1M Track Wheel and Tire setup - more rim width and more rubber!

Fundahl · 05-22-2012, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MDORPHN

I'm running 265/35-18 in front and it clears, but just barely.

Neil

So based on that a 265/35/R19 likely would rub?

I have 265/30R19s coming, so we'll see.

Artemis · 05-22-2012, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by eeghie

I've been considering 265 35-19 square setup, so far only harold been able to fit them?

Harold of HP Autoworks reported in September 2011:

"255/35R19 PSS will rub (we have mounted this upgrade on a customer's 1M, 255/35R19 front and 275/35R19 rear PSS) on the exhaust vents of the oil and water cooler first at and near full steering lock before it will rub on the top of the fender liner (this can only happen if you lower your car too much, at stock or 1" lowering there is not enough compression travel for this to happen)."
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showp...4&postcount=16

"As long as the tires are right around the same diameter of the OE you will be okay. We are mostly concerned on diameter on the front with a 255 or 265."
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...0#post11311550

HP Autosport · 05-22-2012, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by eeghie

I've been considering 265 35-19 square setup, so far only harold been able to fit them?

Remember, that is a hoosier slick, not your typical street tire.

Fundahl · 05-23-2012, 10:46 AM

265/30R19 and 295/30R19 in! Gonna drop the car off for mount/balance during lunch in an hour or so!

///M1 · 05-23-2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fundahl

265/30R19 and 295/30R19 in! Gonna drop the car off for mount/balance during lunch in an hour or so!

Verdict?

OrangeCrush · 05-23-2012, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Fundahl

265/30R19 and 295/30R19 in! Gonna drop the car off for mount/balance during lunch in an hour or so!

Yes, we need updates!

Fundahl · 05-24-2012, 11:21 AM

Ok, I'm uploading to photobucket now cause the pics are too big, and I'll make a new thread.

Quick summary:

The rear end grip is just ridiculous. I can dead hook 1st gear from any speed with a WOT smash. I've never felt the car pull that hard before. 2nd just slams you in, no chirping or squirming.

I need a vbox now. I feel I can get a pretty damn good 60' with this setup.

The rears look extremely beefy. They WILL slightly rub (scary sound) on a large bump, or hard acceleration on an uneven surface.

I'm telling you, this thing HOOKS now! I didn't realize the low gears would be so strong feeling with the extra traction.

The fronts are lower profile but wider, so there is a bigger fender gap. Cosmetic turn-off for me. But the car will have coil-overs one day, so no biggie. The fronts BARELY fit when you turn full lock. Basically, the edge of the tire just barely touches the plastic near the vents at full lock. The car tracks a bit more, but feel EXTREMELY planted now. It's almost hard to make the rear end loose, so I probably built in a bit more understeer, but more total overall grip.

These tires are very "beefy" and there is apparent reduction of road noise and bump harshness. Like I said they track or wander more, but I'd like to get the alignment setup too for this setup.

I got this combo basically to improve acceleration ability at autocross and on the street. From my testing so far on the street, it is WAY quicker through 1st and 2nd gear. I even seem to have stopped getting wheelhop. You can feel the clutch just suck the tranny and engine together with a good hook.

Pics and thread coming later!

VO 1M · 05-24-2012, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MDORPHN

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fundahl

Has anyone experimented with a 265/30R19 F, 295/30R19 R combo on the stock wheels yet? In PSS's or otherwise.

I thought about it, but don't like running with that short a sidewall on city streets.

Neil

sidewall difference is not that big (as the tire is 295). The difference is 4.25mm in the back, 6.25mm in the front

HP Autosport · 05-25-2012, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fundahl

265/30R19 and 295/30R19 in! Gonna drop the car off for mount/balance during lunch in an hour or so!

Which tire brand and model did you end up going with?

M3 Adjuster · 05-26-2012, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fundahl

Ok, I'm uploading to photobucket now cause the pics are too big, and I'll make a new thread.

Quick summary:

The rear end grip is just ridiculous. I can dead hook 1st gear from any speed with a WOT smash. I've never felt the car pull that hard before. 2nd just slams you in, no chirping or squirming.

I need a vbox now. I feel I can get a pretty damn good 60' with this setup.

The rears look extremely beefy. They WILL slightly rub (scary sound) on a large bump, or hard acceleration on an uneven surface.

I'm telling you, this thing HOOKS now! I didn't realize the low gears would be so strong feeling with the extra traction.

The fronts are lower profile but wider, so there is a bigger fender gap. Cosmetic turn-off for me. But the car will have coil-overs one day, so no biggie. The fronts BARELY fit when you turn full lock. Basically, the edge of the tire just barely touches the plastic near the vents at full lock. The car tracks a bit more, but feel EXTREMELY planted now. It's almost hard to make the rear end loose, so I probably built in a bit more understeer, but more total overall grip.

These tires are very "beefy" and there is apparent reduction of road noise and bump harshness. Like I said they track or wander more, but I'd like to get the alignment setup too for this setup.

I got this combo basically to improve acceleration ability at autocross and on the street. From my testing so far on the street, it is WAY quicker through 1st and 2nd gear. I even seem to have stopped getting wheelhop. You can feel the clutch just suck the tranny and engine together with a good hook.

Pics and thread coming later!

OVERDUE!!

bdaddylo · 05-26-2012, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

OVERDUE!!

C'mon Fundahl!!! Don't leave us hanging like this.

HP Autosport · 05-26-2012, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bdaddylo

C'mon Fundahl!!! Don't leave us hanging like this.

