RD vs. WeissLicht

BSM 135i · 11-15-2009, 07:01 PM

i know there are a few threads on what LED angels are the best but i wanted to know what you guys (especially you guys running these brands and not too much from the vendors) think is the best since i've pretty much narrowed my selection to these 2.

SV Concepts III · 11-15-2009, 09:41 PM

Well we replaced the RD with WeissLicht on our E92 and decided to start carrying it place of that brand. Here are some comparisons to show you. I don't have shots on a 1er yet, no time to install

WeissLicht on right, RD on left.

WeissLicht on left, RD on right.

BSM 135i · 11-16-2009, 03:19 PM

Why do the WeissLicht's look a little brighter on the 3 but the rd's look a lot brighter on the 6??

SV Concepts III · 11-16-2009, 03:39 PM

Read carefully, on the 6er, the WL is on the LEFT side of the photo. On the E92, the WL is on the RIGHT side of the photo

jibaholic101 · 11-16-2009, 05:27 PM

why do these lights look so DULL during the day?

SV Concepts III · 11-16-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jibaholic101

why do these lights look so DULL during the day?

It's the nature of the LED and factory fiber optics. There is a tradeoff between brightness and color, you can get brightness with a hyperwhite bulb but not as clean of a color as an LED setup. HID is an option but those tend to be too bright for the housings

BSM 135i · 11-16-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick@Jlevi SW

Read carefully, on the 6er, the WL is on the LEFT side of the photo. On the E92, the WL is on the RIGHT side of the photo

yeah i got that, but the WL's looked a little dimmer compared to the RD's but looking again it's only the inner that looks brighter and the outer looks wayyy dimmer than the WL's.

SV Concepts III · 11-16-2009, 09:17 PM

Right, that's the issue with the RD. The color is an aqua blue and the inner ring is lit well, the outer ring is terrible.

BSM 135i · 11-16-2009, 10:32 PM

thanks for clearing that up Nick, you got PM!

escobar929 · 11-17-2009, 07:48 AM

are they also a plug and play thing? how hard is installation?

SV Concepts III · 11-17-2009, 11:34 AM

Plug and play installation, the hardest part is removing and reinstalling the plastic covers on the back of the headlight. Other than that, it's a simple bulb replacement.

SpacE82 · 11-17-2009, 12:24 PM

how much do the WL cost?

escobar929 · 11-17-2009, 02:59 PM

got mine on the way, thanks nick!

ill post pics of stock vs WL, for you guys!

SV Concepts III · 11-17-2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SpacE82

how much do the WL cost?

They are on our site for $149 for the pair in xenon white, true blue or red.

SV Concepts III · 11-17-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by escobar929

got mine on the way, thanks nick!

ill post pics of stock vs WL, for you guys!

Thanks Jose, tracking sent

SpacE82 · 11-17-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by escobar929

got mine on the way, thanks nick!

ill post pics of stock vs WL, for you guys!

Look forward to it! Hurry hurry!

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Originally Posted by Nick@Jlevi SW

They are on our site for $149 for the pair in xenon white, true blue or red.

Thats not too bad, I'm considering those because the ones that EAS is developing is taking forreevvveerrrr... I also like the look of the Brex, but these WL look good too.. I want something that is White that matches the Xenons.

BSM 135i · 11-17-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SpacE82

Look forward to it! Hurry hurry!

Thats not too bad, I'm considering those because the ones that EAS is developing is taking forreevvveerrrr... I also like the look of the Brex, but these WL look good too.. I want something that is White that matches the Xenons.

+1 on the pics!!! and i'm also considering WL's!!

escobar929 · 11-17-2009, 07:24 PM

yea, they should be here by friday and i take delivery thursday

i didnt mind toftt since my father is getting an e90 335i so if i dont like them, ill just throw them on his car

i was strongly considering the RDash but i didnt like how they didnt light the outer ring that well, at least in pics it did

SpacE82 · 11-17-2009, 09:17 PM

Yeah, I dont like how the outer ring int lit either... I had the EFX. I didnt have any codes, but the outer ring wasnt lit up very much, and you couldnt really see them during the day, so i switched to stock.. plus they were closer to blue than white.. i want something that is more white and lit up during the day

E92-Lighting · 11-18-2009, 10:16 AM

DTEC's are rated at 8Watts, and have "four" LED's. mostly LED's on the market only have "two" LED's. Pure White only. 6500k

SV Concepts III · 11-18-2009, 11:04 AM

The problem here is not the number or power of the LEDs, it's a matter of angle and directing the light. The problem with the RDs is that they did not line up properly with the fiber optics, it was more than powerful enough for the inner ring but the light did not disperse fully into the outer ring. This design allows you to adjust the angle to get it just right.

SpacE82 · 11-18-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick@Jlevi SW

This design allows you to adjust the angle to get it just right.

