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I appreciate the exciting news tdc. But I find it hard to believe that a 135i with M sport pack and Brembo brake will still run well over $5K less than a standard 335i. With that kind of pricing gap, a bare bones 128i will end up BELOW $25K.
I do expect BMW to make the M package standard in a 135i, along with other racy things like Brembo. But then it won't be cheap, much like how A3 3.2 S-line is. I would expect it to come in at above $35K with no further options. |
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It's not a matter of whether you believe it or not. That's what it will be, plain and simple.
Standard features on the 135i will be moonroof, M-sport, and Brembos. This is straight from BMW. Pricing is in the range I stated before. I'm simply reiterating what was shown and told to us by BMW officials during the unveiling.
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thank you very much for the info. any word on the diesel?
sorry to instantly bombard you with questions. you're a lucky man, the car sounds incredible. |
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Diesels won't be coming for at least another year. No word on which models will come with them first but I do know it won't be the 5-series. Unfortunate because the 535d's we drove were INCREDIBLE!!
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After all, it will still be much less than the gap between the 3 and the 5. |
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Why do you say that? I think it would be great if the US market embraces diesel.
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06-18-2007, 07:19 AM | #32 |
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35k for a 135 that includes as standard features Brembo brakes,
M-sport, moonroof! I would figure that leather would also be standard. This would be a good deal. You can get into a 3 series coupe (328) base model for apprx. that price. Again, it's apples and oranges to compare the two, but I think that if the price point slightly overlaps between the two coupes... I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear of 3-er owners being pissed at the bargain they missed out on. |
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06-18-2007, 08:40 AM | #33 |
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I'd be on cloud 9 if the 135i came in at that price - almost TGTBT.
Has anyone thought about whether BMW would pull the 328i after introducing the 1er? Perhaps to make the 3er even more premium, if only in badging? Wonder if we'd see the 3er lineup as a 330i and 335i in 2009... Canada also has the 323i, which is about $4,000 less and I'd be floored if the 1er didn't spell the end of that model.... |
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[quote=tdc;3238]... US-spec 135i Coupe ...standard features for the US market...moonroof...
quote] what a shame, can't even avoid a moonroof on their cheapest car, not that the money is so much an issue- i just don't like them mainly for the added weight. i'm really pissed! |
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Because I just think US is the eldorado for people who like gasoline engine:smile: . And if US market becomes 70% diesel, then which manufacturer is going to develop engine like the 3.0 TT if they can't sell it. And also, the main reason why diesel has expand like that in Europe is because diesel fuel is cheaper than gasoline for taxes purpose, and then euro manufacturer have spent millions to develop high tech diesel , money they didn't spend on gas engine. It tends to change now as some manufacturers start developping small gasoline fuel-efficient turbo engine. But it's too late, at least in france, and now it smells bad in the streets and the only engine sound you can hear is 'clac clac clac clac'.
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[quote=hector;3261]No one said you couldn't delete that option.
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But similar to the lip spoiler on the E46 M3, there was a no-cost option to simply delete the lip spoiler if you did not want it on the car. I'm sure they'll provide this as well on the 135i since it's an opportunity to make more money on the car if people opt not to have a sunroof.
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I think the "cheapest car" connotation is precisely what they are trying to avoid (not trying to pick on your choice of words, Hector :biggrin, so I'd imagine we can expect standard features similar to 3-series...
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No matter how wonderful and convincing the arguement for diesel is...it'll always be an emotional turn-off for me. You make a good point about research...I've thought that BMW has come as close as any manufacturer to making a state-of-the-art gasoline fueled internal combustion engine. |
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So tdc, any info on how much a 128i base model will cost? I can't imagine there being less than ~$8K difference between the 135i you described and a base model 128i. Is ~$27K in the right ball park? |
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TDC the main question is does the 135i have a limited slip diff. Just look under it and see if the rear diff has cooling fins on it then it proberly has one.
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