Suspension setup- camber plate

BoostedBarrett · 01-04-2018, 04:13 PM

I just purchased a 2012 135 M sport that had the Performance suspension added with the M3 front sway bar.

I know that for the track i'll need more negative camber than what limit currently is. Instead of getting the M3 control arms, couldn't I just get the Dinan camber plates which would get me close to -1.7 or a little more Negative camber?

Trying to build this right, and I really am impressed with the Performance suspension.

BimmerAg · 01-04-2018, 05:31 PM

Either is good, both is better!

Winn.Nguyen · 01-04-2018, 06:13 PM

^ Agreed. Both is better!

I am running both with -2 camber on the front.

AndyW · 01-05-2018, 08:14 PM

I did the Dinan Camber Plates and have -2.2 in the front now. If I start chewing up the outside edge of tires next HPDE season, I'll add the M3 bits.

justpete · 01-06-2018, 08:06 PM

The Dinan camber plates reuse the stock upper strut mounts which have a lot of elastomeric slop in them. Sort of defeats the added camber in a way. I ran the Performance suspension without and then with Vorshlag camber plates and they made a big difference in steering responsiveness. They also allow you to adjust caster to full positive for the fastest dynamic camber to help more with turn-in than just a bit of added camber alone.

The M3 front control arms will help make the steering yet a bit more responsive owing to a spherical ball joint being used instead of a bushing in the wishbone and a stiffer bushing in the tension arm. Various manufacturers make sealed spherical bearings for the tension arm so you can get rid of all the slop in the steering with little increase in NVH.

Not the cheapest solution but it is the right way to build the front end.

spxxx · 01-07-2018, 11:20 AM

Go with adjustable camber plates if you plan on tracking and street driving the car... I went Dinan plates + m3 arms to start and was destroying tires from camber wear.

Plus you don't get the solid pillow ball mounts with the Dinan part.

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BimmerAg Lieutenant 425 Rep 545 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: May 2017 Location: San Antonio, TX iTrader: (0)	Either is good, both is better! __________________ 2011 BMW 135i ///M-Sport, DCT Bilstein B12 kit, Dinan camber plates, M3 front control arms, Whiteline poly RSFB, MHD Stage 1, cp-e Charge Pipe, H&R Front sway bar, BMW performance diffuser Last edited by BimmerAg; 01-05-2018 at 09:42 AM..
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Winn.Nguyen Private First Class 85 Rep 137 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Portland iTrader: (0)	^ Agreed. Both is better! I am running both with -2 camber on the front.
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01-05-2018, 08:14 PM	#4
AndyW Supreme Galactic Commander (one galaxy over...) 666 Rep 1,777 Posts Drives: '08 E93, '12 E82, '13 E93 M3 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Washington, USA iTrader: (5)	I did the Dinan Camber Plates and have -2.2 in the front now. If I start chewing up the outside edge of tires next HPDE season, I'll add the M3 bits. __________________ Best, Andy '12 E82-PS2,Stoptechs,Clubsports+M3 bits,Accusump,Wagner DP+EVO III FMIC,ERCP,BMS Intake,Mason Strut Bar,Wedge Tune
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justpete Brigadier General 1232 Rep 3,778 Posts Drives: '11 328i '19 M6 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: DFW iTrader: (0) Garage List 2019 BMW M6 [10.00] 2011 BMW 328i [9.00]	The Dinan camber plates reuse the stock upper strut mounts which have a lot of elastomeric slop in them. Sort of defeats the added camber in a way. I ran the Performance suspension without and then with Vorshlag camber plates and they made a big difference in steering responsiveness. They also allow you to adjust caster to full positive for the fastest dynamic camber to help more with turn-in than just a bit of added camber alone. The M3 front control arms will help make the steering yet a bit more responsive owing to a spherical ball joint being used instead of a bushing in the wishbone and a stiffer bushing in the tension arm. Various manufacturers make sealed spherical bearings for the tension arm so you can get rid of all the slop in the steering with little increase in NVH. Not the cheapest solution but it is the right way to build the front end. __________________ 2011 E90 328i 6MT, BMW Aero, CF hood/boot, PI+CAI+RM+3IM+BPC, SS+CI528+ThermoTec+SS#1+2XBurns, AKG 75D eng/trans, Al/Delrin diff/RS, CM 850, UCP, CAE, AKG DSSR, DiffsOnline 3.91 30/90 LSD+BW cooler, C&R, Setrab, Accusump, AST 3-way+Swift, Aurora PR+BW spherical, Vorshlag CPs, M3 brace+UR bar, ARC-8 18x8.5, 255 R1R, RB/CSL rotors+cooling, 135i calipers, RS29, RT700, Safecraft, OMP HTE-R+804F+QD Superquadro, 6pt cage+FIA, Braille, RT DL1Mk3
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spxxx Boost 1354 Rep 3,691 Posts Drives: 135i M-Sport Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Valley of Silicon, CA - United States iTrader: (9)	Go with adjustable camber plates if you plan on tracking and street driving the car... I went Dinan plates + m3 arms to start and was destroying tires from camber wear. Plus you don't get the solid pillow ball mounts with the Dinan part. __________________ F80 M3 TrackBoi, Z4MC GarageBoi, 1M Clone StreetBoi
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