Your talking about the design of the WL right?

11-15-2009, 07:01 PM	#1
BSM 135i Colonel 208 Rep 2,229 Posts Drives: 08' BSM E82 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cali iTrader: (23)	RD vs. WeissLicht i know there are a few threads on what LED angels are the best but i wanted to know what you guys (especially you guys running these brands and not too much from the vendors) think is the best since i've pretty much narrowed my selection to these 2.
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11-15-2009, 09:41 PM	#2
SV Concepts III Lieutenant General 375 Rep 17,017 Posts Drives: BMW Duh Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Santa Clara iTrader: (13)	Well we replaced the RD with WeissLicht on our E92 and decided to start carrying it place of that brand. Here are some comparisons to show you. I don't have shots on a 1er yet, no time to install WeissLicht on right, RD on left. WeissLicht on left, RD on right.
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11-16-2009, 03:19 PM	#3
BSM 135i Colonel 208 Rep 2,229 Posts Drives: 08' BSM E82 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cali iTrader: (23)	Why do the WeissLicht's look a little brighter on the 3 but the rd's look a lot brighter on the 6??
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11-16-2009, 03:39 PM	#4
SV Concepts III Lieutenant General 375 Rep 17,017 Posts Drives: BMW Duh Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Santa Clara iTrader: (13)	Read carefully, on the 6er, the WL is on the LEFT side of the photo. On the E92, the WL is on the RIGHT side of the photo
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11-16-2009, 05:27 PM	#5
jibaholic101 Brigadier General 162 Rep 3,496 Posts Drives: women wild Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Charleston, SC iTrader: (0)	why do these lights look so DULL during the day? __________________ some italian, german, and japanese ones; and on order more of the same
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11-16-2009, 09:17 PM	#8
SV Concepts III Lieutenant General 375 Rep 17,017 Posts Drives: BMW Duh Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Santa Clara iTrader: (13)	Right, that's the issue with the RD. The color is an aqua blue and the inner ring is lit well, the outer ring is terrible.
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11-16-2009, 10:32 PM	#9
BSM 135i Colonel 208 Rep 2,229 Posts Drives: 08' BSM E82 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cali iTrader: (23)	thanks for clearing that up Nick, you got PM!
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11-17-2009, 07:48 AM	#10
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11-17-2009, 11:34 AM	#11
SV Concepts III Lieutenant General 375 Rep 17,017 Posts Drives: BMW Duh Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Santa Clara iTrader: (13)	Plug and play installation, the hardest part is removing and reinstalling the plastic covers on the back of the headlight. Other than that, it's a simple bulb replacement.
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11-17-2009, 12:24 PM	#12
SpacE82 Major 113 Rep 1,311 Posts Drives: 2009 M-Sport 135i Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 135i [8.50]	how much do the WL cost?
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11-17-2009, 02:59 PM	#13
escobar929 Brigadier General 154 Rep 4,528 Posts Drives: M2 CS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Hollywood, FL iTrader: (14) Garage List 2020 M2 CS [10.00] 2020 M240i [0.00]	got mine on the way, thanks nick! ill post pics of stock vs WL, for you guys!
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escobar929 Brigadier General 154 Rep 4,528 Posts Drives: M2 CS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Hollywood, FL iTrader: (14) Garage List 2020 M2 CS [10.00] 2020 M240i [0.00]	yea, they should be here by friday and i take delivery thursday i didnt mind toftt since my father is getting an e90 335i so if i dont like them, ill just throw them on his car i was strongly considering the RDash but i didnt like how they didnt light the outer ring that well, at least in pics it did
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11-17-2009, 09:17 PM	#19
SpacE82 Major 113 Rep 1,311 Posts Drives: 2009 M-Sport 135i Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 135i [8.50]	Yeah, I dont like how the outer ring int lit either... I had the EFX. I didnt have any codes, but the outer ring wasnt lit up very much, and you couldnt really see them during the day, so i switched to stock.. plus they were closer to blue than white.. i want something that is more white and lit up during the day
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11-18-2009, 10:16 AM	#20
E92-Lighting 860 Rep 35,253 Posts Drives: Next Generation LED Lighting Join Date: May 2008 Location: Walnut iTrader: (324)	DTEC's are rated at 8Watts, and have "four" LED's. mostly LED's on the market only have "two" LED's. Pure White only. 6500k
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11-18-2009, 11:04 AM	#21
SV Concepts III Lieutenant General 375 Rep 17,017 Posts Drives: BMW Duh Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Santa Clara iTrader: (13)	The problem here is not the number or power of the LEDs, it's a matter of angle and directing the light. The problem with the RDs is that they did not line up properly with the fiber optics, it was more than powerful enough for the inner ring but the light did not disperse fully into the outer ring. This design allows you to adjust the angle to get it just right.
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