He is teasing us!

BLACKM · 05-29-2012, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bdaddylo

C'mon Fundahl!!! Don't leave us hanging like this.

We want picccccsssss pls.... Fundah

rad doc · 05-29-2012, 04:42 PM

ARGGHH!! Need updates/pics. Need some new tires badly.

Fundahl · 05-29-2012, 05:12 PM

Pics:

Yes, my car was dirty, and these were taken by phone, so the quality isn't great. But you get the idea.

Yet to autocross with the new setup. Does anyone know of a way to roll the rear fenders even flatter, or perhaps slightly widen them? The sidewalls will barely scrub on hard bumps. Still sounds bad though, and causes noticeable wear on the sidewall/shoulder.

Blue55 · 05-29-2012, 05:35 PM

Do the fronts rub at all?

Fundahl · 05-29-2012, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue55

Do the fronts rub at all?

Nope. Don't like the big gap though. Need suspension. Or a different setup. I'd be willing to grind some material off to fit a 265/35R19.

Fundahl · 05-29-2012, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

Which tire brand and model did you end up going with?

They are Michelin Pilot Super Sports. $1700 set!

BLACKM · 05-29-2012, 08:08 PM

Thx for pics fundahl,

Anyone with 255/30/19 and 275/30/19 setup??

Blue55 · 05-29-2012, 08:36 PM

How is the ride quality compared with stock? Not that ride quality is all that soft to begin with!

rad doc · 05-29-2012, 08:51 PM

I think 255/35 fronts. 255/30 have too small sidewall=bigger fender gap. We know 265/35 rubs. The 255 is just a bit smaller circumference.

For rears maybe 275/35. 275/30 would be significantly smaller circumference.

I really wish the pss came in 285. Thought about doing some p zero or re11 but the pss have such great reviews and better tread life.

Thoughts?

Fundahl · 05-29-2012, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rad doc

I think 255/35 fronts. 255/30 have too small sidewall=bigger fender gap. We know 265/35 rubs. The 255 is just a bit smaller circumference.

For rears maybe 275/35. 275/30 would be significantly smaller circumference.

I really wish the pss came in 285. Thought about doing some p zero or re11 but the pss have such great reviews and better tread life.

Thoughts?

I think 255/35R19 and 285/30R19 would be the best possible combo with zero issues/body modding.

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Fundahl Captain 8 Rep 704 Posts Drives: VO 1M, 300zx TT Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas iTrader: (0)	265/30R19 and 295/30R19 in! Gonna drop the car off for mount/balance during lunch in an hour or so!
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Fundahl Captain 8 Rep 704 Posts Drives: VO 1M, 300zx TT Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas iTrader: (0)	Ok, I'm uploading to photobucket now cause the pics are too big, and I'll make a new thread. Quick summary: The rear end grip is just ridiculous. I can dead hook 1st gear from any speed with a WOT smash. I've never felt the car pull that hard before. 2nd just slams you in, no chirping or squirming. I need a vbox now. I feel I can get a pretty damn good 60' with this setup. The rears look extremely beefy. They WILL slightly rub (scary sound) on a large bump, or hard acceleration on an uneven surface. I'm telling you, this thing HOOKS now! I didn't realize the low gears would be so strong feeling with the extra traction. The fronts are lower profile but wider, so there is a bigger fender gap. Cosmetic turn-off for me. But the car will have coil-overs one day, so no biggie. The fronts BARELY fit when you turn full lock. Basically, the edge of the tire just barely touches the plastic near the vents at full lock. The car tracks a bit more, but feel EXTREMELY planted now. It's almost hard to make the rear end loose, so I probably built in a bit more understeer, but more total overall grip. These tires are very "beefy" and there is apparent reduction of road noise and bump harshness. Like I said they track or wander more, but I'd like to get the alignment setup too for this setup. I got this combo basically to improve acceleration ability at autocross and on the street. From my testing so far on the street, it is WAY quicker through 1st and 2nd gear. I even seem to have stopped getting wheelhop. You can feel the clutch just suck the tranny and engine together with a good hook. Pics and thread coming later!
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rad doc Lieutenant 252 Rep 513 Posts Drives: 1M AW loaded Join Date: May 2011 Location: texas iTrader: (0)	ARGGHH!! Need updates/pics. Need some new tires badly.
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Fundahl Captain 8 Rep 704 Posts Drives: VO 1M, 300zx TT Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas iTrader: (0)	Pics: Yes, my car was dirty, and these were taken by phone, so the quality isn't great. But you get the idea. Yet to autocross with the new setup. Does anyone know of a way to roll the rear fenders even flatter, or perhaps slightly widen them? The sidewalls will barely scrub on hard bumps. Still sounds bad though, and causes noticeable wear on the sidewall/shoulder. Last edited by Fundahl; 05-29-2012 at 05:18 PM..
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BLACKM Enlisted Member 5 Rep 35 Posts Drives: BMW 1M Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: IDN iTrader: (0)	Thx for pics fundahl, Anyone with 255/30/19 and 275/30/19 setup??
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rad doc Lieutenant 252 Rep 513 Posts Drives: 1M AW loaded Join Date: May 2011 Location: texas iTrader: (0)	I think 255/35 fronts. 255/30 have too small sidewall=bigger fender gap. We know 265/35 rubs. The 255 is just a bit smaller circumference. For rears maybe 275/35. 275/30 would be significantly smaller circumference. I really wish the pss came in 285. Thought about doing some p zero or re11 but the pss have such great reviews and better tread life. Thoughts?
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