What tunes are available

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by The Wind Breezes

Hey, I had to give you the benefit of the doubt! Now, is there some joke here I'm missing? Are you embarrassed you paid extra and got less? In lieu of an explanation I'm gonna go with that last one.

Go with what ever you want, troll.

[The Wind Breezes]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Go with what ever you want, troll.

Oh, I'm trolling BIG TIME. Let's recap: the OP asked which tunes are available. When Dinan was brought up I mentioned 2 things:

1) it makes less power than everything out there except PPK
2) it costs a shitload (over $1k)

Anyway, I'm still waiting to hear why you bought Dinan in spite of these 2 disadvantages.

[1traitor]

Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

Do I have to actually click the link for you, that I provided for you?

I'm freaking blind lmao I'm sorry dude

[c1pher]

I too am considering a Dinan. No it doesn't make the most power, but it also doesn't invalidate your warranty either. Just because the other tunes make more power don't necessarily mean they are better for everyone. For me, warranty and longevity/reliability is just as important adding the performance. Dinan is even installed at some BMW dealers like a PPK can be. If Dinan thought they could provide a 400hp tune without sacrificing factory equipment reliability, they would probably do it. So that kind of tells you that the other tunes that make more power you will undoubtedly have to replace and upgrade parts to support the tune.

[1traitor]

Originally Posted by MGM135is

I too am considering a Dinan. No it doesn't make the most power, but it also doesn't invalidate your warranty either. Just because the other tunes make more power don't necessarily mean they are better for everyone. For me, warranty and longevity/reliability is just as important adding the performance. Dinan is even installed at some BMW dealers like a PPK can be. If Dinan thought they could provide a 400hp tune without sacrificing factory equipment reliability, they would probably do it. So that kind of tells you that the other tunes that make more power you will undoubtedly have to replace and upgrade parts to support the tune.

I agree but 1,300 just for a flash tune is so much money it makes it not even worth it for me sadly

[The Wind Breezes]

Originally Posted by MGM135is

warranty and longevity/reliability

Warranty is generally not an issue on other tunes...you uninstall and put the stock tune back on before taking the car in, stealer doesn't care about what they don't know and life goes on.

If your tuner is competent, longevity and reliability depends on maintenance and your use of the car. Unless you're racing the car with r-comps (oil starvation issues) and constantly banging off redline your use of the car will be light enough that any tune by any competent tuner will be fine no matter HOW much you "street race".

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by 1traitor

I agree but 1,300 just for a flash tune is so much money it makes it not even worth it for me sadly

It all depends on your accepted level of risk. The $1300 includes the warranty which none of the other tuners provide. If your motor goes kablooey, it's on you. $1300 isn't that much money when you're talking about a BMW. If the peace of mind and ability to be open about actually having a tune on your car isn't worth it then, yes the alternatives are there.

If I had bought an 08-09 out of warranty and only paid maybe $15k for my 135i, then I'd probably do a JB4 or something like that too. If I mess up the car, I can walk away from it without feeling too bad. I bought a CPO 2013 so maintaining the warranty is important to me.

[1traitor]

Originally Posted by MGM135is

It all depends on your accepted level of risk. The $1300 includes the warranty which none of the other tuners provide. If your motor goes kablooey, it's on you. $1300 isn't that much money when you're talking about a BMW. If the peace of mind and ability to be open about actually having a tune on your car isn't worth it then, yes the alternatives are there.

If I had bought an 08-09 out of warranty and only paid maybe $15k for my 135i, then I'd probably do a JB4 or something like that too. If I mess up the car, I can walk away from it without feeling too bad. I bought a CPO 2013 so maintaining the warranty is important to me.

That's true that's exactly how I bought my 13

[MightyMouseTech]

Originally Posted by The Wind Breezes

Warranty is generally not an issue on other tunes...you uninstall and put the stock tune back on before taking the car in, stealer doesn't care about what they don't know and life goes on.

If your tuner is competent, longevity and reliability depends on maintenance and your use of the car. Unless you're racing the car with r-comps (oil starvation issues) and constantly banging off redline your use of the car will be light enough that any tune by any competent tuner will be fine no matter HOW much you "street race".

If it is flashed back to stock, the dealer can see how many times the PCM has been flashed. Try explaining that to your dealer if you come in with a blown engine.

[Cavpilot2k]

Dinan, while pricey, and more conservative than many tunes, is the only flash available for late model 135s that I am aware of that does not require pulling your ECU and shipping it to a tuner. Also Cobb is not an option for late model 135s.
MHD sounds great, but it is new, unproven, and again, you have to pull the ECU out of your car and ship it to them to bench tune the first time, so you lose your car for several days minimum, unless you happen to be close to an MHD tuner.

If there are other flash tune options that you can drive to a dealer or tuner and have installed, I am all ears.

And yes, a dealership CAN tell how many times your car has been flashed, so if you have a warranty and run into a major issue and they check, they may deny coverage. Most people don't care because warranties are scarce on these cars these days, but I just had my entire transmission replaced under CPO warranty. I shudder to think how much that would have cost out of pocket, so I for one, will be keeping my warranty intact with my Dinan tune (my dealership is the one who installed it, so they won't give me an ounce of hassle about it).

That is why I went with Dinan. Could I have more power if I had wanted my daily driver car to be down for up to two weeks while I sent parts off to be reflashed? Sure. Do I want the hassle? No.

But to each his own. If that doesn't sound like it's for you, well congratulations, you happen to have a different priority set than me (and many other satisfied Dinan customers). That doesn't make you or me smarter, savvier, or in any way better than anyone else, just different.

[blue135]

Hey! I got the badge. What more could one want out of life?

Seriously, i have gone with flash tunes on multiple vehicles. Gives me power and reliability that I am comfortable with.

See I am not as cool or as smart as those who find enjoyment in abusing those who make choices different from theirs.