way to punish a "ricer", is ask them if their exhaust is stock. After writing a ticket, they have some expensive hoops to jump threw even if the judge just orders the original exhaust be put back on!

So just be mindful!

adc · 02-27-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Numb3rs

It is a federal offense to tamper with a stock exhaust, or use an aftermarket one that is not CARB certified!

Federal? Hardly. And I think it's quite legal in MD to put on an exhaust that is not CARB certified. :biggrin:

E82tt6 · 02-27-2008, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Numb3rs

Actually, I think I remember reading somewhere (tried to look for it again) that the down pipe cats are indeed the primary catalytic converters. I'm curious to technically find out more.

Though, the emissions part is the least of your worries. It is a federal offense to tamper with a stock exhaust, or use an aftermarket one that is not CARB certified!

An acquaintance of mine is a police officer, he said it is the easiest way to punish a "ricer", is ask them if their exhaust is stock. After writing a ticket, they have some expensive hoops to jump threw even if the judge just orders the original exhaust be put back on!

So just be mindful!

Keep in mind that those laws are federal. $10,000 for each altered/removed cat.

Only a federal LEO/DA can write you up for that though, not something a local cop can do.

reo5001 · 02-27-2008, 09:41 PM

The original video was reposted, but this time the license plate was blocked out!....on another note, where the hell do you buy 100 octane gas....

TunedM2C · 02-27-2008, 09:53 PM

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The original video was reposted, but this time the license plate was blocked out!....on another note, where the hell do you buy 100 octane gas....

http://www.sunocoinc.com/Site/Consum...nnsylvania.htm

reo5001 · 02-27-2008, 09:54 PM

haha sad thing is, I start working full time with Sunoco this Aug.

Russo · 02-27-2008, 10:02 PM

funny how porsche wants 80K+ for that carrera 4 or 100k for the 4S and it only has 325-355hp...

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